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=Additional Images=
==Screen Used==
[[File:WindLion97.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of the actual Winchester 97 "trench brooms" used in [[The Wind and the Lion]]. Courtesy of the NRA National Firearms Museum.]]
[[Image:Mummy-Shotgun1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The screen-used Winchester Model 1897 shotgun used in [[The Mummy]].]]
==Additional Variants==
[[File:1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" with Parkerized finish - 12 gauge]]
[[File:1897 riot gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Winchester1897 bayonet.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" with bayonet - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Winchester 1897 sawed off.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun with sawed off stock and barrel - 12 gauge]]
[[File:Winchester Comparison.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1893 versus 1897 Magazine tube end caps (photos are of ORIGINAL guns, not Chinese replicas or clones)]]
=Discussion=
==Duplicate Images==
==Duplicate Images==


Someone wanna tell me why we have ''two'' pictures of the 'trench gun' configuration of this weapon? Seems rather redundant to me. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:21, 6 July 2011 (CDT)
Someone wanna tell me why we have ''two'' pictures of the 'trench gun' configuration of this weapon? Seems rather redundant to me. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:21, 6 July 2011 (CDT)
:One is blued, while the other is parkerized. But the parkerized version could be moved to the talk page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:35, 6 July 2011 (CDT)
:One is blued, while the other is parkerized. But the parkerized version could be moved to the talk page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 05:35, 6 July 2011 (CDT)
==Variations==
[[Image:1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 Gauge. Parkarized finish]]


== Norinco Model 97W ==
== Norinco Model 97W ==


Does the Chinese clone have a trigger disconnector, or is it also capable of slam-firing? - [[User: 2wingo]]
Does the Chinese clone have a trigger disconnector, or is it also capable of slam-firing? - [[User: 2wingo]]
:While I am here, yes it can be slam fired, even the new guns. I also have a question about this gun though. In the description on the main page it lists the 97W as being a clone of the 1893. However I'm not sure this is true, as there is also a Norinco 93W which has the correct open topped 1893 ejection port rather than the 97W which has the 1897 style closed top ejection port. Can anybody shed any light on this? I ask because there is a shotgun in [[Caprica#Winchester_Model_1897|Caprica]] which is identified as 1897, but has an open topped ejection port and am trying to work out what it would be. I assume it would be a Norinco 93W rather than a genuine 1893, is there any way to tell them apart though? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:37, 17 January 2014 (EST)
I myself  was unsure about buying a Chinese weapon,but my norinco 97T (the trenchgun version) has been reliable. I've owned  it  for  almost a year it has fired every round I've put in it. My only criticism of it is,the trigger and pump extremely  heavy but other than that its a good weapon.

Latest revision as of 05:55, 29 December 2023

Additional Images

Screen Used

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One of the actual Winchester 97 "trench brooms" used in The Wind and the Lion. Courtesy of the NRA National Firearms Museum.
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The screen-used Winchester Model 1897 shotgun used in The Mummy.

Additional Variants

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Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" with Parkerized finish - 12 gauge
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Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun - 12 gauge
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Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" with bayonet - 12 gauge
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Winchester Model 1897 Riot Gun with sawed off stock and barrel - 12 gauge
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Winchester 1893 versus 1897 Magazine tube end caps (photos are of ORIGINAL guns, not Chinese replicas or clones)

Discussion

Duplicate Images

Someone wanna tell me why we have two pictures of the 'trench gun' configuration of this weapon? Seems rather redundant to me. Orca1 9904 02:21, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

One is blued, while the other is parkerized. But the parkerized version could be moved to the talk page. --Predator20 05:35, 6 July 2011 (CDT)

Norinco Model 97W

Does the Chinese clone have a trigger disconnector, or is it also capable of slam-firing? - User: 2wingo

While I am here, yes it can be slam fired, even the new guns. I also have a question about this gun though. In the description on the main page it lists the 97W as being a clone of the 1893. However I'm not sure this is true, as there is also a Norinco 93W which has the correct open topped 1893 ejection port rather than the 97W which has the 1897 style closed top ejection port. Can anybody shed any light on this? I ask because there is a shotgun in Caprica which is identified as 1897, but has an open topped ejection port and am trying to work out what it would be. I assume it would be a Norinco 93W rather than a genuine 1893, is there any way to tell them apart though? --commando552 (talk) 08:37, 17 January 2014 (EST)

I myself was unsure about buying a Chinese weapon,but my norinco 97T (the trenchgun version) has been reliable. I've owned it for almost a year it has fired every round I've put in it. My only criticism of it is,the trigger and pump extremely heavy but other than that its a good weapon.