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Payback: The Director's Cut

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Blu Ray Cover

Country	Error creating thumbnail: File missing United States
Directed by	Brian Helgeland
Release Date	1999
Language	English
Studio	Icon Entertainment International
Distributor	Paramount Pictures

Main Cast
Character	Actor
Porter	Mel Gibson
Val Resnick	Gregg Henry
Rosie	Maria Bello
Arthur Stegman	David Paymer
Det. Hicks	Bill Duke
Mrs. Lynn Porter	Deborah Kara Unger
Phil	John Glover
Carter	William Devane
Pearl	Lucy Liu
Det. Leary	Jack Conley

Payback is a 1999 thriller starring Mel Gibson as Porter, a thief who is double-crossed and left for dead by both his wife and his partner in crime. After surviving the incident, Porter decides to go after them and get the money he's owed. The film is an adaptation of Richard Stark's novel The Hunter, and the novel's main character was also adapted into the 1967 Lee Marvin film Point Blank, the 1992 Chow Yun-Fat film Full Contact as well as the 2013 Jason Statham film Parker.

Unsatisfied with the original tone of the film as well as the ending, Gibson decided to reshoot several sequences and add several characters to the film before its initial theatrical release in 1999. In 2006, Brian Helgeland, the original writer/director of the film, was allowed to go back and restore his original vision for the film, which subsequently was released on DVD as "Payback Straight Up: The Director's Cut". Most of the screencaps for this page are from the Director's Cut.

The following weapons were used in the film Payback:

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Revolvers

Smith & Wesson Model 29

Porter (Mel Gibson) uses a blued Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. See the Discussion page for comparisons and additional information.

The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to Point Blank, in which Lee Marvin used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and later re-sold by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.

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-'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Payback]]'':'''
+{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
-[[Image:Payback cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Payback: The Director's Cut'' (1999)
+|name = Payback: The Director's Cut
+|picture = Payback cover.jpg
+|caption = ''Blu Ray Cover''
+|country = [[Image:USA.jpg|25px]] United States
+|director = Brian Helgeland
+|date= 1999
+|language = English
+|studio= Icon Entertainment International
+|distributor= Paramount Pictures
+|character1= Porter
+|actor1=[[Mel Gibson]]
+|character2=Val Resnick
+|actor2=[[Gregg Henry]]
+|character3=Rosie
+|actor3=[[Maria Bello]]
+|character4=Arthur Stegman
+|actor4=[[David Paymer]]
+|character5=Det. Hicks
+|actor5=[[Bill Duke]]
+|character6=Mrs. Lynn Porter
+|actor6=[[Deborah Kara Unger]]
+|character7=Phil
+|actor7=[[John Glover]]
+|character8=Carter
+|actor8=[[William Devane]]
+|character9=Pearl
+|actor9=[[Lucy Liu]]
+|character10=Det. Leary
+|actor10=[[Jack Conley]]
+}}
-''The original theatrical version was released in 1999, the Director's Cut was not released until 2006 when it appeared on DvD'']]
+'''''Payback''''' is a 1999 thriller starring [[Mel Gibson]] as Porter, a thief who is double-crossed and left for dead by both his wife and his partner in crime. After surviving the incident, Porter decides to go after them and get the money he's owed. The film is an adaptation of Richard Stark's novel ''The Hunter'', and the novel's main character was also adapted into the 1967 [[Lee Marvin]] film ''[[Point Blank (1967)|Point Blank]]'', the 1992 [[Chow Yun-Fat]] film ''[[Full Contact]]'' as well as the 2013 [[Jason Statham]] film ''[[Parker]]''.
+Unsatisfied with the original tone of the film as well as the ending, Gibson decided to reshoot several sequences and add several characters to the film before its initial theatrical release in 1999. In 2006, Brian Helgeland, the original writer/director of the film, was allowed to go back and restore his original vision for the film, which subsequently was released on DVD as "Payback Straight Up: The Director's Cut". Most of the screencaps for this page are from the Director's Cut.
+{{Film Title}}
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+{{spoiler}}
+=Revolvers=
 ==Smith & Wesson Model 29==
-Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. It is not a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] as previously mentioned, as the diameter of the muzzle and cylinder chambers is clearly too large to be .357 Magnum. Also the barrel on the Model 27 has a slight taper while the barrel on the M29 is a heavy "bull" barrel. In addition the forcing cone on the Model 27 is visible and the cylinder is shorter on the Model 27. The cylinder on the Model 29 fills the frame. Like the one used in the movie.In addition the Model 27 has very fine checkering on the top strap. Observe the stills that show the top strap on the revolver being used by Mel Gibson. It's smooth which is another feature of the Model 29.See the discussion page for comparisons.
+Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips (refinished by Peter Orr) for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the [[Talk:Payback|Discussion]] page for comparisons and additional information.'''
-[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 29 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
+The use of the Model 29 in this film is likely a tribute to ''[[Point Blank (1967)|Point Blank]]'', in which [[Lee Marvin]] used a nearly identical weapon. The Model 29 from this movie was sold when the Stembridge Gun Rentals inventory was auctioned off in 1999, and [https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=27408650 later re-sold] by Little John's Auction Service in 2007.
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. '''Right:''' Porter examines the gun like a real pro by pointing the muzzle at himself.Note the smooth topstrap. Consistent with a Model 29. See the discussion page for comparisons.]]
+[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 with 4" barrel - .44 Magnum]]
+[[Image:27408650 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'' The pistol shown here is the actual screen-used firearm from the movie; this gun was auctioned off by Stembridge Gun Rentals in 1999, and later re-sold by a different auction house.]]
+[[Image:27408650 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Another view of the screen-used Smith & Wesson Model 29-2 from ''[[Payback]].'']]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. <BR>'''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]]
 [[Image:PaybackS&W27-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After doing some flashy twirling, Porter hands the shop owner the Model 29 back to make a purchase. Without a background check it is doubtful he would have actually made the purchase. For some reason he isn't shown buying cartridges either...]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter searches his wife's house with his Model 29 at the ready. He has a "USMC" tattoo on his shoulder, so you'd assume he'd know how to clear a room. Instead he does what is typically done in films and wanders around the house with the revolver cocked and pointed at the ceiling.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) searches his wife's house with his Model 29 at the ready.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Model 29 with regular grips is seen in Detective Hicks' ([[Bill Duke]]) holster.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A S&W Model 29 with regular grips is seen in Detective Hicks' ([[Bill Duke]]) holster.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds his Model 27 on Val in the hotel room.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds his S&W on Val in the hotel room.]]
 [[Image:PaybackS&W27-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Val in Rosie's ([[Maria Bello]]) house.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val. This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val ([[Gregg Henry]]). This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this. It is possible, however, that he could have simply used the pillow to deflect the bloodspray caused by a close-range headshot.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds his Model 27 on the Detectives before handing it to them outside the "Outfit's" building.]]
 [[Image:PaybackS&W27-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur Stegman ([[David Paymer]]) holds a Model 29 on Porter in the back of a Taxi cab before he takes it from him.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires the Model 29 in an awkward akimbo stance along with a [[Beretta 92FS]] at the Triads, unloading about 13 rounds from his six shot revolver. For whatever reason he chose to put the heavier recoil handgun in his non-dominant hand, a poor choice in the real world.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety precaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety procaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of the gun's markings.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&w27-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Internal Affairs officers show off Porter's original [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] to Det. Hicks ([[Bill Duke]]) and Det. Leary ([[Jack Conley]]) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds the Model 29 on Pearl ([[Lucy Liu]]).]]
+==Smith & Wesson Model 28==
-[[Image:PaybackS&W27-16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty. That's the inconveniance of movie guns, they can fire off a ridiculous amount of ammunition but never have a bullet left when you really need it.]]
+Though Porter does purchase and use the above Model 29, the [[Smith & Wesson Model 28]] is seen standing in for it in some places, sometimes being switched in the same scenes. It can be differentiated from the Model 29 due to its tapered barrel and (if examined closely) shorter .357 cylinder in some shots. The gun can be identified specifically as a Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' rather than the almost identical, but much finer Model 27 due to its slightly duller finish and smooth, non-checkered topstrap.
-[[Image:PaybackS&w27-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Internal Affiars officers show off Porter's original Model 29 to Det. Hicks ([[Bill Duke]]) and Det. Leary ([[Jack Conley]]) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.]]
+[[Image:S&WModel28RubberCombatGrips.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' with 4" barrel and Rubber Combat Grips - .357 Magnum.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) holds his Model 28 on the Detectives before handing it to them outside the "Outfit's" building. The smaller-diameter .357 barrel is quite clear in this shot.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires what is now the [[Smith & Wesson Model 28]] in an akimbo stance along with a [[Beretta 92FS]] at the Triads, unloading about 13 rounds from his six shot revolver.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of both the gun's markings and the distinctive tapered barrel.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds the S&W Model 28 on Pearl ([[Lucy Liu]]). A close inspection here will note the tapered barrel, the slight cylinder gap, and the smooth topstrap.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W27-16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty. That's the inconvenience of movie guns, they can fire off a ridiculous amount of ammunition but never have a bullet left when you really need it. The smooth, non-checkered topstrap (Similar to the aforementioned Model 29) is also more clearly visible in this shot.]]
 ==Colt Python==
 Lynn Porter ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]) uses a stainless [[Colt Python]] to shoot Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) in the back after she and Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) decide to take the Triad's stolen money for themselves.
-[[Image:PythSilv.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Python - .357 Magnum.]]
+[[Image:ColtPythonSS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Python Stainless with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
-[[Image:PaybackColtPython-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lynn shoots Porter in the back with the Colt Python. Although she blinks on the first shot, she does a good job of keeping her eyes open for the other two.]]
+[[Image:PaybackColtPython-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lynn ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]) shoots Porter in the back with the Colt Python. Although she blinks on the first shot, she does a good job of keeping her eyes open for the other two.]]
-[[Image:PaybackColtPython-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val tries to comfort Lynn as she holds her Colt Python. Nice work following rule number three, finger off the trigger.]]
+[[Image:PaybackColtPython-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val ([[Gregg Henry]]) tries to comfort Lynn as she holds her Colt Python. Nice work following rule number three - finger off the trigger.]]
+==Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB==
+Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) tries to draw a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] Heavy Barrel with a 3" barrel (or maybe a [[Smith & Wesson Model 13]]) when he shot in the back by Lynn ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]).
+[[Image:SW103inch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 10HB with 3 inch barrel - .38 Special]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W10HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter attempts to draw his Smith & Wesson Model 10HB.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W10HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter falls down and drops his Model 10HB.]]
+==Smith & Wesson Model 49==
+Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) carries [[Smith & Wesson Model 49]] in an ankle holster.
+[[Image:SWBodyguard.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 49 'Bodyguard' .38 Special]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W49-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Outfit employee removed Val's Smith & Wesson Model 49 'Bodyguard'.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W49-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The employee remarks on the ankle gun.]]
+=Pistols=
 ==Beretta 92FS==
 Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) carries a [[Beretta 92FS]] pistol as his main sidearm, which Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) takes from him and uses for the rest of the film.
-[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Beretta 92FS - 9mm.]]
+[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val surrenders his Beretta 92FS when being stripped by an employee at "The Outfit".]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val surrenders his [[Beretta 92FS]] when being stripped by an employee at "The Outfit".]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val holds his Beretta 92FS on Rosie ([[Maria Bello]]) with a horrible gangster grip.]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val holds his Beretta on Rosie ([[Maria Bello]]) with a horrible 'gangster' grip.]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter hold's Val's Beretta 92FS on Fairfax ([[James Coburn]]) using the same horrible gangster grip. Apparently he forgot his USMC training...]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) hold's Val's Beretta 92FS on Fairfax ([[James Coburn]]) using the same horrible gangster grip.]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his Beretta 92FS akimbo with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 27]] at the Triads.]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his Beretta 92FS akimbo with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 28]] at the Triads.]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses an awful stance and flinches terribly as he unloads on the Triads.]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter unloads on the Triads.]]
 [[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and guns down the Triad driver.]]
 [[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rosie ([[Maria Bello]]) holding Porter's Beretta 92FS.]]
 [[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter guns down two thugs in the bathroom with his Beretta 92FS.]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Even though Porter had fired his Beretta 92FS multiple times during the final gunfight, the hammer is strangely down in this shot.]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Even though Porter had fired his 92FS multiple times during the final gunfight, the hammer is strangely down in this shot.]]
-[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his Beretta 92FS at the fleeing Outfit members. In his defense, his eyes are closed because he is dazed.]]
+[[Image:PaybackBeretta92FS-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires his [[Beretta 92FS]] at the fleeing Outfit members. In his defense, his eyes are closed because he is dazed.]]
-==Walther PP==
-Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) carries a [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PP|Walther PP]] as secondary sidearm.
-[[Image:Walther PP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther PP - .32 ACP.]]
-[[Image:PaybackWaltherPP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val surrenders his Walther PP to an Outfit employee.]]
-==Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard"==
-Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) carries [[Smith & Wesson Model 36 / 38#Smith & Wesson Model 49|Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard"]] in an ankle holster.
-[[Image:S&WBody3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 38 - .38spl. Aluminum framed version of Model 49.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W49-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Outfit employee removed Val's Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard".]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W49-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The employee remarks on the ankle gun.]]
 ==Walther PPK==
-Pearl ([[Lucy Liu]]) carries a blued [[Walther PPK]] with pearl grips (possibly in relation with her name) as her sidearm.
+Pearl ([[Lucy Liu]]) carries a blued [[Walther PPK]] with pearl grips (possibly in relation with her name) as her sidearm. In the "Straight Up" version, an Outfit member is seen firing one at Porter during the final firefight as well.
-[[Image:WaltherPPK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP.]]
+[[Image:WaltherPPK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP.]]
-[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worst shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover.]]
+[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she misses him across the 2ft distance of the van.]]
-[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.]]
+[[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her [[Walther PPK]] on Porter.]]
 [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got ''really'' lucky.]]
+[[Image:PaybackP7M8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the "Straight Up" version, one of the Outfit members fires her Walther PPK at Porter.]]
 ==SIG-Sauer P220==
-The Triad van driver is seen firing a [[SIG-Sauer P220]] through the floor of the van at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as the P220 model by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
+Chow's bodyguard ([[Jeff Imada]]) is seen firing a [[SIG-Sauer P220]] through the floor of the van at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as P220 models by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
-[[Image:SigP220EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 ACP.]]
+[[Image:SigP220EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 ACP]]
-[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Carter with one of his guard's SIG-Sauer P220 pistols, flinching before the gun even goes off.]]
+[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Carter with one of his guard's [[SIG-Sauer P220]] pistols.]]
-[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Triad van driver fires his SIG-Sauer P220 at Porter under the van, and misses him despite him being directly under him.]]
+[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chow's bodyguard ([[Jeff Imada]]) fires his SIG P220 at Porter under the van, and misses him despite him being directly under him.]]
-[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Triad driver is shot by Porter. Note the lack of bulges in the frame.]]
+[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chow's bodyguard is shot by Porter. Note the lack of bulges in the frame.]]
-[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Outfit members at the end of the film tries to exit the car and shoot at Porter while armed with a SIG-Sauer P220. The actor playing this thug appears to be [[Patrick Kilpatrick]].]]
+[[Image:PaybackSIGP220-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Outfit members at the end of the film tries to exit the car and shoot at Porter while armed with a SIG-Sauer P220. The actor playing this thug is Marc Vann, best known for playing Conrad Ecklie in ''[[CSI]]''. The one in the middle is John Glover, best known for playing Lionel Luthor in ''[[Smallville]]''.]]
-==M3 "Grease Gun"==
-When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
-[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.]]
-[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Triad gang members fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]
-[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]
 ==Glock 17==
-One of the Triad gang members is seen using a 2nd Generation [[Glock 17]] to shoot at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) in the taxi cab. Later Porter is seen disposing of two Glock 17s after killing two thugs in the restroom.
+One of the Triad gang members is seen using a 2nd Generation [[Glock 17]] to shoot at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) in the taxi cab. Later Porter is seen disposing of two Glock 17s after killing two thugs in the restroom - These Glocks appear to be earlier first generation models due to their lack of ridges in the grips.
-:The two Glocks Porter takes from the restroom thugs appear to be first generation models due to their lack of ridges in the grips.
+[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (2nd Generation) - 9x19mm]]
-[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock 17 - 9mm.]]
-[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A generation 1 Glock 17 in 9x19mm.]]
 [[Image:PaybackGlock17-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Triads fires his Glock 17 at Porter in the cab. Note how the top of the barrel has been milled down for blank conversion.]]
-[[Image:PaybackGlock17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter throws two Glock 17s into the trash bin.]]
+[[image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 (1st Generation) - 9x19mm]]
+[[Image:PaybackGlock17-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter throws two 1st Gen [[Glock 17]]s into the trash bin. Note the lack of ridges in the backstraps.]]
-==Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel==
+==Smith & Wesson 6906==
-Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) tries to draw a [[Smith & Wesson Model 10]] Heavy Barrel with a 3" barrel when he shot in the back by Lynn ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]).
+Lynn's ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]) heroin dealer ([[Freddy Rodriguez]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson 6906]] with bobbed hammer installed, which Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) disarms him of and holds on him as he interrogates him.
-[[Image:S&WModel10HB.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 10HB - .38spl.]]
+[[Image:S&W6906 TUS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 6069 - 9x19mm]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W10HB-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter attempts to draw his Smith & Wesson Model 10HB.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W669-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter disarms the heroin dealer of his S&W 6906.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W10HB-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter falls down and drops his Model 10HB.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W669-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter searches the dealer while holding his [[Smith & Wesson 6906]] on him.]]
+[[Image:PaybackS&W669-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) with the Smith & Wesson 6906.]]
 ==Heckler & Koch VP70==
 A Triad gang member fires a [[Heckler & Koch VP70]] at Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) in the taxi cab.
-[[Image:HK VP70Z 1890.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch VP70 - 9mm.]]
+[[Image:VP70.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch VP70 - 9x19mm]]
-[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Triad fires his Heckler & Koch VP70.]]
+[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Triad fires his VP70.]]
-[[Image:PaybackVP70-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Triad holding his Heckler & Koch VP70. What happened to his shades?]]
+[[Image:PaybackVP70-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Triad holding his [[Heckler & Koch VP70]], grinning victoriously and removing his shades after (he thinks) the van ran Porter over.]]
-==Remington 870 Sawed-Off==
+==Walther PP==
-Radioman ([[Kwame Amoaku]]) tries to save Arthur Stegman ([[David Paymer]]) with a sawed-off  [[Remington 870]] shotgun before being mowed down by the Triads. Based on the sling swivel on the pistol grip, it is assumed this gun was professional sawed down by a film armorer.
+Val Resnick ([[Gregg Henry]]) carries a [[Walther PP]] as a secondary sidearm.
-[[Image:Rem870SO1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 Sawed-Off - 12 Gauge.]]
+[[Image:Walther PP.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther PP - .32 ACP (7.65x17mm)]]
-[[Image:PaybackRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Radioman holds his sawed-off Remington 870 on Porter when he disarms Stegman in the back seat of the taxi.]]
+[[Image:PaybackWaltherPP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Val surrenders his Walther PP to an Outfit employee.]]
-[[Image:PaybackRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good side shot of the Remington 870. Note the sling swivel on the grip.]]
-==Smith & Wesson 669==
-Lynn's ([[Deborah Kara Unger]]) heroin dealer carries a [[Smith & Wesson 669]] with bobbed hammer installed, which Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) disarms him of and holds on him as he interigates him.
-[[Image:Smith & wesson model 669.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 669 without old bobbed hammer - 9mm.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W669-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses his USMC "training" to bumblingly disarm the heroin dealer of his Smith & Wesson 669. Note how in real life, he'd have a bullet in his gut.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W669-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter searches the dealer while holding his Smith & Wesson 669 on him.]]
-[[Image:PaybackS&W669-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter with the Smith & Wesson 669.]]
 ==Heckler & Koch P7==
-One of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) bodyguards is seen armed with a [[Heckler & Koch P7M8]] before Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) knocks him out with a roll of pennies. An Outfit member is seen firing one at Porter during the final firefight as well.
+One of Carter's ([[William Devane]]) bodyguards is seen armed with a [[Heckler & Koch P7]] before Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) knocks him out with a roll of pennies.
+[[Image:H&K P7.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch P7 - 9x19mm]]
-I am pretty sure this is a HK P7 and not a M8. Look at the first pic. The gun lacks the mag release latches on the trigger guard, and the guard itself is much smaller like the P7 over the M8, biggest give away is the gun shown lacks the heat shield in the trigger guard.
+[[Image:PaybackP7M8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard drops his Heckler & Koch P7 after being knocked out by Porter.]]
-[[Image:P7M8Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch P7M8 - 9mm.]]
-[[Image:PaybackP7M8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The guard drops his Heckler & Koch P7M8 after being knocked out by Porter.]]
-[[Image:PaybackP7M8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Outfit members fires her Heckler & Koch P7M8 at Porter.]]
 ==Ruger Mark II==
 An Outfit thug at the train station opens his lunchbox to reveal [[Ruger Mk II Pistol|Ruger Mark II]] pistol with an integral suppressor.
-[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Ruger Mark III with custom suppressor - .22 long rifle.]]
+[[Image:RugerMkIIISilenced.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ruger Mark III with custom suppressor - .22 long rifle.]]
 [[Image:PaybackRugerMkII-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Outfit thug reveals a suppressed Ruger Mark II pistol in his lunch box.]]
 ==Walther P38==
 Inside the pawn shop, a [[Walther P38]] is seen hanging on the pistol rack, along with several unknown revolvers.
-[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther P38 - 9mm.]]
+[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 - 9x19mm]]
 [[Image:PaybackWaltherP38-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Walther P38 hangs on the pistol rack in the pawn shop.]]
+[[Image:Payback-p38a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The weapons on the pistol rack in the pawn shop.]]
+=Shotguns=
+==Remington 870 'Witness Protection'==
+Radioman (Kwame Amoaku) tries to save Arthur Stegman ([[David Paymer]]) with a [[Remington 870]] 'Witness Protection' shorty shotgun before being mowed down by the Triads. It can be noted as a Witness Protection variant due to the large rounded base of the sawed-down-looking pistol grip and small blade sight on the short barrel. It also appears to have a sling swivel at the base of the grip.
+[[Image:Rem870WP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 'Witness Protection' - 12 Gauge]]
+[[Image:PaybackRem870-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Radioman holds his Remington 870 on Porter when he disarms Stegman in the back seat of the taxi. Note the small front blade sight, which would not be present on a shotgun with a sawed-down barrel.]]
+[[Image:PaybackRem870-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good side shot of the [[Remington 870|Remington 870 'Witness Protection']]. Note the large rounded base to the pistol grip. Note also the sling swivel on the base of the grip.]]
+=Submachine Guns=
+==M3 "Grease Gun"==
+When Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing [[M3A1 "Grease Gun"|M3 "Grease Guns"]]. They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
+[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP]]
+[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the Triads fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.]]
+[[Image:PaybackVP70-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chow's bodyguard (right) fires his M3.]]
+[[Image:PaybackM3GreaseGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".]]

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Revolvers

Smith & Wesson Model 29

Smith & Wesson Model 28

Colt Python

Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB

Smith & Wesson Model 49

Pistols

Beretta 92FS

Walther PPK

SIG-Sauer P220

Glock 17

Smith & Wesson 6906

Heckler & Koch VP70

Walther PP

Heckler & Koch P7

Ruger Mark II

Walther P38

Shotguns

Remington 870 'Witness Protection'

Submachine Guns

M3 "Grease Gun"

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