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Actually, it was Gilpin who had his leg trapped and destroyed the antenna. Sawyer was manning the Browning with Lever. And Vladek was in guard duty inside mansion, instead of Gilpin. Just thought I'd mention that.--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 11:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | Actually, it was Gilpin who had his leg trapped and destroyed the antenna. Sawyer was manning the Browning with Lever. And Vladek was in guard duty inside mansion, instead of Gilpin. Just thought I'd mention that.--[[User:AlkoTanko|AlkoTanko]] 11:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
Whilst on trivia, the original person having their leg trapped was to have been done by Jiminez (Trini Lopez), but he walked off the film[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC) | Whilst on trivia, the original person having their leg trapped was to have been done by Jiminez (Trini Lopez), but he walked off the film[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 22:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Clarification needed == | |||
Something has been bugging me about this movie for the past twenty years: Did they ever show what happened to Posey? (I know what happened in the book, but the ending of the book is slightly different.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:18, 18 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
*I read an interview with Clint Walker who said he was asked that all the time; he can't recall any death or other scene being filmed. His refusing to do the General sequence led to it being given to Donald Sutherland that really kickstarted his career![[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 17:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT) | |||
::He would've made a better general if they wanted play the scene straight, but I'm glad they went with Sutherland to give the film some levity. So they didn't even FILM a death scene? You can't blame the editors then. Maybe Posey was supposed to live in the original cut? (In the book, only Reisman and Bowren make it out, but Bowren is the only one rescued.) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:59, 8 June 2012 (CDT) | |||
**From what I've read abot the making of the film, MGM bought it before it was published on the basis of its synopsis. Once they got the entire book (I'll be honest and admit I couldn't get through it and had to put it down after a few chapters. I did wish they'd use an idea from the book-Ike postponed all executions until after the Invasion so the Richard Jaeckel MP character was the hangman keeping occupied and reminding the Dozen where they'd go if they failed) they went through a variety of screenplays (Duke Wayne left when they had an original subplot from the novel of Reisman carrying on with an English noblewoman whose husband was fighting in Italy; Duke refused to play a character like that and by the time the screenwriters realised he had a point about the affair slowing the film down he was off with ''The Green Berets''). The original bit was from the book where Posey, a Red Indian in the novel did a dance to ward off the rain for the invasion, the film cut that and decided on the General scene that Walker thought demeaning to a Red Indian (though there doesn't seem to be a mention made of his ethnicity in the final screenplay). I was suprised he died as they set up his character as only killing for a reason, like Chas Bronson shooting a deserter running off with the medical supplies. I heard that Aldrich shot in sequence so when Trini Lopez heeded Sinatra's advice to walk off for more money Aldrich was able to have another character do the scene trapped on the rooftop that was originally meant for Trini. Read an interview with Ernest Borgnine who said he hated doing ensemble films as every actor and their agent demanded rewrites to emphasis their character over the other characters whose agents would do the same...[[User:Foofbun|Foofbun]] 00:23, 9 June 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Beretta 21A Bobcat? == | |||
Hello guys, I'm new to the site and there's something on this page that doesn't seem to make sense to me. I've noticed that Beretta 21a Bobcat is listed here when I think it should be the Beretta 950 Jetfire. I think this because i'm looking at the production dates and the 21a bobcat was manufactured from 1985 to today, yet the movie was made in 1967. Doesn't really make much sense to me. Now I think its a 950 Jetfire bacuse the prodution dates are 1952 to 2003, so it fits the timeframe of when the movie was made. | |||
Latest revision as of 20:33, 28 July 2023
Actually, it was Gilpin who had his leg trapped and destroyed the antenna. Sawyer was manning the Browning with Lever. And Vladek was in guard duty inside mansion, instead of Gilpin. Just thought I'd mention that.--AlkoTanko 11:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC) Whilst on trivia, the original person having their leg trapped was to have been done by Jiminez (Trini Lopez), but he walked off the filmFoofbun 22:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Clarification needed
Something has been bugging me about this movie for the past twenty years: Did they ever show what happened to Posey? (I know what happened in the book, but the ending of the book is slightly different.) --Funkychinaman 22:18, 18 October 2011 (CDT)
- I read an interview with Clint Walker who said he was asked that all the time; he can't recall any death or other scene being filmed. His refusing to do the General sequence led to it being given to Donald Sutherland that really kickstarted his career!Foofbun 17:44, 8 June 2012 (CDT)
- He would've made a better general if they wanted play the scene straight, but I'm glad they went with Sutherland to give the film some levity. So they didn't even FILM a death scene? You can't blame the editors then. Maybe Posey was supposed to live in the original cut? (In the book, only Reisman and Bowren make it out, but Bowren is the only one rescued.) --Funkychinaman 17:59, 8 June 2012 (CDT)
- From what I've read abot the making of the film, MGM bought it before it was published on the basis of its synopsis. Once they got the entire book (I'll be honest and admit I couldn't get through it and had to put it down after a few chapters. I did wish they'd use an idea from the book-Ike postponed all executions until after the Invasion so the Richard Jaeckel MP character was the hangman keeping occupied and reminding the Dozen where they'd go if they failed) they went through a variety of screenplays (Duke Wayne left when they had an original subplot from the novel of Reisman carrying on with an English noblewoman whose husband was fighting in Italy; Duke refused to play a character like that and by the time the screenwriters realised he had a point about the affair slowing the film down he was off with The Green Berets). The original bit was from the book where Posey, a Red Indian in the novel did a dance to ward off the rain for the invasion, the film cut that and decided on the General scene that Walker thought demeaning to a Red Indian (though there doesn't seem to be a mention made of his ethnicity in the final screenplay). I was suprised he died as they set up his character as only killing for a reason, like Chas Bronson shooting a deserter running off with the medical supplies. I heard that Aldrich shot in sequence so when Trini Lopez heeded Sinatra's advice to walk off for more money Aldrich was able to have another character do the scene trapped on the rooftop that was originally meant for Trini. Read an interview with Ernest Borgnine who said he hated doing ensemble films as every actor and their agent demanded rewrites to emphasis their character over the other characters whose agents would do the same...Foofbun 00:23, 9 June 2012 (CDT)
Beretta 21A Bobcat?
Hello guys, I'm new to the site and there's something on this page that doesn't seem to make sense to me. I've noticed that Beretta 21a Bobcat is listed here when I think it should be the Beretta 950 Jetfire. I think this because i'm looking at the production dates and the 21a bobcat was manufactured from 1985 to today, yet the movie was made in 1967. Doesn't really make much sense to me. Now I think its a 950 Jetfire bacuse the prodution dates are 1952 to 2003, so it fits the timeframe of when the movie was made.