Talk:Black Widow (2021): Difference between revisions
Talk:Black Widow (2021): Difference between revisions - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Talk:Black Widow (2021): Difference between revisions
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another soldier with the Beryl in his hands goes towards the lieutenant. Note the special metal stock and front sight.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another soldier with the Beryl in his hands goes towards the lieutenant. Note the special metal stock and front sight.]]
===To Be Sorted===
==="Gulag Fight"===
[[File:BW 363.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In a deleted scene, Ross' operatives draw their [[Glock 17]] pistols on Black Widow.]]
An extended scene of Red Guardian fighting in the Seventh Circle Prison. Alexei squares up against several enemies and is quickly overpowered. When all hope seems lost, Natasha leaps in to lend a hand in the fight.
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[[File:BW Deleted Scene 7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Seventh Circle Prison guards carries an [[AKS-74]] on his back in the background during the fight.]]
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[[File:BW Assembled 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
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[[File:BW Deleted Scene 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
===Kid's Toy Bow===
==="Smile"===
One of the children plays with a toy bow when Natasha returns to Ohio in the film's finale. This scene has been cut and replaced with a scene in which Natasha receives a Quinjet from Rick.
The Taskmaster protocol is activated in a tense moment, and an iconic helmet is unveiled.
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A child plays with his bow in Ohio.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Red Room operative with a [[HS Produkt VHS-K2]] in his hands stands at the entrance to the Taskmaster's training hall.]]
==="Ohio"===
Romanoff witnesses the carefree nature of the Ohio suburbs through the neighborhood children.
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A child plays with a toy bow in Ohio.]]
==="It Was All Me"===
An extended scene of the ending, showing Natasha Romanoff surrendering to Thaddeus Ross and his men. As Ross's SUV drives away, he and Romanoff have a conversation as she is picking her handcuffs. When he looks away, she manages to escape the car.
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ross's agents get out of the SUV. The driver is armed with a [[Glock 17]] pistol, the agent behind him with a [[Heckler & Koch HK416]], and the agent on the left with an unidentified weapon.]]
[[File:BW 356.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers with an obsolete [[AK-47]] and [[AK-74M]] aim at the surrendering Natasha. In the background, you can also see American soldiers with [[M4A1]] and [[Browning M2]] machine guns.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US Army soldier holds what appears to be a [[M249]] machine gun in the hatch of a Humvee.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The soldier on the far left holds a [[M249]] machine gun while the others carry Antonia into the car.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[M4A1]] is hanging from the belt of one of the soldiers, who lifts Taskmaster into the car. The second one has a [[Glock 17]] in a holster.]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ross's agent with a [[Heckler & Koch MP7A1]] (Jacinte Blankenship) leads Natasha into the van. ]]
[[File:BW Assembled 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''Behind the scenes'']]
[[File:BW Assembled 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|''Behind the scenes'']]
==Weapons from Official Merchandise==
==Weapons from Official Merchandise==
===SIG-Sauer P320 RX Full Size===
===SIG-Sauer P320 RX Compact===
[[File:P320 RX Full Size.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P320 RX Full Size with proprietary ROMEO1 reflex sight - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BW Deleted Scene 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deleted shot]]
=Discussion=
=Discussion=
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:I'm pretty sure the first rifle is a modernized [[FÉG NGM-81|FÉG NGM]], similar to the one used in some movies like [[Angel Has Fallen]]. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 11:26, 24 November 2021 (EST)
:I'm pretty sure the first rifle is a modernized [[FÉG NGM-81|FÉG NGM]], similar to the one used in some movies like [[Angel Has Fallen]]. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 11:26, 24 November 2021 (EST)
::Yes, it looks so similar that it probably is. The fact that this rare gun has already been seen in modern Hollywood only confirms the model. I think we can consider the issue closed, thank you for your help. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 11:56, 24 November 2021 (EST)
::Yes, it looks so similar that it probably is. The fact that this rare gun has already been seen in modern Hollywood only confirms the model. I think we can consider the issue closed, thank you for your help. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 11:56, 24 November 2021 (EST)
:::The shotgun on the gun wall is a Mossberg 590 Crusier as identified by the magazine end cap and bayonet lug on the magazine tube. - MrJDK9412 (talk 21:22, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
== About the HS Produkt VHS-K2 ==
== About the HS Produkt VHS-K2 ==
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:Oh OK [[User:Wolf1998|Wolf1998]] ([[User talk:Wolf1998|talk]]) 9:05, 3 February 2022 (PDT)
:Oh OK [[User:Wolf1998|Wolf1998]] ([[User talk:Wolf1998|talk]]) 9:05, 3 February 2022 (PDT)
== Natasha's guns are Glock 26s but also not Glock 26s ==
Watching Black Widow again on my Marvel Cinematic Universe movie (and TV Series) montage stream, I can safety confirm that Natasha's guns acquired after Budapest are Glock 43 pistols instead of her usual Glock 26s. While she does indeed use a Glock 26 during her fight with Taskmaster in Norway, the new guns given by Rick Mason from there on till the ending of the movie are Glock 43s, as they appear much more slimmer and smaller than the boxy and wider Glock 26. The slide, frame and profile all confirm so. - MrJDK9412 (talk 15:39, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
See for yourself of Natasha and her guns from Avengers to Black Widow
[[File:Avengers 414.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Natasha and her dual Glocks 26s in Avengers.]]
[[File:BW 72.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Natasha holds her Glock 26 in Black Widow.]]
[[File:BW 162.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nat with her Glock 43 in Black Widow.]]
[[File:BW 163.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nat with her Glock 43 and not a Glock 26 she usually carries.]]
[[File:BW 165.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Black Widow's Glock 43 as seen close up.]]
:Yes! I knew that something was wrong with this glock, but I forgot about the slim one. Thanks for your help. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 03:45, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
::No worries mate! I saw just how thin the gun was and knew immediately it was the Glock 43. It's all actually fun adding and learning all variants of guns :) - MrJDK9412 (talk 23:02, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
An extended scene of Red Guardian fighting in the Seventh Circle Prison. Alexei squares up against several enemies and is quickly overpowered. When all hope seems lost, Natasha leaps in to lend a hand in the fight.
An extended scene of the ending, showing Natasha Romanoff surrendering to Thaddeus Ross and his men. As Ross's SUV drives away, he and Romanoff have a conversation as she is picking her handcuffs. When he looks away, she manages to escape the car.
I'm more inclined to think they simply didn't have enough AK-74s to go around. Spartan198 (talk) 14:07, 13 March 2020 (EDT)
Snubnose Revolver
That looks like a two tone Charter Arms .38 like an Undercover or some other model with a blued frame and stainless cylinder and barrel. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 14:42, 10 July 2021 (EDT)
I'm not so sure. Firstly, assuming the shot is not flipped the cylider goes in the wrong direction. Secondly, the shape of the rear of the cylinder flutes looks more squared off and less tapered than on a typical revolver. My guess would be a Kimber K6s CDP. Error creating thumbnail: File missingKimber K6s CDP - .357 Magnum --commando552 (talk) 18:21, 10 July 2021 (EDT)
Hmm, I remember exactly that the trigger guard immediately seemed to me straight (like on Kimber). I increased the brightness and flipped the image, and now I agree with Commando552. However, I have a small question. Isn't the Kimber a modern revolver? The actions in this scene took place in 1995, and if I'm not confusing anything, the revolver appeared much later. It turns out this is anachronism. Pustelga7 (talk) 01:46, 11 July 2021 (EDT)
SIG-Sauer Pistol
I'm not completely sure which specific model it is: P220, P228 or something else? Pustelga7 (talk) 08:55, 12 July 2021 (EDT)
I'd say P226. It has a double stack step so not a P220, and looks a little long in the front to be a P228 so that leaves the P226. --commando552 (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2021 (EDT)
Hey. I need help identifying several guns. The first is an 5,56 AK derivative with railed handguard and telescopic stock (number 1), the second is a shotgun, the barrel and magazine of which are seen from below (I think its Mossberg like this, but check this too, number 2), and the last is an unknown gun on the wall to the left (number 3). Few ideas about what it seems to be like an Brügger & Thomet APC9 PRO G, but I also had thoughts about the MP5 derivative, due to the similar shape of the butt.
I'm pretty sure the first rifle is a modernized FÉG NGM, similar to the one used in some movies like Angel Has Fallen. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 11:26, 24 November 2021 (EST)
Yes, it looks so similar that it probably is. The fact that this rare gun has already been seen in modern Hollywood only confirms the model. I think we can consider the issue closed, thank you for your help. Pustelga7 (talk) 11:56, 24 November 2021 (EST)
The shotgun on the gun wall is a Mossberg 590 Crusier as identified by the magazine end cap and bayonet lug on the magazine tube. - MrJDK9412 (talk 21:22, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
About the HS Produkt VHS-K2
It said that the Black Widow operatives use HS Produkt VHS-K2 but it does not appear to be in the rifle section. Wolf1998 (talk) 8:05, 3 February 2022 (PDT)
Because I haven't added it yet Pustelga7 (talk) 11:43, 3 February 2022 (EST)
Natasha's guns are Glock 26s but also not Glock 26s
Watching Black Widow again on my Marvel Cinematic Universe movie (and TV Series) montage stream, I can safety confirm that Natasha's guns acquired after Budapest are Glock 43 pistols instead of her usual Glock 26s. While she does indeed use a Glock 26 during her fight with Taskmaster in Norway, the new guns given by Rick Mason from there on till the ending of the movie are Glock 43s, as they appear much more slimmer and smaller than the boxy and wider Glock 26. The slide, frame and profile all confirm so. - MrJDK9412 (talk 15:39, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
See for yourself of Natasha and her guns from Avengers to Black Widow
Yes! I knew that something was wrong with this glock, but I forgot about the slim one. Thanks for your help. Pustelga7 (talk) 03:45, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
No worries mate! I saw just how thin the gun was and knew immediately it was the Glock 43. It's all actually fun adding and learning all variants of guns :) - MrJDK9412 (talk 23:02, 25 April 2022 (AEST)
