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Saw the movie

Kim used a Walther PPK/S at the end. I also saw some Zastava M70B2s in addition to lots of Norinco Type 84s, which isn't surprising because the armorers in BC have a pretty limited inventory of AK-pattern rifles (Type 84s, M70s, AKS-74Us, and at least a couple AMD-65s). And I am still trying to figure out whether that AK-74M (sadly, the scene in the trailer featuring the gun is its only appearance in the entire movie) is the real deal or not. It definitely had an open front sight and a plastic magazine, so it's not one of the visually modified Type 84s that was in Falling Skies. But the lack of a scope rail on the left side of the receiver (or even mounting pins for the scope rail) suggest to me that it is something other than a real AK-74M. -MT2008 (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)

I just saw the movie myself. There also appear to be several PKMs mounted on North Korean jeeps as the protagonists were escaping from Kim's compound. Also, I think I saw a MP5 fitted with UMP style stock on one of the SEALs/SWCC crew.--Wildcards (talk) 00:51, 28 July 2015 (EDT)

Discussion

Are you sure you want to do this page? I don't want the site to get hacked. --Ben41 (talk) 06:51, 18 December 2014 (EST)

We shouldn't have to live in fear. And if we're going to do a page, it might as well look decent, there was more than enough in the trailer for screenshots. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:14, 18 December 2014 (EST)

Hacked? By whom? Who would hack us for this movie? Excalibur01 (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2014 (EST)

You know, the thing with Sony. Though I think even if they do go after every site that so much as shows images from it we're going to be pretty far down the list. Evil Tim (talk) 02:11, 19 December 2014 (EST)

there is now no plans to release the film, so I would have no problem with not doing this page. --Ben41 (talk) 07:50, 18 December 2014 (EST)

Well, I thought they'd still quietly release it on DVD to recoup some expenses, but I guess that's currently out as well. Sure, let's just archive the page on the talk page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:11, 18 December 2014 (EST)

Why on Earth would anyone hack us? It seems like an exaggerated concern to me. It's not like our page is endorsing any political positions on the hacking, or urging the White House to respond in a particular way. -MT2008 (talk) 10:42, 19 December 2014 (EST)

I wasn't concerned about the hacking stuff, I just didn't think the page was eligible now that the movie has been shelved. If they ever do release it, and I think they probably will, I have no qualms about restoring the page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:47, 19 December 2014 (EST)

I agree we shouldn't worry about hacking honestly, regardless of whether it's likely or not. I think Tim makes a point about how if something does happen, it'd still be unlikely to affect us anyway. Besides, if it were to affect us, simply moving the content to a talk page still on the site wouldn't help I think. That said, it's not like we're doing away with the page or its content, and I think FCM is perfectly valid in regards to the film not being released and that being reason enough to just store the stuff for later. It serves as a precaution of sorts if you wanna look at it that way, but even so, we're not really changing the way we do things, so I don't see it as us 'caving in', as it were. StanTheMan (talk) 13:39, 19 December 2014 (EST)

Release Plans

Just found out that Sony intends to release the film after all: it will be distributed free of charge via their Crackle streaming service. New York Post article. Orca1 9904 (talk) 02:41, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Wait, there's a free online movie/TV streaming service? Like, completely free, always? Not "get a free month then pay a fee" free? Spartan198 (talk) 03:33, 23 December 2014 (EST)

I think Crackle has commercial interruptions. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:55, 23 December 2014 (EST)

I also just heard via CNN that some independent theaters still plan to show the film on Christmas day. Orca1 9904 (talk) 15:08, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Can we get some caps for this before restoring it then? If we're going to stick it to North Korea, we might as well not half-ass it. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:13, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Done and done. Orca1 9904 (talk) 16:45, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Sony is releasing it on VOD a few minutes from now, so potentially, we can have a COMPLETED page by Christmas morning. From potentially not existing to being done in three days, quite a journey. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:21, 24 December 2014 (EST)

A Christmas miracle! Heh. Now I won't punch a stopwatch here but as always I do look forward to seeing a complete page. StanTheMan (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2014 (EST)

Sounds good! Who wants the lead on this one? -MT2008 (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2014 (EST)

I think we should all do this as a team. Excalibur01 (talk) 22:30, 24 December 2014 (EST)

I'm not a huge fan of capping from streaming anymore, seeing how you can't do frame-by-frame (that I know of), and my home connection doesn't really make it feasible. --Funkychinaman (talk) 01:55, 25 December 2014 (EST)

AK-74Ms

I suppose it is moot to talk about the movie's guns in light of recent events and our decision to take down the page, but the "AK-74Ms" in this movie are probably just Norinco Type 84s mocked-up as AK-74Ms. This movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we saw in the last season of Falling Skies, the armorers in BC have recently vismodded some of their Type 84s to resemble AK-74Ms. -MT2008 (talk) 10:36, 19 December 2014 (EST)

I'm pretty certain it's an AK-74M; it appeared to have the distinctive black bakelite 5.45mm magazine, as opposed the the metal 5.56mm mags of the Type 84S, as well as the open front sight. Orca1 9904 (talk) 15:18, 19 December 2014 (EST)

Another random and not necessarily relevant note now that this movie isn't coming out is that the North Koreans don't use Chinese Type 56s since they have their own indigenous AK-47 (Type 58), AKM (Type 68) and AK-74 (Type 88) clones. --Markit (talk) 15:31, 19 December 2014 (EST)

Orca: Is there a trailer showing a better view of the rifles? Not saying you're wrong, just that I hadn't seen one. If there is visual evidence to suggest that they are the real deal AK-74Ms, I stand corrected.

Markit: Actually, the KPA has purchased Russian and Chinese small arms on various occasions, and many of the Soviet-pattern small arms produced by KPA factories now were originally procured before the DPRK developed indigenous production capacity. I also recall reading that the KPA adopted the original Soviet AK-47 and milled-receiver Chinese Type 56 before production on the Type 58 began, though I admit that I cannot recall the source and Googling isn't returning any results. -MT2008 (talk) 16:23, 19 December 2014 (EST)

This trailer has shots of both Type 84S-1 and AK-74M rifles in that order, as well as the RPD LMG later on: The Interview: Meet Sook Orca1 9904 (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)

I really can't tell by that image whether the rifle has a bakelite magazine. As for the front sight, it looks like it might be the open style, but I can't tell if that's an issue of lighting and the front sight is actually hooded. The fact that the rifle does not have the scope rail on the left side of the receiver (which is a standard feature of the AK-74M) is also very suspicious and suggests that even if it's not a vismodded Type 84, it's something other than a factory AK-74M.

Plus, it makes the most sense that the AK-74Ms would be the same mocked-up Type 84s from Falling Skies, given what I know about the inventory of the armorers in BC. -MT2008 (talk) 23:27, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Type 73 LMG

Should this, from the movie's cover, be mentioned too? It seems to be based on this, too: http://digitalpostercollection.com/propaganda/1991-modern-era/north-korea/2010-postcard-from-the-drpk-north-korea-2/

I think it's fairly obvious that it's supposed to be Type 73's in the poster, so I don't see why it shouldn't be included. Good job identifying it, by the way. Orca1 9904 (talk) 23:28, 22 December 2014 (EST)

Unknown MP5 Variant

Could someone identify this MP5 seen being used by SEAL Team 6 members at the end? I'm surprised no one noticed.

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+=Saw the movie=
+Kim used a Walther PPK/S at the end. I also saw some Zastava M70B2s in addition to lots of Norinco Type 84s, which isn't surprising because the armorers in BC have a pretty limited inventory of AK-pattern rifles (Type 84s, M70s, AKS-74Us, and at least a couple AMD-65s). And I am still trying to figure out whether that AK-74M (sadly, the scene in the trailer featuring the gun is its only appearance in the entire movie) is the real deal or not. It definitely had an open front sight and a plastic magazine, so it's not one of the visually modified Type 84s that was in ''[[Falling Skies - Season 4|Falling Skies]]''. But the lack of a scope rail on the left side of the receiver (or even mounting pins for the scope rail) suggest to me that it is something other than a real AK-74M. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 11:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
+::I just saw the movie myself.  There also appear to be several PKMs mounted on North Korean jeeps as the protagonists were escaping from Kim's compound.  Also, I think I saw a MP5 fitted with UMP style stock on one of the SEALs/SWCC crew.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] ([[User talk:Wildcards|talk]]) 00:51, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
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 :: I agree we shouldn't worry about hacking honestly, regardless of whether it's likely or not. I think Tim makes a point about how if something does happen, it'd still be unlikely to affect us anyway. Besides, if it were to affect us, simply moving the content to a talk page still on the site wouldn't help I think. That said, it's not like we're doing away with the page or its content, and I think FCM is perfectly valid in regards to the film not being released and that being reason enough to just store the stuff for later. It serves as a precaution of sorts if you wanna look at it that way, but even so, we're not really changing the way we do things, so I don't see it as us 'caving in', as it were. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:39, 19 December 2014 (EST)
+==Release Plans==
+Just found out that Sony intends to release the film after all: it will be distributed free of charge via their Crackle streaming service. [http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/sony-plans-to-release-the-interview-on-crackle-for-free/ New York Post article.] [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 02:41, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+Wait, there's a ''free'' online movie/TV streaming service? Like, completely free, always? Not "get a free month then pay a fee" free? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 03:33, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+:I think Crackle has commercial interruptions. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:55, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+::I also just heard via CNN that some independent theaters still plan to show the film on Christmas day. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 15:08, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+:::Can we get some caps for this before restoring it then? If we're going to stick it to North Korea, we might as well not half-ass it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:13, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+::::Done and done. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 16:45, 23 December 2014 (EST)
+Sony is releasing it on VOD a few minutes from now, so potentially, we can have a COMPLETED page by Christmas morning. From potentially not existing to being done in three days, quite a journey. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:21, 24 December 2014 (EST)
+: A Christmas miracle! Heh. Now I won't punch a stopwatch here but as always I do look forward to seeing a complete page. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:27, 24 December 2014 (EST)
+:::::Sounds good! Who wants the lead on this one? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 14:43, 24 December 2014 (EST)
+::::::I think we should all do this as a team. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 22:30, 24 December 2014 (EST)
+:::::::I'm not a huge fan of capping from streaming anymore, seeing how you can't do frame-by-frame (that I know of), and my home connection doesn't really make it feasible. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:55, 25 December 2014 (EST)
 ==AK-74Ms==
 I suppose it is moot to talk about the movie's guns in light of recent events and our decision to take down the page, but the "AK-74Ms" in this movie are probably just [[Norinco Type 84]]s mocked-up as AK-74Ms. This movie was filmed in British Columbia, and as we saw in the last season of ''[[Falling Skies - Season 4|Falling Skies]]'', the armorers in BC have recently vismodded some of their Type 84s to resemble AK-74Ms. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 10:36, 19 December 2014 (EST)
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 :I'm pretty certain it's an AK-74M; it appeared to have the distinctive black bakelite 5.45mm magazine, as opposed the the metal 5.56mm mags of the Type 84S, as well as the open front sight. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 15:18, 19 December 2014 (EST)
-=Saving Code=
+::Another random and not necessarily relevant note now that this movie isn't coming out is that the North Koreans don't use Chinese Type 56s since they have their own indigenous AK-47 (Type 58), AKM (Type 68) and AK-74 (Type 88) clones. --[[User:Markit|Markit]] ([[User talk:Markit|talk]]) 15:31, 19 December 2014 (EST)
-'''The following weapons can be seen in the film ''The Interview'':'''
-[[Image:The Interview 2014 poster.jpg|thumb|right|400px|''The Interview'' (TBD)]]
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-==AK-74M==
-In one scene, a North Korean soldier can be seen armed with an [[AK-74M]], aiming it at the protagonists when they meet North Korean Director of Communications Sook ([[Diana Bang]]). This is somewhat inaccurate, as the AK-74M is not used by the military of the DPRK.
-[[Image:AK-74M.jpg|thumb|none|350px|AK-74M 5.45x39mm]]
+:::Orca: Is there a trailer showing a better view of the rifles? Not saying you're wrong, just that I hadn't seen one. If there is visual evidence to suggest that they are the real deal AK-74Ms, I stand corrected.
-==Norinco Type 84S-1==
+:::Markit: Actually, the KPA has purchased Russian and Chinese small arms on various occasions, and many of the Soviet-pattern small arms produced by KPA factories now were originally procured before the DPRK developed indigenous production capacity. I also recall reading that the KPA adopted the original Soviet AK-47 and milled-receiver Chinese Type 56 before production on the Type 58 began, though I admit that I cannot recall the source and Googling isn't returning any results. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 16:23, 19 December 2014 (EST)
-One North Korean soldier can be seen armed with a [[AK-47#Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S-1]], distinguished by the hooded front sight and lightly-curved 5.56mm magazine. While the North Koreans do use the Chinese AK clones, they use the 7.62mm [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]], not the Type 84S.
+::::This trailer has shots of both Type 84S-1 and AK-74M rifles in that order, as well as the RPD LMG later on: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FByVNNys3CU The Interview: Meet Sook] [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 18:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
-[[Image:NorincoType84SFolder.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Norinco Type 84S-1 5.56x45mm]]
+:::::I really can't tell by that image whether the rifle has a bakelite magazine. As for the front sight, it looks like it might be the open style, but I can't tell if that's an issue of lighting and the front sight is actually hooded. The fact that the rifle does not have the scope rail on the left side of the receiver (which is a standard feature of the AK-74M) is also very suspicious and suggests that even if it's not a vismodded Type 84, it's something other than a factory AK-74M.
-==RPD Light Machine Gun==
+:::::Plus, it makes the most sense that the AK-74Ms would be the same mocked-up Type 84s from ''[[Falling Skies - Season 4|Falling Skies]]'', given what I know about the inventory of the armorers in BC. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 23:27, 23 December 2014 (EST)
-In one scene, an [[RPD light machine gun]] can be seen being taken from a hidden compartment and fired on North Korean soldiers by Director of Communications Sook.
+== Type 73 LMG ==
-[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|350px|RPD Light Machine Gun 7.62x54mm R]]
+Should this, from the movie's cover, be mentioned too?
+It seems to be based on this, too:
+http://digitalpostercollection.com/propaganda/1991-modern-era/north-korea/2010-postcard-from-the-drpk-north-korea-2/
-==DShK Heavy Machine Gun==
+:I think it's fairly obvious that it's supposed to be Type 73's in the poster, so I don't see why it shouldn't be included. Good job identifying it, by the way. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] ([[User talk:Orca1 9904|talk]]) 23:28, 22 December 2014 (EST)
-A [[DShK heavy machine gun]] can be seen mounted on a T55 tank that Kim Jong-Un ([[Randall Park]]) shows off to the protagonists. He claims the tank was "a gift from Stalin".
+== Unknown MP5 Variant ==
-[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|DShK Heavy Machine Gun tripod-mounted 12.7x108mm]]
+Could someone identify this MP5 seen being used by SEAL Team 6 members at the end? I'm surprised no one noticed. [[File:TheInterviewMP5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] [[User:Swordimpulse07|Swordimpulse07]] ([[User talk:Swordimpulse07|talk]])

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