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This pics are just place holders until better shots of the weapons can be found. Thanks (MPM2008) | This pics are just place holders until better shots of the weapons can be found. Thanks (MPM2008) | ||
=Name== | ==Just a question== | ||
Why there's nothing about Iron Man and Iron Monger's own, armor-mounted arsenals ? Iron Man used flight stablizers as his primary firearm through the film and also he used rocket launchers, mounted on his shoulders in [[RoboCop]] style scene. There was also custom flamethrower on his very first armor. I forget, what was actually used by Iron Monger, but something was mounted on it's armor, i remember. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 08:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Name== | |||
:We should refer to them by their actual name - the Ten Rings, not as "Taliban". Even though the Ten Rings is obviously supposed to be a Taliban-like jihadist group, they're still not the Taliban proper. | :We should refer to them by their actual name - the Ten Rings, not as "Taliban". Even though the Ten Rings is obviously supposed to be a Taliban-like jihadist group, they're still not the Taliban proper. | ||
Wrong! the ten rings is a fictional chinese founded ultra rationaist group, they take their names from the iron man villain the mandarin who weilds the ten rings of power, this name is a tip of the hat to an enemy we may see by the 3rd movie - captain snikt | Wrong! the ten rings is a fictional chinese founded ultra rationaist group, they take their names from the iron man villain the mandarin who weilds the ten rings of power, this name is a tip of the hat to an enemy we may see by the 3rd movie - captain snikt | ||
** Looks like you were correct. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] 00:05, 7 June 2012 (CDT) | |||
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thanks for the explain I don't really know much about tanks | thanks for the explain I don't really know much about tanks | ||
Speaking of, we should probably add the Chieftain's main gun, and the possibility that it was using something like the XM1111 Mid-Range Munition, since it was able to lock on and hit a very fast, very small target in the air... not exactly something tanks are designed to do. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] ([[User talk:Atypicaloracle|talk]]) 18:11, 30 June 2013 (EDT) | |||
== M4A1 / general writing style == | == M4A1 / general writing style == | ||
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Wade Wison - heh, thats should be in a yellow caption box, no? - capain snikt | Wade Wison - heh, thats should be in a yellow caption box, no? - capain snikt | ||
In CQC and alot of tactical training involves holding tightly on the mag well...so there really is a reason he does that...because thats the way a real combative would do it, and you would defently do it if your stock was all the way forward like in the picture. -Spades of Columbia | |||
==Raza's weapon== | |||
I just watched this movie on Blu-Ray recently, and it looks to me as though the assault rifle used by Raza is an [[M4A1]] with an AG36, not a G36K. When he and his men are recovering the remains of the original Iron Man suit (after Tony Stark has escaped), you see the weapon slung on his back from a distance, and it's clearly some type of AR. You can also see in one closer view that it has a Magpul stock. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:30, 26 July 2011 (CDT) | |||
==Armorer== | |||
Just to let you know. The armorer of this film is [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0271713/ David Fincl], who is best known for supplying weapons for [[The Hurt Locker]], [[Iron Man]], [[Flags of Our Fathers]], [[Gran Torino]], [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]], and such.- [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
==SAWs== | |||
They look like standard M249s rather than MK46s. If you look at the image at full size, you can make out full length barrels and the shape of an M249 heat shield can be seen on the third gun from the front. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:04, 7 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Word or phrase == | |||
You know the gatling gun the Iron Monger had? Well, the end of it's barrel does highly resemble the 30mm General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger. But what is the word or phrase I'm looking for on this attachment or part of the gatling gun? Like, is it "compensator", "barrel shroud", or "suppressor"? Because I found this similar part on the M61 Vulcan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan The first picture on top of the page). Most of the pictures on wikipedia show the m61 without that attachment at the end of it's barrels. However, the GE GAU-8/A Avenger had that attachment/part positioned differently on it's barrels. So what is the word or term I'm looking for for this part/attachment? Compensator, Suppressor, or Shroud? Because I wanna design this part for my ripped minigun model from Payday 2 to make it look cool. And not many guns (like sniper rifles, miniguns, and rocket/grenade launchers) have compensators.--[[User:Gunnerboy|Gunnerboy]] ([[User talk:Gunnerboy|talk]]) 23:38, 28 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
: It's generally just called a flash hider or flash suppressor - 'Shroud' would acceptable though many times they are used to indicate ones that are strictly cosmetic and have little if any effect on muzzle flash. Compensators particularly redirect muzzle blast in a manner to reduce muzzle climb, which mainly only applies to man-portable arms. 'Suppressor' is meant to indicate catch-all suppressors that suppress/diffuse sound of the shot in addition to reducing (usually near eliminating) muzzle blast. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 03:30, 29 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
::In the case of the GAU-8/A Avenger it is not a flash hider/suppressor, as if you look at an [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-8jO_fw1Om8/maxresdefault.jpg image of the muzzle] you will see that the barrels are continuous inside of it through the holes without any porting. This part is actually called the "barrel clamp" and it is what holds the barrels in their correct alignment. Why it is a perforated tube like that I don't know, I assume for an aerodynamic effect or for cooling of the barrels. In the case of some Vulcan variants it actually is a flash suppressor as it extends ahead of the muzzle of the barrels. For something like this I think "flash suppressor" is a better term than "flash hider" as the purpose is not to try and hide the firers locations so much as to dazzle the pilot who is using it less. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:16, 29 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
::: Agreed. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 19:59, 29 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
==Page update 25/4/2022== | |||
Just came to visit this page of a fantastic movie to do a bit of cleaning and tidying up to make it feel informative and updated. Great work from everyone who's contributed to one of my all time favourite movies. :) - MrJDK9412 (talk 22:54, 25 April 2022 (AEST) | |||
Latest revision as of 12:53, 25 April 2022
This pics are just place holders until better shots of the weapons can be found. Thanks (MPM2008)
Just a question
Why there's nothing about Iron Man and Iron Monger's own, armor-mounted arsenals ? Iron Man used flight stablizers as his primary firearm through the film and also he used rocket launchers, mounted on his shoulders in RoboCop style scene. There was also custom flamethrower on his very first armor. I forget, what was actually used by Iron Monger, but something was mounted on it's armor, i remember. --Kloga 08:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Name
- We should refer to them by their actual name - the Ten Rings, not as "Taliban". Even though the Ten Rings is obviously supposed to be a Taliban-like jihadist group, they're still not the Taliban proper.
Wrong! the ten rings is a fictional chinese founded ultra rationaist group, they take their names from the iron man villain the mandarin who weilds the ten rings of power, this name is a tip of the hat to an enemy we may see by the 3rd movie - captain snikt
- Looks like you were correct. Chitoryu12 00:05, 7 June 2012 (CDT)
Trailer Picture
It says that the guy's sleeve is in the way of the M4 Carbine's pistol grip, but to me it just looks as if the M4 was photoshopped out of the pic, then superimposed back on it, pointing away from Stark's head. Note the position of the owner's hands and how his finger seems to be wrapped around a trigger where there is no trigger. Just pointing out. Spartan198 08:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
tank
The tank that stark trashes when he goes back to Afghanistan in armor seems like and Abrams(likely produced by stark in the film universe) , but its unclear to me how is Stane supposed to smuggle tanks to Afghanistan without anyone noticing, guns are of course easy I mean couple of boxes of rockets and firearms are pretty much easy, but tanks he would have to requisition a cargo plane and that would probably come up in reports and the board would notice it
- Dude, that's not an Abrahms, it's a Chieftain tank. The flat secondary fuel tanks on the rear skirts is the tip off plus it sits too high to be an Abrahms. The Brits sold their Chieftain tanks to Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait and Oman. They're all over the Middle East. MoviePropMaster2008 23:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thanks for the explain I don't really know much about tanks
Speaking of, we should probably add the Chieftain's main gun, and the possibility that it was using something like the XM1111 Mid-Range Munition, since it was able to lock on and hit a very fast, very small target in the air... not exactly something tanks are designed to do. Atypicaloracle (talk) 18:11, 30 June 2013 (EDT)
M4A1 / general writing style
On the pic where RDjr. fires a rifle, from the deletet scenes:
What the heck is with you guys and the expression "for some reason... (...he uses the magazine housing instead of the foregrip to steady his aim.)"? First, there is a reason. Tony Stark (previous to his capture) used to build weapons, not fire them and furthermore it may well be assumed that Obediah was in charge, as Tony prefers to drink and party hard than work from 9 to 4. But what is far more important: If you dont have a clue, don't let the reader know it! Just leave it out! For good! - Wade Wilson
- Sorry, that old writing from a member who was known for capping on actors's stances, but when IMFDB started actively discouraging our members from writing sarcastic comments, everyone pretty much moderated their tone. Don't worry about that type of comment. Usually when we find it, now we reword it to not sound like we are insulting the actor :) MoviePropMaster2008 02:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Wade Wison - heh, thats should be in a yellow caption box, no? - capain snikt
In CQC and alot of tactical training involves holding tightly on the mag well...so there really is a reason he does that...because thats the way a real combative would do it, and you would defently do it if your stock was all the way forward like in the picture. -Spades of Columbia
Raza's weapon
I just watched this movie on Blu-Ray recently, and it looks to me as though the assault rifle used by Raza is an M4A1 with an AG36, not a G36K. When he and his men are recovering the remains of the original Iron Man suit (after Tony Stark has escaped), you see the weapon slung on his back from a distance, and it's clearly some type of AR. You can also see in one closer view that it has a Magpul stock. -MT2008 21:30, 26 July 2011 (CDT)
Armorer
Just to let you know. The armorer of this film is David Fincl, who is best known for supplying weapons for The Hurt Locker, Iron Man, Flags of Our Fathers, Gran Torino, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and such.- Kenny99 14:33, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
SAWs
They look like standard M249s rather than MK46s. If you look at the image at full size, you can make out full length barrels and the shape of an M249 heat shield can be seen on the third gun from the front. Spartan198 (talk) 21:04, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
Word or phrase
You know the gatling gun the Iron Monger had? Well, the end of it's barrel does highly resemble the 30mm General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger. But what is the word or phrase I'm looking for on this attachment or part of the gatling gun? Like, is it "compensator", "barrel shroud", or "suppressor"? Because I found this similar part on the M61 Vulcan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan The first picture on top of the page). Most of the pictures on wikipedia show the m61 without that attachment at the end of it's barrels. However, the GE GAU-8/A Avenger had that attachment/part positioned differently on it's barrels. So what is the word or term I'm looking for for this part/attachment? Compensator, Suppressor, or Shroud? Because I wanna design this part for my ripped minigun model from Payday 2 to make it look cool. And not many guns (like sniper rifles, miniguns, and rocket/grenade launchers) have compensators.--Gunnerboy (talk) 23:38, 28 October 2016 (EDT)
- It's generally just called a flash hider or flash suppressor - 'Shroud' would acceptable though many times they are used to indicate ones that are strictly cosmetic and have little if any effect on muzzle flash. Compensators particularly redirect muzzle blast in a manner to reduce muzzle climb, which mainly only applies to man-portable arms. 'Suppressor' is meant to indicate catch-all suppressors that suppress/diffuse sound of the shot in addition to reducing (usually near eliminating) muzzle blast. StanTheMan (talk) 03:30, 29 October 2016 (EDT)
- In the case of the GAU-8/A Avenger it is not a flash hider/suppressor, as if you look at an image of the muzzle you will see that the barrels are continuous inside of it through the holes without any porting. This part is actually called the "barrel clamp" and it is what holds the barrels in their correct alignment. Why it is a perforated tube like that I don't know, I assume for an aerodynamic effect or for cooling of the barrels. In the case of some Vulcan variants it actually is a flash suppressor as it extends ahead of the muzzle of the barrels. For something like this I think "flash suppressor" is a better term than "flash hider" as the purpose is not to try and hide the firers locations so much as to dazzle the pilot who is using it less. --commando552 (talk) 13:16, 29 October 2016 (EDT)
- Agreed. StanTheMan (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2016 (EDT)
- In the case of the GAU-8/A Avenger it is not a flash hider/suppressor, as if you look at an image of the muzzle you will see that the barrels are continuous inside of it through the holes without any porting. This part is actually called the "barrel clamp" and it is what holds the barrels in their correct alignment. Why it is a perforated tube like that I don't know, I assume for an aerodynamic effect or for cooling of the barrels. In the case of some Vulcan variants it actually is a flash suppressor as it extends ahead of the muzzle of the barrels. For something like this I think "flash suppressor" is a better term than "flash hider" as the purpose is not to try and hide the firers locations so much as to dazzle the pilot who is using it less. --commando552 (talk) 13:16, 29 October 2016 (EDT)
Page update 25/4/2022
Just came to visit this page of a fantastic movie to do a bit of cleaning and tidying up to make it feel informative and updated. Great work from everyone who's contributed to one of my all time favourite movies. :) - MrJDK9412 (talk 22:54, 25 April 2022 (AEST)