Talk:The X-Files - Season 2: Difference between revisions
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Talk:The X-Files - Season 2: Difference between revisions
[[Image:XF-S2E03-Glock17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Spencer takes cover holding his Glock in "Blood" (S2E03).]]
[[Image:XFiles-S2E06-P228-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Scully reaches for her holstered SIG P228 when Duane Barry breaks into her house during a flashback sequence in "Ascension" (S2E06).]]
[[Image:XF-S2E07-SIGP226.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Agent Mulder picks up his P226 in "3" (S2E07).]]
[[Image:XFilesP228-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Scully wields a [[SIG-Sauer P228]] in "End Game" (S2E17).]]
==Pending ID==
[[Image:XF-S2E13-StuntPistolBHP.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Most certainly a rubber stunt prop but the overall shape and look doesn't match a SIG. (The cap says 'BHP' for Browning Hi Power, but that isn't it either).]]
:You are close with the Hi Power, but pretty sure that it is a Browning BDA. I'm also not 100% sure that it is a rubber stunt gun rather than a real/blank fire replica. If you look at the trigger it has that distinctive forward curving trigger with a very fine point, something that would tend to look much cruder and chunkier on a rubber casting. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:38, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
:: Well at least I wasn't trippin' totally. BDA, yes. It's hard to tell but I agree it looks a bit too on-point for a prop. I don't recall right now if it was fully dropped or just tumbled on the ground, if the latter that might further support your point. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:06, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
Really no better shot of the above gun than these. You can make out an external extractor - that plus it also looks like it has a hooked/recurved trigger guard, makes me think it's a S&W (also looks like Novak sights as well). Early 5906s have popped up throughout this era of the show, I'd say this would be one except it doesn't seem to have the ambi safety. Perhaps an earlier 2nd gen auto.. Thoughts? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:06, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
=Discussion=
==The Smith & Wesson 5904==
==The Smith & Wesson 5904==
Is the Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol used by Duane Barry in S2E05 really a 5904? When [[CCH Pounder]]'s character is talking about the gun, she says it has a "9-round magazine". Granted, that could be a script/dialogue error, but if you look at the first picture of him holding the gun, it seems to have a single-stack frame rather than double-stack, as a 5904 would have. Wouldn't that make it another variant? (not sure which; I checked the Smith & Wesson pistols page and couldn't find a match for that frame/sight/trigger guard style) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 19:00, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
Is the Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol used by Duane Barry in S2E05 really a 5904? When [[CCH Pounder]]'s character is talking about the gun, she says it has a "9-round magazine". Granted, that could be a script/dialogue error, but if you look at the first picture of him holding the gun, it seems to have a single-stack frame rather than double-stack, as a 5904 would have. Wouldn't that make it another variant? (not sure which; I checked the Smith & Wesson pistols page and couldn't find a match for that frame/sight/trigger guard style) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 19:00, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
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:::::I think the one in the episode of ''The Sentinel'' "Nigh Train" is a 3904, but the one in "The Debt" isn't, as the 3904 wasn't around long enough to be produced with the rounded trigger guard. The sights are wrong for a 5904 though, as I think that when they changed the shape of the trigger guard they also changed the design of the fixed sights to the Novak type ones. I imagine that the one in ''Another Stakeout'' is also this gun, as I can't see the hooked trigger guard in either of the caps, and with those sights it is a match for the gun used in the "The Debt" episode of ''The Sentinel''. My guess for this gun would be the budget [[Smith & Wesson 915]], as this has matching frame (actually a double stack, but lacks the lightening machining at the front so looks like a single stack), trigger guard, and is a 3rd gen design so the barrel bushing matches:[[File:S&W915.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson 915 - 9x19mm]]The real clincher would be if there was a clear shot of the right side of the slide as the 3904 has an ambi safety/decocker whilst the 915 doesn't, however with both appearances the only shots showing the right side are too dark/blurry to be 100% sure. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:13, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::I think the one in the episode of ''The Sentinel'' "Nigh Train" is a 3904, but the one in "The Debt" isn't, as the 3904 wasn't around long enough to be produced with the rounded trigger guard. The sights are wrong for a 5904 though, as I think that when they changed the shape of the trigger guard they also changed the design of the fixed sights to the Novak type ones. I imagine that the one in ''Another Stakeout'' is also this gun, as I can't see the hooked trigger guard in either of the caps, and with those sights it is a match for the gun used in the "The Debt" episode of ''The Sentinel''. My guess for this gun would be the budget [[Smith & Wesson 915]], as this has matching frame (actually a double stack, but lacks the lightening machining at the front so looks like a single stack), trigger guard, and is a 3rd gen design so the barrel bushing matches:[[File:S&W915.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson 915 - 9x19mm]]The real clincher would be if there was a clear shot of the right side of the slide as the 3904 has an ambi safety/decocker whilst the 915 doesn't, however with both appearances the only shots showing the right side are too dark/blurry to be 100% sure. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:13, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
A young Fox Mulder uses an unknown revolver in an attempt to defend his sister Samantha from alien abduction during a flashback in "Little Green Men" (S2E01).
[[File:XFiles2X01MulderRevolver.jpg|thumb|none|700px|Mulder's revolver lying on the floor in "Little Green Men" (S2E01).]]
=Original Page Content=
'''The following firearms were used in Season Two of the television series "[[The X-Files]]."
== Pistols ==
=== Colt M1911A1 pistol ===
Seen in the episode "Sleepless" (Episode 2.04).
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|400px|none|World War 2 issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.]]
=== SIG-Sauer P226 ===
In Season 2, Fox Mulder ([[David Duchovny]]) started using a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P226|SIG-Sauer P226]]. This weapon first appeared in the Season 2 premier "Little Green Men", when Mulder tried in vain to shoot an alien with his newly-issued P226 (despite SIGs' "Hell and Back" reliability, firearms do not function when UFOs are around in ''The X-Files''). Following this episode, Mulder carried the P226 for the entirety of the show, with the exception of Season 3, when he and Scully both used [[Smith & Wesson 5906]]s.
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9.19mm, right side]]
[[Image:XFilesP226-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|2.01 "Little Green Men"]]
[[Image:Mulder P226 Props.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mulder's SIG Sauer P226 prop gun and several props]]
=== SIG-Sauer P228 ===
Beginning with Season 2, Dana Scully ([[Gillian Anderson]]) started using a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|SIG-Sauer P228]], which subsequently became her sidearm for the entire show (Season 3 notwithstanding, when she and Mulder both used [[Smith & Wesson 5906]]s). Alex Krycek ([[Nicholas Lea]]), Walter Skinner ([[Mitch Pileggi]]) and some of the other FBI Agents on the show also used the P228. Scully used a P228 from episode 2.03 "Blood" until episode 3.01 "The Blessing Way", and then again from episode 6.01 "The Beginning".
[[Image:XFilesP228-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|2.17 "End Game": Beginning with Season 2, Scully started using a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|SIG-Sauer P228.]]]]
[[Image:XFilesP228-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[Image:Scully P228 Props.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Scully's SIG Sauer P228 prop gun and several props]]
=== SIG-Sauer P229 ===
Mr. X ([[Steven Williams]]) carries a [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P229|SIG-Sauer P229]], identifying it explicitly in episode 2.08 "One Breath" as a "high-capacity compact SIG-Sauer .40-caliber weapon." Although the P229 strongly resembles the [[SIG-Sauer P220 pistol series#SIG P228|SIG-Sauer P228]] carried by Scully and several other characters, the P228 is only available in 9.19mm, not .40-caliber.
===Smith & Wesson 5904===
In the Season 2 episode "Duane Barry", Duane Barry ([[Steve Railsback]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series#Smith & Wesson 5904|Smith & Wesson 5904]] that he took from a guard at the mental institute.
[[Image:S&W-5904-Early-LEFT.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9.19mm]]
In the first episode of Season 2, "Little Green Men", Mulder and Scully were chased away from the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico by a Blue Beret Crash Retrieval Unit. The Blue Berets were armed with a number of weapons that were considered "futuristic" back in the mid-1990s when the episode was made, including a [[Steyr AUG]], a [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M955A|Calico M955A]] with a laser sight, and at least two [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500 Bullpup|Mossberg 500 Bullpup]] shotguns. The leader of the team used another airsoft MP5 (see above).
[[Image:CalicoM955A.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Calico M955A Intermediate length Select fire carbine - 9mm]]
[[Image:XFilesBlueBerets.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Blue Berets firing their assault weapons at Mulder and Scully as they flee the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico. The Berets are armed with (from left to right) Mossberg M500 Bullpups, a Calico M955A, and a Steyr AUG]]
==Rifles==
===M16A1 rifle===
The M16A1 rifle was used on a regular basis throughout ''The X-Files'' as either a military and/or SWAT weapon. For example, M16A1 rifles can be seen in the Season 2 episode "Sleepless" (Episode 2.04).
[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 30 Round magazine - 5.56x45mm]]
==Unknown/Other Bolt-Action Rifles==
Several other bolt-action rifles are seen in Season 2, primarily tactical sniper rifles wielded by police and government officers.
===Steyr AUG===
In the first episode of Season 2, "Little Green Men", Mulder and Scully were chased away from the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico by a Blue Beret Crash Retrieval Unit. The Blue Berets were armed with a number of weapons that were considered "futuristic" back in the mid-1990s when the episode was made, including a [[Steyr AUG]], a [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M955A|Calico M955A]] with a laser sight, and at least two [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500 Bullpup|Mossberg 500 Bullpup]] shotguns. The leader of the team used another airsoft MP5 (see above).
[[Image:Steyr-AUG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Steyr AUG (Austrian Army Version) - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:XFilesBlueBerets.jpg|thumb|none|600px|2.01 "Little Green Men": The Blue Berets firing their assault weapons at Mulder and Scully as they flee the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico. The Berets are armed with (from left to right) Mossberg M500 Bullpups, a Calico M955A, and a Steyr AUG]]
== Shotguns ==
=== Mossberg 500 Bullpup ===
In the first episode of Season 2, "Little Green Men", Mulder and Scully were chased away from the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico by a Blue Beret Crash Retrieval Unit. The Blue Berets were armed with a number of weapons that were considered "futuristic" back in the mid-1990s when the episode was made, including a [[Steyr AUG]], a [[Calico Series of Rifles and Pistols#Calico M955A|Calico M955A]] with a laser sight, and at least two [[Mossberg 500-series shotgun#Mossberg 500 Bullpup|Mossberg 500 Bullpup]] shotguns. The leader of the team used another airsoft MP5 (see above). In addition to this, government agents use the Mosberg 500 Bullpup in many other episodes.
[[Image:XFilesBlueBerets.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Blue Berets firing their assault weapons at Mulder and Scully as they flee the Arecibo radio telescope site in Puerto Rico. The Berets are armed with (from left to right) Mossberg M500 Bullpups, a Calico M955A, and a Steyr AUG]]
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Perhaps Ben can get a better shot of this, meantime I'm pretty sure this revolver (and therefore, the one in the flashback shown in [[The X-Files - Season 4|Season 4]]) is a S&W Model 10. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:11, 7 September 2014 (EDT)
: Appears I was right - Thanks yet again, Ben. I'll move this back to the main page (thanks also to Nototter for posting this up in the first place as well). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 12:39, 8 September 2014 (EDT)
Error creating thumbnail: File missingMost certainly a rubber stunt prop but the overall shape and look doesn't match a SIG. (The cap says 'BHP' for Browning Hi Power, but that isn't it either).
You are close with the Hi Power, but pretty sure that it is a Browning BDA. I'm also not 100% sure that it is a rubber stunt gun rather than a real/blank fire replica. If you look at the trigger it has that distinctive forward curving trigger with a very fine point, something that would tend to look much cruder and chunkier on a rubber casting. --commando552 (talk) 12:38, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
Well at least I wasn't trippin' totally. BDA, yes. It's hard to tell but I agree it looks a bit too on-point for a prop. I don't recall right now if it was fully dropped or just tumbled on the ground, if the latter that might further support your point. StanTheMan (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
Really no better shot of the above gun than these. You can make out an external extractor - that plus it also looks like it has a hooked/recurved trigger guard, makes me think it's a S&W (also looks like Novak sights as well). Early 5906s have popped up throughout this era of the show, I'd say this would be one except it doesn't seem to have the ambi safety. Perhaps an earlier 2nd gen auto.. Thoughts? StanTheMan (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
Discussion
The Smith & Wesson 5904
Is the Smith & Wesson 9mm pistol used by Duane Barry in S2E05 really a 5904? When CCH Pounder's character is talking about the gun, she says it has a "9-round magazine". Granted, that could be a script/dialogue error, but if you look at the first picture of him holding the gun, it seems to have a single-stack frame rather than double-stack, as a 5904 would have. Wouldn't that make it another variant? (not sure which; I checked the Smith & Wesson pistols page and couldn't find a match for that frame/sight/trigger guard style) -MT2008 (talk) 19:00, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
Pretty sure it is a 3904. We so far only have listings for the compact single stack 3rd gen Smiths, but this full length one did briefly exist. It was made from 1988 to 1991, had either 2nd gen type fixed sights or the winged adjustable ones, and there was also the 3906 (stainless version) available. I believe that initially it came with an 8 round magazine, but it was a weird mag that had a load of extra space in it so it could be easily adapted to accept 9 and ones made by other companies held 9 (I think this was due to the fact that the 3rd gen mags were longer, but they just kept to capacity the same to make it a like for like replacement for the 2nd gen single stacks for whatever reason). I think if it was offered today people would want it, but at the time it was in the middle of the wonder-nine craze so there was no demand for it. --commando552 (talk) 19:10, 21 August 2014 (EDT)
Found a decent pic, looks like a match:Error creating thumbnail: File missingSmith & Wesson 3904 - 9x19mm How do you think we should list it? Put it on a page by itself, or create a 3900 series page like the other 3rd gens and role the current 3913 page into this? --commando552 (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2014 (EDT)
Whoa, interesting find here. Makes sense though, as it did look a bit off from a 5904, so thanks, good to be accurate of course. Anyway, I vote for making a 3900 series page as we have done with the other S&W autos. StanTheMan (talk) 22:21, 21 August 2014 (EDT)
Nice job, Commando! That's been bugging me since the page went up. Aside from Another Stakeout, I suspect that gun was also in at least one episode of The Sentinel, which had the same armorers as this show. -MT2008 (talk) 22:37, 21 August 2014 (EDT)
I think the one in the episode of The Sentinel "Nigh Train" is a 3904, but the one in "The Debt" isn't, as the 3904 wasn't around long enough to be produced with the rounded trigger guard. The sights are wrong for a 5904 though, as I think that when they changed the shape of the trigger guard they also changed the design of the fixed sights to the Novak type ones. I imagine that the one in Another Stakeout is also this gun, as I can't see the hooked trigger guard in either of the caps, and with those sights it is a match for the gun used in the "The Debt" episode of The Sentinel. My guess for this gun would be the budget Smith & Wesson 915, as this has matching frame (actually a double stack, but lacks the lightening machining at the front so looks like a single stack), trigger guard, and is a 3rd gen design so the barrel bushing matches:Error creating thumbnail: File missingSmith & Wesson 915 - 9x19mmThe real clincher would be if there was a clear shot of the right side of the slide as the 3904 has an ambi safety/decocker whilst the 915 doesn't, however with both appearances the only shots showing the right side are too dark/blurry to be 100% sure. --commando552 (talk) 11:13, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
Mulder's revolver
A young Fox Mulder uses an unknown revolver in an attempt to defend his sister Samantha from alien abduction during a flashback in "Little Green Men" (S2E01).
Perhaps Ben can get a better shot of this, meantime I'm pretty sure this revolver (and therefore, the one in the flashback shown in Season 4) is a S&W Model 10. StanTheMan (talk) 22:11, 7 September 2014 (EDT)
Appears I was right - Thanks yet again, Ben. I'll move this back to the main page (thanks also to Nototter for posting this up in the first place as well). StanTheMan (talk) 12:39, 8 September 2014 (EDT)
