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::They are percussion, but not necessary rifles. Percussion lock guns of mid-XIX century China were mostly smoothbore. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:06, 4 October 2015 (EDT) | ::They are percussion, but not necessary rifles. Percussion lock guns of mid-XIX century China were mostly smoothbore. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 11:06, 4 October 2015 (EDT) | ||
:::I think, that we should ask users from China or Hong Kong, what guns were used at those period. I did the same in [[Yellow Fangs]]: user from Japan ([[User:KINKI'boy]]) told me, that's [[Murata Rifle]]. The same information I get from [[User:Commando552]]. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:24, 4 October 2015 (EDT) | :::I think, that we should ask users from China or Hong Kong, what guns were used at those period. I did the same in [[Yellow Fangs]]: user from Japan ([[User:KINKI'boy]]) told me, that's [[Murata Rifle]]. The same information I get from [[User:Commando552]]. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:24, 4 October 2015 (EDT) | ||
::::Maybe we're being too theoretical. It seems some rifles appear to be just prop weapons, which is not surprising if apparently 1,000's of actors are using them. Just check below image, the rifle on the left has a solid (!) barrel. - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:42, 5 October 2015 (EDT) | ::::Maybe we're being too theoretical. It seems some rifles appear to be just very crude prop weapons, which is not surprising if apparently 1,000's of actors are using them. Just check below image, both rifles appear to be just a piece of wood with a metal tube on top and the rifle on the left has a solid (!) barrel. - [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 04:42, 5 October 2015 (EDT) | ||
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:::::It's may be right, but some of this rifles are absolutely real guns. Like this: | |||
Maybe chinese filmmakers didn't had so many antique firearms [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 04:58, 6 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
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::::Well,During Taping Rebellion,most of chinese regular forces(Green Standard,Eight Banner) are corrupted,and they all armed with old out dated weapons ,such as white arms,smooth-barrel matchlocks.So the Qing goverment must depend on regional militias like Zeng Guofan's Xiang Army and foreign mercenaries like Ever Victorious Army.At the begging of the Rebellion,most of these regional militias still armed with white arms and matchlocks,later they purchase some modern firearms from merchant,mainly British Pattern 1842 Percussion lock musket,and more advanced Enfield Pattern 1853 rifled-musket.Yes they uses Snider-Enfield too,but that's after the 'Fall of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom'.--[[User:105howitzer|105howitzer]] ([[User talk:105howitzer|talk]]) 05:04, 5 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::Maybe it's [[Enfield Pattern 1853]]? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 04:58, 6 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
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The muskets are not Snider-Enfield, they are too crude, lack military sights and have different stock. They most likely represent a generic view of Far East caplock musket (mostly smoothbore), locally produced in China and Korea. Greg-Z (talk) 10:56, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- Looks like, it's not musket, but percussion cap rifle. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:00, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- They are percussion, but not necessary rifles. Percussion lock guns of mid-XIX century China were mostly smoothbore. Greg-Z (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think, that we should ask users from China or Hong Kong, what guns were used at those period. I did the same in Yellow Fangs: user from Japan (User:KINKI'boy) told me, that's Murata Rifle. The same information I get from User:Commando552. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- Maybe we're being too theoretical. It seems some rifles appear to be just very crude prop weapons, which is not surprising if apparently 1,000's of actors are using them. Just check below image, both rifles appear to be just a piece of wood with a metal tube on top and the rifle on the left has a solid (!) barrel. - PeeWee055 (talk) 04:42, 5 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think, that we should ask users from China or Hong Kong, what guns were used at those period. I did the same in Yellow Fangs: user from Japan (User:KINKI'boy) told me, that's Murata Rifle. The same information I get from User:Commando552. Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:24, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- They are percussion, but not necessary rifles. Percussion lock guns of mid-XIX century China were mostly smoothbore. Greg-Z (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2015 (EDT)
- It's may be right, but some of this rifles are absolutely real guns. Like this:
Maybe chinese filmmakers didn't had so many antique firearms Pyramid Silent (talk) 04:58, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
- Well,During Taping Rebellion,most of chinese regular forces(Green Standard,Eight Banner) are corrupted,and they all armed with old out dated weapons ,such as white arms,smooth-barrel matchlocks.So the Qing goverment must depend on regional militias like Zeng Guofan's Xiang Army and foreign mercenaries like Ever Victorious Army.At the begging of the Rebellion,most of these regional militias still armed with white arms and matchlocks,later they purchase some modern firearms from merchant,mainly British Pattern 1842 Percussion lock musket,and more advanced Enfield Pattern 1853 rifled-musket.Yes they uses Snider-Enfield too,but that's after the 'Fall of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom'.--105howitzer (talk) 05:04, 5 October 2015 (EDT)
- Maybe it's Enfield Pattern 1853? Pyramid Silent (talk) 04:58, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
- Well,During Taping Rebellion,most of chinese regular forces(Green Standard,Eight Banner) are corrupted,and they all armed with old out dated weapons ,such as white arms,smooth-barrel matchlocks.So the Qing goverment must depend on regional militias like Zeng Guofan's Xiang Army and foreign mercenaries like Ever Victorious Army.At the begging of the Rebellion,most of these regional militias still armed with white arms and matchlocks,later they purchase some modern firearms from merchant,mainly British Pattern 1842 Percussion lock musket,and more advanced Enfield Pattern 1853 rifled-musket.Yes they uses Snider-Enfield too,but that's after the 'Fall of the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom'.--105howitzer (talk) 05:04, 5 October 2015 (EDT)