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=Additional Images= | |||
[[File:SR-25 (Early).jpg|thumb|500px | [[File:SR-25 (Early).jpg|thumb|none|500px|Early version Knight's Armament SR-25 with Harris bipod and 10-round magzine - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[File:M110 ECP Left.jpg|thumb|500px | [[File:M110 ECP Left.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament M110 SASS with Harris bipod, Leupold Mark 4 scope, and tan paint scheme (left side) - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[File: | [[File:SR25-ER-Fixed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 Enhanced Match Rifle, a later variant of the SR-25 fitted with a URX II railed handguard as seen on the M110 SASS - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[File:SR25 | [[File:SR25 Enhanced Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 Enhanced Carbine - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[File:Knights Armament SR25 ECC.jpg|thumb|500px | [[File:Knights Armament SR25 ECC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 Enhanced Combat Carbine - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[ | [[File:SR25 E2 ACC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 E2 Advanced Combat Carbine - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[File:M110K5.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Knight's Armament | [[File:SR-25 APR MLOK.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 Precision Rifle, M-LOK - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[File:M110 K1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament M110K1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
[[File:M110K5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament M110K5 - 7.62x51mm]] | |||
[[File:Gp-aeg041-sr25 1 mark.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Airsoft''' G&P SR-25 SASS with a Magpul PRS buttstock.]] | |||
[[File:Mk 11 Mod 0.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament Mk 11 Mod 0 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
== | =Discussion= | ||
==S110== | |||
Should we makes a page for the new S110 by KA? Or should we add it here on this page? Or is it too new to bother with at all yet? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | Should we makes a page for the new S110 by KA? Or should we add it here on this page? Or is it too new to bother with at all yet? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
=American Sniper= | ==American Sniper== | ||
Am currently reading "American Sniper" by Chris Kyle and, in the book, he gives a less than glowing review of the Mk.11. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:09, 9 February 2012 (CST) | Am currently reading "American Sniper" by Chris Kyle and, in the book, he gives a less than glowing review of the Mk.11. [[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 18:09, 9 February 2012 (CST) | ||
From what I understand, previous reliability issues have been more or less ironed out since Kyle's time and the M110's 2-round burst trigger defect was addressed pretty quickly by KAC. If there were still issues with the platform today, I figure SOCOM wouldn't be ordering 6.5 Creedmoor conversion kits for their SR-25s and would have solicited a whole new rifle instead. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 04:56, 11 August 2020 (EDT) | |||
== XM110 == | == XM110 == | ||
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:Well, maybe it IS an airsoft. Well, thanks for the clarification :) --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 04:30, 12 June 2012 (CDT) | :Well, maybe it IS an airsoft. Well, thanks for the clarification :) --[[User:RaNgeR|RaNgeR]] 04:30, 12 June 2012 (CDT) | ||
::Found it, it is an airsoft made by [http://www.aresairsoft.com/sr25sass.html Ares]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:15, 12 June 2012 (CDT) | ::Found it, it is an airsoft made by [http://www.aresairsoft.com/sr25sass.html Ares]. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 05:15, 12 June 2012 (CDT) | ||
==Forward Assist== | |||
So why exactly does the SR-25 lack a forward assist? Is there some reason it doesn't need one? Is it simply a matter of decreasing costs of an already pricey rifle? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:40, 14 June 2021 (EDT) | |||
:I'd imagine that reducing cost/complexity is part of it, though a major part of it is also that most people agree the forward assist isn't really necessary. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 22:04, 14 June 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I always thought it was a bit odd that they got rid of it on the SR-25, as being a sniper rifle it would benefit from one of the actual uses of a forward assist: being able to quietly close the bolt. This is why the PSG-1 added an AR-15 style forward assist. It also makes it far easier and reliable to do a press check if you have a forward assist. From a malfunction perspective, I believe that generally the forward assist is less usefull on a .308 as the increased weight of the recoiling parts and springs means it is far more likely to go into battery, and if it doesn't you probably have a bigger problem than you should be fighting against. That is part of the reason that a lot of .308 ARs skip it but most .223s keep it. For something intended as a sniper rifle though, I feel like it is a good idea to have one. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:30, 15 June 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::The SR-25 was one of Stoner's last projects, and I believe the lore as we know it states that he was not a proponent of the forward assist.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 18:42, 25 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
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Discussion
S110
Should we makes a page for the new S110 by KA? Or should we add it here on this page? Or is it too new to bother with at all yet? - Gunmaster45
American Sniper
Am currently reading "American Sniper" by Chris Kyle and, in the book, he gives a less than glowing review of the Mk.11. Charon68 18:09, 9 February 2012 (CST)
From what I understand, previous reliability issues have been more or less ironed out since Kyle's time and the M110's 2-round burst trigger defect was addressed pretty quickly by KAC. If there were still issues with the platform today, I figure SOCOM wouldn't be ordering 6.5 Creedmoor conversion kits for their SR-25s and would have solicited a whole new rifle instead. Spartan198 (talk) 04:56, 11 August 2020 (EDT)
XM110
I was gathering some pictures of few weapons and suddenly found this:
The magazine well says "XM110". Is it the real early version of the M110? If so, can it be added to the main page or even to the "Additional Images" section? --RaNgeR 16:14, 11 June 2012 (CDT)
- Is it possible that it is an airsoft? The XM110 is a real gun and was the prototype of the M110. The most visible differences are that the stock adjustment required a tool (no external nob) and the lack of a bolt release on the right side. However, this gun has the bolt release on the right side, so it isn't a genuine XM110. Here is a genuine XM110 undergoing testing, and you can see that it doesn't have the bolt release on the right side. --commando552 17:33, 11 June 2012 (CDT)
- Well, maybe it IS an airsoft. Well, thanks for the clarification :) --RaNgeR 04:30, 12 June 2012 (CDT)
- Found it, it is an airsoft made by Ares. --commando552 05:15, 12 June 2012 (CDT)
Forward Assist
So why exactly does the SR-25 lack a forward assist? Is there some reason it doesn't need one? Is it simply a matter of decreasing costs of an already pricey rifle? Spartan198 (talk) 21:40, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
- I'd imagine that reducing cost/complexity is part of it, though a major part of it is also that most people agree the forward assist isn't really necessary. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 22:04, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
- I always thought it was a bit odd that they got rid of it on the SR-25, as being a sniper rifle it would benefit from one of the actual uses of a forward assist: being able to quietly close the bolt. This is why the PSG-1 added an AR-15 style forward assist. It also makes it far easier and reliable to do a press check if you have a forward assist. From a malfunction perspective, I believe that generally the forward assist is less usefull on a .308 as the increased weight of the recoiling parts and springs means it is far more likely to go into battery, and if it doesn't you probably have a bigger problem than you should be fighting against. That is part of the reason that a lot of .308 ARs skip it but most .223s keep it. For something intended as a sniper rifle though, I feel like it is a good idea to have one. --commando552 (talk) 17:30, 15 June 2021 (EDT)
- The SR-25 was one of Stoner's last projects, and I believe the lore as we know it states that he was not a proponent of the forward assist.--AgentGumby (talk) 18:42, 25 August 2021 (EDT)
- I always thought it was a bit odd that they got rid of it on the SR-25, as being a sniper rifle it would benefit from one of the actual uses of a forward assist: being able to quietly close the bolt. This is why the PSG-1 added an AR-15 style forward assist. It also makes it far easier and reliable to do a press check if you have a forward assist. From a malfunction perspective, I believe that generally the forward assist is less usefull on a .308 as the increased weight of the recoiling parts and springs means it is far more likely to go into battery, and if it doesn't you probably have a bigger problem than you should be fighting against. That is part of the reason that a lot of .308 ARs skip it but most .223s keep it. For something intended as a sniper rifle though, I feel like it is a good idea to have one. --commando552 (talk) 17:30, 15 June 2021 (EDT)