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There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST) | |||
I checked again, but these are really the only "clean" shots of the rifle I could get (very few steady shots and for a strange reason, most of the time it's of the left side of the rifle). Plus, you don't get to see the attackers and the rifles until late in the movie. FYI, it is only one sniper rifle, for one of the attackers. Here is another screencap of the gun, it seems to be a paddle style bolt all the way. I also joined three close-ups: one of the trigger guard, one of the muzzle break, and a last one of the cartridge belt. | |||
PS: my remark wasn't meant to be mocking, but your point is duly noted for next time. -- [[User:Sebastian2A|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A|talk]]) 15:15, 31 January 2015 (EST)[[User:Sebastian2A|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A|talk]]) | |||
[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-06.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Close-up of the trigger guard.]] | |||
[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Close-up of the muzzle break.]] | |||
[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-08.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Close-up of the cartridge belt.]] | |||
[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first attacker holding the rifle.]] | [[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first attacker holding the rifle.]] | ||
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[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | [[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | ||
:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:92FS_Brigadier_pistol.jpg | |||
:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST) | |||
The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- [[User:Sebastian2A|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A|talk]]) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)([[User talk:Sebastian2A|talk]]) | |||
==try to limit potentially Mocking comments== | |||
We should point out cheap or airsoft optics on films, but never make comments that seem to mock the decision. Movie productions are harsh and super expensive optics are usually only used on 'hero closeups' in major motion pictures. Actors are notorious for breaking or roughhandling of props, so most armorers give actors the cheapest scopes they can, anticipating them to be broken or damaged during filming.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 14:03, 31 January 2015 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:20, 11 July 2023
Please help ID
There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)
I checked again, but these are really the only "clean" shots of the rifle I could get (very few steady shots and for a strange reason, most of the time it's of the left side of the rifle). Plus, you don't get to see the attackers and the rifles until late in the movie. FYI, it is only one sniper rifle, for one of the attackers. Here is another screencap of the gun, it seems to be a paddle style bolt all the way. I also joined three close-ups: one of the trigger guard, one of the muzzle break, and a last one of the cartridge belt.
PS: my remark wasn't meant to be mocking, but your point is duly noted for next time. -- Sebastian2A (talk) 15:15, 31 January 2015 (EST)Sebastian2A (talk)
Beretta?
The Beretta's grip appears to be too big? Is it a replica? --Ben41 (talk) 20:52, 30 January 2015 (EST)
- Could be a Beretta 96. Hi, My Name Is GameZone (talk) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:92FS_Brigadier_pistol.jpg
- This Beretta's pistol is Beretta 92FS Brigadier? --KINKI'boy (talk) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)
The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- Sebastian2A (talk) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)(talk)
try to limit potentially Mocking comments
We should point out cheap or airsoft optics on films, but never make comments that seem to mock the decision. Movie productions are harsh and super expensive optics are usually only used on 'hero closeups' in major motion pictures. Actors are notorious for breaking or roughhandling of props, so most armorers give actors the cheapest scopes they can, anticipating them to be broken or damaged during filming.MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 14:03, 31 January 2015 (EST)