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Please help ID the following guns. They are mocked up as futuristic weapons, and the base guns are possibly blank firing or airsoft. | Please help ID the following guns. They are mocked up as futuristic weapons, and the base guns are possibly blank firing or airsoft. | ||
=== | === Mathias's shotgun === | ||
Mathias is armed with a pump action shotgun with pistol grip, AR-15-style carrying handle, weaponlight and saddle shell holder. | |||
[[File:Vychislitel-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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[[File:Vychislitel-19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
:Maybe, it's [[Benelli M4 Super 90]]? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 00:07, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:M4Super90.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Benelli M4 Super 90 with 7-shot tube - 12 gauge]] | |||
::Benelli M4 is semi auto while this shotgun seems to be pump action. You can see that what appear to be the pump is a separate detail, not the part of the stock. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::Sorry, I complitely forgot this moment. Maybe [[Remington 870]] ([[Talk:Remington Model 870#Additional Variants]]? Also, I thought about [[Benelli Supernova]] and [[Heckler & Koch FABARM FP6]] (the last one appears in the ''Okhota na piranyu'', so, at least one movie prop are availible for Russian filmmakers. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 08:10, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[File:SBS4E5REM 870.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Remington 870 with Aimtec Warhammer rail system, FAB Defense stock and pump, MAGPUL Back-Up Sights, and 1st generation Bushnell Holosight - 12 gauge. This is the screen-used gun from ''[[Strike Back - Season 4]]'']] | |||
::::Yes, Rem 870 generally fits the screen gun. I thing it can be used (at least until some better guess would appear :). Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:13, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
=== | === Mathias's pistol === | ||
Mathias also has a pistol. | |||
[[File:Vychislitel-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Polar Wolf holds the pistol.]] | [[File:Vychislitel-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Polar Wolf holds the pistol.]] | ||
:Maybe [[Stechkin APS]]? Or (crazy guess, but still possible) [[Type 94 pistol]]? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:15, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Nambu Type 94.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Japanese Type 94 "Shiki Kenju" Pistol - 8x22mm Nambu]] | |||
[[File:SZTECSKIN.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Stechkin APS - 9x18mm Makarov. This is the screen used pistol carried by Leonid ([[Mihai Arsene]]) in ''[[Strike Back - Season 4]]''.]] | |||
::I'm fairly sure it's a decked out APS. -[[User:SeptemberJack|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack|talk]]) 16:06, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::Thanks! Airsoft '''Gletcher APS-A''' seems to be a good base for this fictional gun. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
=== | === Mathias's Tranquilizer pistol === | ||
Mathias also has a Tranquilizer pistol. | |||
[[File:Vychislitel-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
Maybe [[Olympic Arms OA-93]] with a short magazine? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:24, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Oa-93-full.jpg|thumb|none|400px|OA-93 - 5.56x45mm]] | |||
:Hardly. Note the hole in the part that resembles the "magazine well". And the grip is very different. This must be some airsoft gun, I guess, as it is cheap, and simple to be dressed in futuristic manner. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
=== Assault Rifle === | === Assault Rifle === | ||
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[[File:Vychislitel-20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jebe with the rifle.]] | [[File:Vychislitel-20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jebe with the rifle.]] | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:Vychislitel-23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
:Maybe [[Barrett M82A1M]] or [[Barrett M82A1]] with sawn-off barrel and removed bipod? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:19, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[File:Barrett M82A1M.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Barrett M82A1M - .50 BMG]] | |||
[[Image:M82a1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Barrett M82A1 - .50 BMG]] | |||
::This is a M82A1. The stock is just like the one on the M82A1. | |||
:::Yes, you are right. Damn, sawing-off the barrel of so nice rifle is a very disgusting doing... (In Russia, such guns known as "obrez", that means "cut" or "sawn-off"). [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:40, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::Lol. Does the M82A1 not have a barrel to be removed when disassembled? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 17:27, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::::So, the barrel is just removed, not sawed-off? But, if the barrel was complitely removed, the gun absolutely can't fired. Only if the part of the barrel still exist, the gun maybe used as firearm. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 17:32, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::::Thanks! The gun doesn't fire in the movie, but even if it would be seen firing, it can be CGI muzzle flame. Airsoft versions of Barrett M82A1 are produced by various manufacturers and widely available. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
=== Long guns in armory === | === Long guns in armory === | ||
[[File:Vychislitel-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|1 - HK417 ?, 2 and 3 - revolvers, 4 - AK/AMK, 5 - pump action shotgun, 6 - unknown long gun (the barrel resembles SVD?)]] | [[File:Vychislitel-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|1 - HK417 ?, 2 and 3 - revolvers, 4 - AK/AMK, 5 - pump action shotgun, 6 - unknown long gun (the barrel resembles SVD?)]] | ||
:The shotgun (5) isn't used by Mathias later? About 6< maybe it's SVD, due the foregen made rifles have much less chanses to appearing in Russian movie, so, SVD maybe more availible. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 00:11, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
::Yes, 5 is Mathias' shotgun. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::Maybe, the 6 is SVD or (most likely) it's Commercial "Tiger Carbine". It's also can be [[FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle]], but the first one are is widely availible in Russia than foregen made rifles. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 08:30, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:SVD-TigerCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Commercial "Tiger Carbine" (aka "Dragunov Tiger") version sold in the US, with synthetic furnishings used on domestic SVD-M modernized variant - 7.62x54mm R. More recent Tiger versions have a completely smooth receiver cover.]] | |||
=== Revolvers in armory === | === Revolvers in armory === | ||
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- [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:07, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | - [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:07, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | ||
:Maybe both are [[Smith & Wesson Model 686]] or [[Smith & Wesson Model 500]] (due it's the only two common usable revolvers with a so long barrel)? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:36, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Smith&Wesson686 8inchbarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 686 8" Barrel, Pachmayr grips - .357 Magnum]] | |||
[[Image:Magnum 50cal 500.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Smith & Wesson Model 500 (8.75" Barrel) - .500 S&W Magnum]] | |||
::After more close inspection, I think, that's Model 500, due the screen gun is 5 rounded (if it's not a visual illusion). [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 23:59, 14 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::I cannot think if the revolver is 5-shot. But again, it is 99.9% airsoft gun, like Tanaka S&W M500. 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::: It's not a Model 500. It's pretty large but the frame and especially cylinder is nowhere near big enough for a 500. That said, looks a bit too big for a .357 gun. I'd say this is a S&W Model 629 Classic (full underlug). It is also available with an 8 3/8" barrel. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:14, 15 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 20:05, 28 July 2023
Please help ID
Please help ID the following guns. They are mocked up as futuristic weapons, and the base guns are possibly blank firing or airsoft.
Mathias's shotgun
Mathias is armed with a pump action shotgun with pistol grip, AR-15-style carrying handle, weaponlight and saddle shell holder.
- Maybe, it's Benelli M4 Super 90? Pyramid Silent (talk) 00:07, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Benelli M4 is semi auto while this shotgun seems to be pump action. You can see that what appear to be the pump is a separate detail, not the part of the stock. Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Sorry, I complitely forgot this moment. Maybe Remington 870 (Talk:Remington Model 870#Additional Variants? Also, I thought about Benelli Supernova and Heckler & Koch FABARM FP6 (the last one appears in the Okhota na piranyu, so, at least one movie prop are availible for Russian filmmakers. Pyramid Silent (talk) 08:10, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Benelli M4 is semi auto while this shotgun seems to be pump action. You can see that what appear to be the pump is a separate detail, not the part of the stock. Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
Mathias's pistol
Mathias also has a pistol.
- Maybe Stechkin APS? Or (crazy guess, but still possible) Type 94 pistol? Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:15, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- I'm fairly sure it's a decked out APS. -SeptemberJack (talk) 16:06, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
Mathias's Tranquilizer pistol
Mathias also has a Tranquilizer pistol.
Maybe Olympic Arms OA-93 with a short magazine? Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:24, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- Hardly. Note the hole in the part that resembles the "magazine well". And the grip is very different. This must be some airsoft gun, I guess, as it is cheap, and simple to be dressed in futuristic manner. Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
Assault Rifle
Several soldiers are armed with some king of assault rifles.
- Maybe Barrett M82A1M or Barrett M82A1 with sawn-off barrel and removed bipod? Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:19, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- This is a M82A1. The stock is just like the one on the M82A1.
- Yes, you are right. Damn, sawing-off the barrel of so nice rifle is a very disgusting doing... (In Russia, such guns known as "obrez", that means "cut" or "sawn-off"). Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:40, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- Lol. Does the M82A1 not have a barrel to be removed when disassembled? --Slon95 (talk) 17:27, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- So, the barrel is just removed, not sawed-off? But, if the barrel was complitely removed, the gun absolutely can't fired. Only if the part of the barrel still exist, the gun maybe used as firearm. Pyramid Silent (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- Lol. Does the M82A1 not have a barrel to be removed when disassembled? --Slon95 (talk) 17:27, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- Yes, you are right. Damn, sawing-off the barrel of so nice rifle is a very disgusting doing... (In Russia, such guns known as "obrez", that means "cut" or "sawn-off"). Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:40, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- This is a M82A1. The stock is just like the one on the M82A1.
Long guns in armory
- The shotgun (5) isn't used by Mathias later? About 6< maybe it's SVD, due the foregen made rifles have much less chanses to appearing in Russian movie, so, SVD maybe more availible. Pyramid Silent (talk) 00:11, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Yes, 5 is Mathias' shotgun. Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Maybe, the 6 is SVD or (most likely) it's Commercial "Tiger Carbine". It's also can be FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle, but the first one are is widely availible in Russia than foregen made rifles. Pyramid Silent (talk) 08:30, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- Yes, 5 is Mathias' shotgun. Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
Revolvers in armory
- Greg-Z (talk) 08:07, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- Maybe both are Smith & Wesson Model 686 or Smith & Wesson Model 500 (due it's the only two common usable revolvers with a so long barrel)? Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- After more close inspection, I think, that's Model 500, due the screen gun is 5 rounded (if it's not a visual illusion). Pyramid Silent (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
- I cannot think if the revolver is 5-shot. But again, it is 99.9% airsoft gun, like Tanaka S&W M500. 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- It's not a Model 500. It's pretty large but the frame and especially cylinder is nowhere near big enough for a 500. That said, looks a bit too big for a .357 gun. I'd say this is a S&W Model 629 Classic (full underlug). It is also available with an 8 3/8" barrel. StanTheMan (talk) 14:14, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- I cannot think if the revolver is 5-shot. But again, it is 99.9% airsoft gun, like Tanaka S&W M500. 07:12, 15 August 2017 (EDT)
- After more close inspection, I think, that's Model 500, due the screen gun is 5 rounded (if it's not a visual illusion). Pyramid Silent (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2017 (EDT)