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=Additional Images= | |||
[[File: | [[File:FAL 50-42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|FN FAL 50.42 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[File: | [[File:L2A1 Bipod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|L2A1 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[File: | [[File:IA2 556 lb.jpg|thumb|none|500px|IMBEL IA2, early version with long barrel - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[File:DSA SA58 with 18'' barrel.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DSA SA58 with 18" barrel - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
[[Image:DSA-58OSW.jpg|thumb|none|500px|DSA SA58 OSW with EOTech holosight and Sure Fire M900A Vertical Foregrip WeaponLight - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
==Photoshopped== | |||
[[File:L1A1 Wild Geese custom.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Photoshopped''' Custom shortened L1A1 SLR (Self Loading Rifle) as used in ''[[The Wild Geese]]'' - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | |||
[[File:Imbelia2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Photoshopped mock-up of IMBEL IA2 sniper rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO. This image was made by the Small Arms Illustrated project.]] | |||
[[File:IA2-5.56mm-CQC.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Photoshopped mock-up of IMBEL IA2 CQC prototype with 265mm barrel - 5.56x45mm NATO. This image was made by the Small Arms Illustrated project.]] | |||
[[File:SC-2010.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SC-2010HPMWS with RIS foregrip and M68 Aimpoint red dot scope - 7.62x51mm NATO. This is a photoshopped official image from Diseños Casanave.]] | |||
==Airsoft Variants== | |||
[[File:King Arms L1A1 railed receiver.jpeg|thumb|none|500px|King Arms L1A1 AEG with railed receiver.]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
== What is a 50.50 == | == What is a 50.50 == | ||
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http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Assault_Girls This help?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 17:57, 8 February 2012 (CST) | http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Assault_Girls This help?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 17:57, 8 February 2012 (CST) | ||
== LAR question == | |||
Well it may be idiotic... but which is the country of origin of the '''LAR'''? Is Belgium like the FAL or another country? --[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 10:28, 25 April 2017 (EDT) | |||
: The LAR is just the alternate name of the original version of the Belgian FAL. Right off the start of the describing paragraph: "The FN FAL (Fusil Automatique Léger) was designed by Dieudonné Saive and Ernest Vervier from 1947 to 1951. It is also called the FN LAR (Light Automatic Rifle), the English translation of its Belgian French name." [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:47, 25 April 2017 (EDT) | |||
Well thanks just feels weird that are called differently despite beign same thing. Why?--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 14:08, 25 April 2017 (EDT) | |||
PS : Even this site have some wrongness like the Bushmaster M17S described as American istead of Australian... | |||
:They used the English name when they marketed it to other non French speaking countries, but it didn't catch on and most people just called it by the original French name. Similarly, I believe that the FALO was originally marketed to foreign countries as the LAR HB but again, people preferred the original French name. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:49, 25 April 2017 (EDT) | |||
== FAL in 7th Dawn, 1964 == | |||
FALs appear, in the hands of British (Commonwealth?) troops in 7th Dawn, a 1964 film about colonial problems in Malaya/Malasia, in 1945-1954. I noticed them in a scene in which soldiers are torching a village, and wondered if the FAL's appearance was anachronistic, in a film set in that time period? --[[User:RickB|RickB]] ([[User talk:RickB|talk]]) 13:17, 16 February 2022 (EST) | |||
: Almost completely so, yes. The original FAL didn't start manufacture until '53, with the L1A1 coming into production/service a year later. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:57, 16 February 2022 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 23:54, 18 October 2022
Additional Images
Photoshopped
Airsoft Variants
Discussion
What is a 50.50
On the page for District 9 it lists the specific FAL variant as a 50.50. This is not mentioned on this page, and I can't seem to find it online. Is this a misprint, or if not does anyone have any more information about it?--Commando552 00:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- It is a mistype on the section title - The title is meant to read FAL 50-00, which it states so on the gun thumbnail. I've changed it, however I have to say I think the gun is actually an LAR, not a FAL 50-00. StanTheMan 03:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Actually it's only HALF of a FAL, thus the 50/50 remark! LOL! mpm
- And Stan the man is right. It looks to be a FAL Light Automatic Rifle, not a 50.00 MoviePropMaster2008
- Actually it's only HALF of a FAL, thus the 50/50 remark! LOL! mpm
- Thanks guys, wondered why I had no idea what the hell it was. I actually think that it is one of the early South African R1s that were Belgian made. Here is a pic of one for reference: http://www.saaaca.org.za/links/SIG/fal/PDC_0057.jpg. Commando552 15:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Looks like we have a winner! Thanks! Now I have to replace the original LAR fore arm furniture and put the 50.00 forearm on it and 'build up' an R1 look a like for that page. Arghhh. The work never ends ;) MoviePropMaster2008 17:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Doomed you are, Mastah! ;D StanTheMan 17:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
FAL and FNC
Based on their apparent similarities, are some components (specifically, stocks) interchangable between the FN FNC and FN FAL? For example, could one attach a FAL 50.00 stock to an FNC? MrOshimida27 19:30, 28 March 2011 (CDT)
LAR/Romat parts swapping.
I found this particular gun in Ultimate Force and it seems to have the hand-guard of a Romat, but the barrel and flash hider of an LAR. Is it more likely (or even possible) that this is an LAR with Romat hand-guard, or LAR with Romat barrel? Can all FAL variants (assuming they are both metric/imperial) swap parts with one another? In the same episode, what appears to be a gun with the hand-guard of an LAR but the barrel of a Romat is also seen, suggesting they traded parts for some reason. --commando552 16:07, 4 April 2011 (CDT)
Grenade launcher attachment
Is there some FN FAL paratrooper model with grenade launcher attachment? I suspect that it is used by Colonel in "Assault Girls". Tomas 14:28, 13 June 2011 (CDT)
- Might be wrong, as I am only going from the glimpses shown in the youtube trailer, but it looks like the FAL is fitted with a RIS handguard. If that is the case, it is relatively simple to attach a M203, CM203 or Airsoft replica (most likely in this case from the very unrealistic firing effects). Even if not RIS, a regular FAL can be fitted with an M203PI EGLM via use of an interbar mount. Film where similar mounts can be seen are The Postman and Escape from L.A.. Although not relevant for this case as it is clearly an M203 type launcher, interesting tid bit is that the Australians used FAL variants fitted with xm148s during Vietnam. --commando552 17:04, 13 June 2011 (CDT)
- I built the FAL's used in Escape from L.A. and The Postman when I was at Ellis Mercantile. I also machined the Cobray 203 mounts and made the flash hider/BFA for them.--phoenixent 12:26, 24 March 2012 (CDT)
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Assault_Girls This help?--Mandolin 17:57, 8 February 2012 (CST)
LAR question
Well it may be idiotic... but which is the country of origin of the LAR? Is Belgium like the FAL or another country? --Dannyguns (talk) 10:28, 25 April 2017 (EDT)
- The LAR is just the alternate name of the original version of the Belgian FAL. Right off the start of the describing paragraph: "The FN FAL (Fusil Automatique Léger) was designed by Dieudonné Saive and Ernest Vervier from 1947 to 1951. It is also called the FN LAR (Light Automatic Rifle), the English translation of its Belgian French name." StanTheMan (talk) 13:47, 25 April 2017 (EDT)
Well thanks just feels weird that are called differently despite beign same thing. Why?--Dannyguns (talk) 14:08, 25 April 2017 (EDT) PS : Even this site have some wrongness like the Bushmaster M17S described as American istead of Australian...
- They used the English name when they marketed it to other non French speaking countries, but it didn't catch on and most people just called it by the original French name. Similarly, I believe that the FALO was originally marketed to foreign countries as the LAR HB but again, people preferred the original French name. --commando552 (talk) 16:49, 25 April 2017 (EDT)
FAL in 7th Dawn, 1964
FALs appear, in the hands of British (Commonwealth?) troops in 7th Dawn, a 1964 film about colonial problems in Malaya/Malasia, in 1945-1954. I noticed them in a scene in which soldiers are torching a village, and wondered if the FAL's appearance was anachronistic, in a film set in that time period? --RickB (talk) 13:17, 16 February 2022 (EST)
- Almost completely so, yes. The original FAL didn't start manufacture until '53, with the L1A1 coming into production/service a year later. StanTheMan (talk) 22:57, 16 February 2022 (EST)