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'''''¡Ay, Carmela!''''' (internationally released under the original title, with or without the inverted exclamation mark in the beginning) is a 1990 Spanish drama directed by Carlos Saura and based on the theater play by Jose Sanchis Sinisterra. The plot depicts the story of a trio of travelling vaudeville performers during the Spanish Civil War - singer and dancer Carmela (Carmen Maura), her husband, comedian Paulino (Andrés Pajares) and their mute assistant Gustavete (Gabino Diego). The trio gives performances for the Republican troops but | '''''¡Ay, Carmela!''''' (internationally released under the original title, with or without the inverted exclamation mark in the beginning) is a 1990 Spanish drama directed by Carlos Saura and based on the theater play by Jose Sanchis Sinisterra. The plot depicts the story of a trio of travelling vaudeville performers during the Spanish Civil War - singer and dancer Carmela (Carmen Maura), her husband, comedian Paulino (Andrés Pajares), and their mute assistant Gustavete (Gabino Diego). The trio gives performances for the Republican troops but are captured by Nationalist forces after inadvertently entering Nationalist-controlled territory. The price of their life and freedom is a show that mocks the Republic. Paulino readily agrees, but for Carmela, it would be a betrayal of ideals. | ||
The film was the winner of the 1990 Goya Awards in 13 | The film was the winner of the 1990 Goya Awards in 13 categories, including Best Film, Best Director, Best Actor, and Best Actress. | ||
{{Film Title|¡Ay, Carmela!}} | {{Film Title|¡Ay, Carmela!}} | ||
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= Pistols = | = Pistols = | ||
== Astra 600 == | == Astra 600 == | ||
A Nationalist artillery Captain ([[José Sancho]]) in charge of the unit that | A Nationalist artillery Captain ([[José Sancho]]) in charge of the unit that detains the performers carries an [[Astra 600]] pistol. In the final scene, a Nationalist officer draws and fires an Astra 600 pistol. | ||
[[Image:Astra-600-Leftside.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Astra 600 - 9x19mm.]] | [[Image:Astra-600-Leftside.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Astra 600 - 9x19mm.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Astra-1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Astra-1a.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
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= Submachine Guns = | = Submachine Guns = | ||
== Bergmann MP35/I == | == Bergmann MP35/I == | ||
Nationalist ''Cabo'' (Corporal rank) Cardoso (Emilio del Valle) carries a [[Bergmann MP35/I]] submachine gun. | A Nationalist ''Cabo'' (Corporal rank) Cardoso (Emilio del Valle) carries a [[Bergmann MP35/I]] submachine gun. | ||
[[Image:MP35a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bergmann MP35/I right side - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:MP35a.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bergmann MP35/I right side - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP35-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The ''Cabo'' carries the MP35.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP35-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The ''Cabo'' carries the MP35.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP35-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of the submachine gun.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP35-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of the submachine gun.]] | ||
== | == "Naranjero" == | ||
An Italian soldier | An Italian soldier who escorts the performers carries a "Naranjero", a Spanish-made copy of the [[Haenel MP28/II]] submachine gun chambered in 9x23mm Largo. | ||
[[File:mp28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Haenel MP28/II - 9x19mm]] | [[File:mp28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Haenel MP28/II - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Italian soldier carries the | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Italian soldier carries the Naranjero.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The buttstock is seen.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The buttstock is seen.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The | [[File:Ay Carmela-MP28-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Naranjero on a table.]] | ||
= Rifles = | = Rifles = | ||
== Spanish Mauser M1893 == | == Spanish Mauser M1893 == | ||
Many Republicans and Nationalists are armed with [[Spanish Mauser M1893]] rifles. Some rifles | Many Republicans and Nationalists are armed with [[Spanish Mauser M1893]] rifles. Some rifles used by Nationalist soldiers are fitted with Modelo 1913 bayonets that were adopted for M1916 short rifles (the bayonet Modelo 1893 for the M93 rifle has a 10-inch blade while the Modelo 1913 has a 15.6-inch blade). | ||
[[Image:Spanish1893Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|400px|1893 Spanish Mauser - 7x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Spanish1893Mauser.jpg|thumb|none|400px|1893 Spanish Mauser - 7x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Several of the Republicans | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Several of the Republicans watching the performance hold Mauser M1893 rifles. The rifle in the hands of a female soldier at the left lacks the cleaning rod.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closer view of the barrel of Mauser M1893 in the same scene.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One more rifle in hands of a Republican.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One more rifle in the hands of a Republican.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Paulino (Andrés Pajares) holds a Mauser M1893 during the performance. The same scene is seen on the film poster, with the rifle in full size.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Paulino (Andrés Pajares) holds a Mauser M1893 during the performance. The same scene is seen on the film poster, with the rifle in full size.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nationalist soldier at the right carries a Mauser M1893 with M1913 bayonet.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Nationalist soldier at the right carries a Mauser M1893 with M1913 bayonet.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers with M1893 rifles with bayonets escort arrested performers. The straight bolt handle is seen.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers with M1893 rifles with bayonets escort the arrested performers. The straight bolt handle is seen.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist soldiers with M1893 rifles.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist soldiers with M1893 rifles.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Requeté'' (member of Navarrese royalist militant | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Requeté'' (member of a Navarrese royalist militant organization), wearing a signature red beret, holds an M1893 rifle.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Requeté'' escorts arrested Communist mayor of the town.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Requeté'' escorts an arrested Communist mayor of the town.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist soldiers escort Republican POWs, soldiers of the International | [[File:Ay Carmela-Mauser93-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist soldiers escort Republican POWs, soldiers of the International Brigades. The grip of a M1913 bayonet is seen.]] | ||
== Garate El Tigre == | == Garate El Tigre == | ||
Several [[Garate El Tigre]] lever action rifles are seen in hands of Republicans. | Several [[Garate El Tigre]] lever action rifles are seen in the hands of Republicans. | ||
[[Image:garate_el_tigre.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Garate El Tigre - .44-40 WCF]] | [[Image:garate_el_tigre.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Garate El Tigre - .44-40 WCF]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-ElTigre-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A female Republican holds an El Tirge rifle.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-ElTigre-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A female Republican holds an El Tirge rifle.]] | ||
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== Double Barreled Shotgun == | == Double Barreled Shotgun == | ||
Some Republicans are armed with [[Double Barreled Shotgun]]s. | Some Republicans are armed with [[Double Barreled Shotgun]]s. | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the Republicans | [[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One of the Republicans watching Carmela's dance holds a double barreled shotgun.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Republican with a shotgun in the same scene.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another Republican with a shotgun in the same scene.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Republicans brandish their guns, greeting Carmela. A double barreled shotgun is seen in center.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun2-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Republicans brandish their guns, greeting Carmela. A double barreled shotgun is seen in center.]] | ||
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== Single Barreled Shotgun == | == Single Barreled Shotgun == | ||
Some Republicans are armed with [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]s. | Some Republicans are armed with [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]s. | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A single barreled shotgun (or maybe a small caliber hunting rifle) is seen in hands of a Republican.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Shotgun1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A single barreled shotgun (or maybe a small caliber hunting rifle) is seen in the hands of a Republican.]] | ||
= Machine Guns = | = Machine Guns = | ||
== Maxim MG08 == | == Maxim MG08 == | ||
A Republican [[Maxim MG08]] is seen during the opening | A Republican [[Maxim MG08]] is seen during the opening credits. | ||
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on ''Schlittenlafette'' 08 mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on ''Schlittenlafette'' 08 mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MG08-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An MG08 on position.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MG08-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An MG08 on position.]] | ||
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A [[Maxim M1910]] or [[Maxim M1910/30|M1910/30]] is seen in the Republican barracks. | A [[Maxim M1910]] or [[Maxim M1910/30|M1910/30]] is seen in the Republican barracks. | ||
[[Image:Maxim1910.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim M1910 with 'Sokolov' wheel mount, w/o shield - 7.62x54mmR]] | [[Image:Maxim1910.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim M1910 with 'Sokolov' wheel mount, w/o shield - 7.62x54mmR]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Maxim-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Maxim on Sokolov mount is seen near the door.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Maxim-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Maxim on a Sokolov mount is seen near the door.]] | ||
== Hotchkiss Mle 1914 == | == Hotchkiss Mle 1914 == | ||
A ''Tiznao'' armored car is armed with a [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914]] machine gun in the turret (the Spanish version of Hotchkiss is known as Modelo 24). In one scene ''Requetés'' carry a Hotchkiss. | A ''Tiznao'' armored car is armed with a [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914]] machine gun in the turret (the Spanish version of the Hotchkiss is known as the Modelo 24). In one scene, ''Requetés'' carry a Hotchkiss. | ||
[[File:M1914Hotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hotchkiss M1914 with tripod - 8x50mmR Lebel / 7.92x57mm Mauser / 11mm Gras]] | [[File:M1914Hotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hotchkiss M1914 with tripod - 8x50mmR Lebel / 7.92x57mm Mauser / 11mm Gras]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Tiznao-1A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hotchkiss is mounted on the ''Tiznao'' armored car.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Tiznao-1A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Hotchkiss is mounted on the ''Tiznao'' armored car.]] | ||
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== Hotchkiss M1922 == | == Hotchkiss M1922 == | ||
One of the Republicans | One of the Republicans watching the show in the opening scene holds a light machine gun. Only the large conical flash hider on the barrel is seen. Judging by the position of the front sight at the base of the flash hider, the machine gun can be identified as a [[Hotchkiss M1922]]. Among the machine guns that were used in the Spanish Civil War, a similar conical flash hider can also be seen on the [[Degtyaryov DP-27]] and [[Breda Modello 30]], but both have differently placed front sights. | ||
[[File:HotchkissM1922mag-fed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hotchkiss M1922 magazine-fed version. The locally produced Spanish model was chambered in 7x57mm Mauser.]] | [[File:HotchkissM1922mag-fed.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Hotchkiss M1922 magazine-fed version. The locally produced Spanish model was chambered in 7x57mm Mauser.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-MachineGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The barrel with the flash hider is seen. The front sight is located at the base of the flash hider.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-MachineGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The barrel with the flash hider is seen. The front sight is located at the base of the flash hider.]] | ||
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= Trivia = | = Trivia = | ||
== ''Tiznao'' armored car == | == ''Tiznao'' armored car == | ||
A replica of ''Tiznao'' armored car of Republican troops is seen in the opening scene (''Tiznao'' is a general term for improvised armored trucks and buses of the Spanish Civil War). It is fitted with a turret | A replica of a ''Tiznao'' armored car of Republican troops is seen in the opening scene (''Tiznao'' is a general term for improvised armored trucks and buses of the Spanish Civil War). It is fitted with a turret containing a [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914]] machine gun. | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Tiznao-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-Tiznao-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
== T-26 == | == T-26 == | ||
A Nationalist T-26 tank is seen in the recently taken town. More then 280 T-26s were supplied to Spanish Republic from USSR, and many of them were captured by Nationalists during the late part of the war. The tank is a T-26 mod. 1933, armed with a | A Nationalist T-26 tank is seen in the recently taken town. More then 280 T-26s were supplied to the Spanish Republic from the USSR, and many of them were captured by Nationalists during the late part of the war. The tank is a T-26 mod. 1933, armed with a 45mm 20-K main gun and a [[Degtyaryov DT]] machine gun. The surviving tanks in post-war Spain had their DTs replaced with Hotchkiss machine guns, so the screen vehicle is most likely one of many T-26s preserved in Spanish museums and may also be armed with a Hotchkiss. | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-T26-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A T-26 is seen on the street.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-T26-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A T-26 is seen on the street.]] | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-T26-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A frontal view of the T-26. The coaxial machine gun is seen but it's impossible to identify the model: DT, Hotchkiss or even a mere mockup.]] | [[File:Ay Carmela-T26-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A frontal view of the T-26. The coaxial machine gun is seen, but it's impossible to identify the model: DT, Hotchkiss, or even a mere mockup.]] | ||
== Artillery == | == Artillery == | ||
[[File:Ay Carmela-Artillery-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist artillery on march in the misty morning. The artillery piece is a field gun about | [[File:Ay Carmela-Artillery-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Nationalist artillery on march in the misty morning. The artillery piece is a field gun about 75mm in caliber.]] | ||
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¡Ay, Carmela! (internationally released under the original title, with or without the inverted exclamation mark in the beginning) is a 1990 Spanish drama directed by Carlos Saura and based on the theater play by Jose Sanchis Sinisterra. The plot depicts the story of a trio of travelling vaudeville performers during the Spanish Civil War - singer and dancer Carmela (Carmen Maura), her husband, comedian Paulino (Andrés Pajares), and their mute assistant Gustavete (Gabino Diego). The trio gives performances for the Republican troops but are captured by Nationalist forces after inadvertently entering Nationalist-controlled territory. The price of their life and freedom is a show that mocks the Republic. Paulino readily agrees, but for Carmela, it would be a betrayal of ideals.
The film was the winner of the 1990 Goya Awards in 13 categories, including Best Film, Best Director, Best Actor, and Best Actress.
The following weapons were used in the film ¡Ay, Carmela!:
Pistols
Astra 600
A Nationalist artillery Captain (José Sancho) in charge of the unit that detains the performers carries an Astra 600 pistol. In the final scene, a Nationalist officer draws and fires an Astra 600 pistol.
Star Model B
A Nationalist artillery Alférez (Ensign rank) (Antonio Fuentes) carries a Star Model B pistol. A Star pistol is also seen in hands of a Nationalist official who chooses Republican POWs for execution.
Beretta M1934
Italian Teniente (Lt.) Ripamonte (Mauricio De Razza) and some other officers and NCOs carry Beretta M1934 pistols in holsters.
Submachine Guns
Bergmann MP35/I
A Nationalist Cabo (Corporal rank) Cardoso (Emilio del Valle) carries a Bergmann MP35/I submachine gun.
"Naranjero"
An Italian soldier who escorts the performers carries a "Naranjero", a Spanish-made copy of the Haenel MP28/II submachine gun chambered in 9x23mm Largo.
Rifles
Spanish Mauser M1893
Many Republicans and Nationalists are armed with Spanish Mauser M1893 rifles. Some rifles used by Nationalist soldiers are fitted with Modelo 1913 bayonets that were adopted for M1916 short rifles (the bayonet Modelo 1893 for the M93 rifle has a 10-inch blade while the Modelo 1913 has a 15.6-inch blade).
Garate El Tigre
Several Garate El Tigre lever action rifles are seen in the hands of Republicans.
Shotguns
Double Barreled Shotgun
Some Republicans are armed with Double Barreled Shotguns.
Single Barreled Shotgun
Some Republicans are armed with Single Barreled Shotguns.
Machine Guns
Maxim MG08
A Republican Maxim MG08 is seen during the opening credits.
Maxim M1910 or M1910/30
A Maxim M1910 or M1910/30 is seen in the Republican barracks.
Hotchkiss Mle 1914
A Tiznao armored car is armed with a Hotchkiss Mle 1914 machine gun in the turret (the Spanish version of the Hotchkiss is known as the Modelo 24). In one scene, Requetés carry a Hotchkiss.
Hotchkiss M1922
One of the Republicans watching the show in the opening scene holds a light machine gun. Only the large conical flash hider on the barrel is seen. Judging by the position of the front sight at the base of the flash hider, the machine gun can be identified as a Hotchkiss M1922. Among the machine guns that were used in the Spanish Civil War, a similar conical flash hider can also be seen on the Degtyaryov DP-27 and Breda Modello 30, but both have differently placed front sights.
Trivia
Tiznao armored car
A replica of a Tiznao armored car of Republican troops is seen in the opening scene (Tiznao is a general term for improvised armored trucks and buses of the Spanish Civil War). It is fitted with a turret containing a Hotchkiss Mle 1914 machine gun.
T-26
A Nationalist T-26 tank is seen in the recently taken town. More then 280 T-26s were supplied to the Spanish Republic from the USSR, and many of them were captured by Nationalists during the late part of the war. The tank is a T-26 mod. 1933, armed with a 45mm 20-K main gun and a Degtyaryov DT machine gun. The surviving tanks in post-war Spain had their DTs replaced with Hotchkiss machine guns, so the screen vehicle is most likely one of many T-26s preserved in Spanish museums and may also be armed with a Hotchkiss.
