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The reason the Japanese officer is using a Webley is because Japanese officers during WWII were required to purchase their own weapons. Given the poor quality of Japanese handguns of the time, many chose to buy foreign weapons. -Anonymous

That is a Japanese Type 26 Revolver not a Webley MoviePropMaster2008 18:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

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Japanese Type 26 Revolver - 9mm JR

The T-94 aside, Japanese weapons were not really poor quality during WW2, and particularly would not have been considered so by the Japanese. The reason foreign weapons were popular is that the T-14 was quite large and the Baby Nambu was very expensive, so the cheaper foreign-made pocket pistols were popular for senior officers. - Nyles

I didn't mean all Japanese weapons, just Japanese handguns. The Nambu 14 was not well recieved and there was another pistol frequently issued to tank crews (the name escapes me) that was a full on death trap. A moderate amount of pressure on the side of the reciever would discharge the weapon. I watched a documentary on Japanese small arms of WWII a few years back which spoke well of most Japanese weapon designs but heavily criticized their handguns.

That was the Nambu Type 94. The sear was exposed on the left side of the frame, and enough pressure could possibly set it off, though the reports vary as to how much of a "death trap" the thing actually was. The only really consistent information on it was that it was pretty poorly made.--PistolJunkie 03:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that was the Kenju T-94 (Kijiro Nambu had nothing to do with it), and as I said, that WAS a lousy pistol. That said, the safety locked the sear, so it could actually only fire from pressing on the side if it was cocked and the safety was off. NO single action handgun should be carried cocked and unlocked so it's not quite the big deal it's made out to be. I own a T-14, and while it's not a world-class design, they're well-made and functional. The T-26 is actually very reliable and quite cleverly designed, I wouldn't feel any worse off with it than I would most of it's contemporaries. - Nyles

On the same documentary I mentioned above, the shows firearms expert who demonstrated all the Japanese Weapons fired the gun twice in a row by pressing on the sear. That sounds pretty death "trap-y" to me.

The information that's sketchy is how much force was needed to set them off. Intentionally applying force is different from everyday use. It's still a massive, inexcusable design flaw, but it seems to have been somewhat exaggerated over time. Plus if you put the safety on, it couldn't go off regardless of how much pressure you put on the sear.--PistolJunkie 05:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I call it the Type 94 Shiki Kenju. usually that keeps people from confusing it with a Nambu. ;D MoviePropMaster2008

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 ::That is a Japanese Type 26 Revolver not a Webley [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 [[Image:Type26Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Japanese Type 26 Revolver - 9mm JR]]
+:::The T-94 aside, Japanese weapons were not really poor quality during WW2, and particularly would not have been considered so by the Japanese. The reason foreign weapons were popular is that the T-14 was quite large and the Baby Nambu was very expensive, so the cheaper foreign-made pocket pistols were popular for senior officers. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]
+::::I didn't mean all Japanese weapons, just Japanese handguns. The Nambu 14 was not well recieved and there was another pistol frequently issued to tank crews (the name escapes me) that was a full on death trap. A moderate amount of pressure on the side of the reciever would discharge the weapon. I watched a documentary on Japanese small arms of WWII a few years back which spoke well of most Japanese weapon designs but heavily criticized their handguns.
+:::::That was the Nambu Type 94. The sear was exposed on the left side of the frame, and enough pressure could possibly set it off, though the reports vary as to how much of a "death trap" the thing actually was. The only really consistent information on it was that it was pretty poorly made.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 03:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
+::::Yes, that was the Kenju T-94 (Kijiro Nambu had nothing to do with it), and as I said, that WAS a lousy pistol. That said, the safety locked the sear, so it could actually only fire from pressing on the side if it was cocked and the safety was off. NO single action handgun should be carried cocked and unlocked so it's not quite the big deal it's made out to be. I own a T-14, and while it's not a world-class design, they're well-made and functional. The T-26 is actually very reliable and quite cleverly designed, I wouldn't feel any worse off with it than I would most of it's contemporaries. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]
+::::::On the same documentary I mentioned above, the shows firearms expert who demonstrated all the Japanese Weapons fired the gun twice in a row by pressing on the sear. That sounds pretty death "trap-y" to me.
+:::::::The information that's sketchy is ''how much force'' was needed to set them off. Intentionally applying force is different from everyday use. It's still a massive, inexcusable design flaw, but it seems to have been somewhat exaggerated over time. Plus if you put the safety on, it couldn't go off regardless of how much pressure you put on the sear.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
+:::I call it the Type 94 Shiki Kenju.  usually that keeps people from confusing it with a Nambu. ;D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]

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