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==The MP5==
- Though it's late (well, for me anyway), I don't see any barrel lugs. Could it actually be a Chopped-and-Converted HK94A2? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:Not sure how you can see at all, given the size of the pic. But since it has a detachable SEF lower receiver, it's not one of the partially-converted HK94s. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::- Bah, didn't even think about receiver. N00b mistake I guess, well like I said it was late. Cool though. Crummy as this film is (And it is crummy), there should be more on it, namely the scene where they actually rob the police armory, there's several additional guns there, one of which I believe had some kind of desert camo paint job all over it. Among some other stuff. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 23:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
==Shane Black's gun==
==Shane Black's gun==
It is Identified as a Mossberg 500 but it's a Mossberg 590. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
It is Identified as a Mossberg 500 but it's a Mossberg 590. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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::Duh. it's a High Standard K-1200 ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::Duh. it's a High Standard K-1200 ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:HighStandardK120Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|High Standard K-1200]]
[[Image:HighStandardK120Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|High Standard K-1200]]
So, is Michael Douglas's shotgun in [[Black Rain]] also a high standard with a pistol grip?  It has a similar bolt?  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::Whoa Not even close! Look at the handguard, handguard ring, barrel attachment to the mag tub, top of the ejector hole.  The original guess is correct - its a 31 with an extended mag tube.  Black Rain's gun is not this shotgun. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 00:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Reed's shotgun is a Stevens 67. Look at the trigger guard in the other shots. It's not a model 31. The ejection port also matches the stevens 67. -J3
==Armored Car==
What model was that armored car used in the final assault on the Resistance?
:I believe it's one of the Cadillac Gage Commando series with a turret mounted on top.  A Cadillac armored car attacking Cadillac Heights, you gotta love the irony.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 02:51, 29 March 2011 (CDT)
[[File:Robo3_2098.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
== Please Help Id ==
Please help ID these weapons --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 20:22, 15 December 2013 (EST)
[[File:Robo3 2084.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Weapon on the left.]]
:I'm sure this is a [[Armalite_AR-7#Charter_Arms_Explorer|that thing]]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 10:11, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
[[File:Robo3 2068.jpg|thumb|none|600px|rifle on the right.]]
:Maybe a [[AR-15#Armscor_M16_22|Armscor M16 22]]? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:59, 15 December 2013 (EST)
What's the rifle leaning against the wall on the right?
[[Image:RoboCop3 6012.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The cart has a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] and a [[Valmet M76]], in addition to the previously seen weapons. Coontz is seen pulling off a [[Mossberg 590]].]]
[[Gewehr 43]]? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:54, 14 May 2018 (EDT)
:Are you sure? They look like the [[M14]]s on the other walls. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 22:36, 14 May 2018 (EDT)
:: Actually I think he's right that these are G43s.. Certainly not M14s/M1As at the very least - Trigger guard clearly missing the frontward holed safety latch is a definite giveaway. Overall stock shape isn't correct either, neither is the barrel and flash hider. And the mag is clearly too short for a 20 rounder 7.62. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:53, 15 May 2018 (EDT)
::Yeah, to clarify, I was referring specifically the rifle leaning up against the wall next to the red cabinet directly behind Coontz. But now that Stan mentions it, the rifles in the background next to the cage with the M79 and Striker inside it look like more G43s. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:36, 15 May 2018 (EDT)
In addition, SKS is probably Chinese? I do not think that there were many original ones converted for detachable magazines. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 10:17, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
:Yeah gotta be the SKS-D indeed, considering that it's a pre ban imported to the US weapon and Robocop 3 was released in 1993. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 18:11, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
==Security Pistols==
Got a few extra HD caps of the movie before it went off on Netflix - Most of 'em I've posted on the main page, but this one I would like initiate discussion about (obviously) -
[[File:RC3-SecurityPistols-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
The stainless gun (ID'd on the main page as a 92FS Inox) looks more like a S&W auto in this shot, while the blued pistol next to him appears to be a Jericho 941. Agree/disagree? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:04, 5 March 2015 (EST)
==The Auto-9 change==
Making changes to the section to reflect this is where the gun changed from the 93R version to the 92FS version. This vid where Gibbons displayed various movie pieces, including the 92FS-based Auto-9 used in this film and later ''Sin City''. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 23:10, 8 August 2021 (EDT) <BR>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3vhIeD6OQ

Latest revision as of 03:23, 9 August 2021


The MP5

- Though it's late (well, for me anyway), I don't see any barrel lugs. Could it actually be a Chopped-and-Converted HK94A2? StanTheMan 03:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Not sure how you can see at all, given the size of the pic. But since it has a detachable SEF lower receiver, it's not one of the partially-converted HK94s. -MT2008 04:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bah, didn't even think about receiver. N00b mistake I guess, well like I said it was late. Cool though. Crummy as this film is (And it is crummy), there should be more on it, namely the scene where they actually rob the police armory, there's several additional guns there, one of which I believe had some kind of desert camo paint job all over it. Among some other stuff. StanTheMan 23:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Shane Black's gun

It is Identified as a Mossberg 500 but it's a Mossberg 590. MoviePropMaster2008 09:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sgt. Reed's shotgun

What model is Sgt. Reed's shotgun that he uses at the end of the film? I think it's a Winchester 1300 but I'm not sure. --Ben41 10:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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Winchester 1300
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Remington Model 31

Sgt. Reed's shotgun has the bolt partly at the top of the receiver, like the Win 1300 seems to have, but the mag tube is different, has the Rem 31 style which is seen on Ithaca's 37 too. But the bolt on the Rem 31 doesn't seem to be partly at the top of the receiver.--Predator20 14:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC) I thought it could be Remington as well, but that bolt really doesn't match.--Ben41 00:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


Duh. it's a High Standard K-1200 ;) MoviePropMaster2008 00:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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High Standard K-1200


So, is Michael Douglas's shotgun in Black Rain also a high standard with a pistol grip? It has a similar bolt? --Ben41 00:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Whoa Not even close! Look at the handguard, handguard ring, barrel attachment to the mag tub, top of the ejector hole. The original guess is correct - its a 31 with an extended mag tube. Black Rain's gun is not this shotgun. MoviePropMaster2008 00:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Reed's shotgun is a Stevens 67. Look at the trigger guard in the other shots. It's not a model 31. The ejection port also matches the stevens 67. -J3

Armored Car

What model was that armored car used in the final assault on the Resistance?

I believe it's one of the Cadillac Gage Commando series with a turret mounted on top. A Cadillac armored car attacking Cadillac Heights, you gotta love the irony.--Wildcards 02:51, 29 March 2011 (CDT)
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Please Help Id

Please help ID these weapons --Ben41 (talk) 20:22, 15 December 2013 (EST)

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Weapon on the left.
I'm sure this is a that thing. --Slon95 (talk) 10:11, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
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rifle on the right.
Maybe a Armscor M16 22? --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2013 (EST)

What's the rifle leaning against the wall on the right?

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The cart has a Franchi SPAS-12 and a Valmet M76, in addition to the previously seen weapons. Coontz is seen pulling off a Mossberg 590.

Gewehr 43? Spartan198 (talk) 17:54, 14 May 2018 (EDT)

Are you sure? They look like the M14s on the other walls. --Ben41 (talk) 22:36, 14 May 2018 (EDT)
Actually I think he's right that these are G43s.. Certainly not M14s/M1As at the very least - Trigger guard clearly missing the frontward holed safety latch is a definite giveaway. Overall stock shape isn't correct either, neither is the barrel and flash hider. And the mag is clearly too short for a 20 rounder 7.62. StanTheMan (talk) 21:53, 15 May 2018 (EDT)
Yeah, to clarify, I was referring specifically the rifle leaning up against the wall next to the red cabinet directly behind Coontz. But now that Stan mentions it, the rifles in the background next to the cage with the M79 and Striker inside it look like more G43s. Spartan198 (talk) 22:36, 15 May 2018 (EDT)


In addition, SKS is probably Chinese? I do not think that there were many original ones converted for detachable magazines. --Slon95 (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2020 (EDT)

Yeah gotta be the SKS-D indeed, considering that it's a pre ban imported to the US weapon and Robocop 3 was released in 1993. --Nanomat (talk) 18:11, 16 June 2020 (EDT)

Security Pistols

Got a few extra HD caps of the movie before it went off on Netflix - Most of 'em I've posted on the main page, but this one I would like initiate discussion about (obviously) -

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The stainless gun (ID'd on the main page as a 92FS Inox) looks more like a S&W auto in this shot, while the blued pistol next to him appears to be a Jericho 941. Agree/disagree? StanTheMan (talk) 01:04, 5 March 2015 (EST)

The Auto-9 change

Making changes to the section to reflect this is where the gun changed from the 93R version to the 92FS version. This vid where Gibbons displayed various movie pieces, including the 92FS-based Auto-9 used in this film and later Sin City. StanTheMan (talk) 23:10, 8 August 2021 (EDT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3vhIeD6OQ