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{{Infobox TV|{{PAGENAME}}
|picture = Babylon Berlin se2.jpg
|country = [[File:GER.jpg|25px]] Germany
|channel = Sky Deutschland
|genre = Crime
|dates = November 10, -<br /> December 1, 2017
|episodes = 8
|character1=Gereon Rath
|actor1=[[Volker Bruch]]
|character2=Charlotte Ritter
|actor2=[[Liv Lisa Fries]]
|character3=Alfred Nyssen
|actor3=[[Lars Eidinger]]
|character4=Reinhold Gräf
|actor4=[[Christian Friedel]]
|character5=Gottfried Wendt
|actor5=[[Benno Fürmann]]
|character6=Helga Rath
|actor6=[[Hannah Herzsprung]]
|character7=Samuel Katelbach
|actor7=[[Karl Markovics]]
}}
{{TV Title Season|2|Babylon Berlin}}
__TOC__<br clear=all>
{{spoilers}}
=Pistols=
==Dreyse Model 1907==
[[Image:Dreyse 1907.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Dreyse 1907 - 7.65mm Browning]]
==J.P. Sauer & Sohn Model 1926==
Czerwinski ([[Rüdiger Klink]])
[[Image:Sauer_1913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Sauer Model 1913 - .32 ACP]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-JPSauer1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-JPSauer-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
==Walther Model 4==
Henning ([[Thorsten Merten]])
[[File:Walther mod 4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther Model 4 - .32 ACP]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-WaltherPistol1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-WaltherPistol2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
[[File:Ddss.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Henning holds his Walther Model 4 on some prisoners (Ep. 03).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-WaltherPistol3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 03).]]
==Tokarev TT-30/TT-33==
[[File:TT-30.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-30, first version of Tokarev pistol - 7.62x25mm Tokarev.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-TT1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
==Luger P08==
[[File:P08Luger1917.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Play.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Actors fire blanks from Luger P08s in a stage play (Ep. 06).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Luger1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Luger2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
[[File:Luglib.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Bruno Wolter (Peter Kurth) steals a P08 Luger from a dead soldier (Ep. 08).]]
[[File:Fgg.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Bruno Wolter (Peter Kurth) takes aim with his stolen P08 Luger (Ep. 08).]]
==Astra Model 300==
[[File:Astra 300 autor frank d-01.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Astra 300 - 9mm Kurz (.380ACP)]]
[[File:Asasd.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Our mystery gun up close Season 1, Episode 10]]
[[File:De3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Our mystery gun appears again Season 1, Episode 16]]
==Ortgies Pocket Automatic==
[[File:Ortgies Pocket Automatic 25.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ortgies Pocket Pistol - .25 ACP]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-OrtgiesE8-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:Ortgiesconf.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gereon Rathtucks Bruno Wolter's Ortgies Pocket Automatic into his waistband (Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-OrtgiesE8-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-OrtgiesE8-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-OrtgiesE8-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
==Mauser C96==
[[File:C96STOCK.jpg|thumb|none|300px|C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser fitted with holster/stock combo - 7.63x25mm Mauser]]
[[File:Broomsup.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A C96 is seen with a stock and suppressor Season 1, Episode 16]]
[[File:Broomsup2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A C96 is seen with a stock and suppressor Season 1, Episode 16]]
==Colt M1911A1==
The "Armenian" ([[Misel Maticevic]]) uses nickel Plated [[Colt M1911A1]].
[[Image:NickelPlatedM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nickel Plated M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Colte8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
=Revolvers=
==Webley Bulldog==
Samuel Katelbach ([[Karl Markovics]])
[[File:WebleyBulldog.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Webley British Bulldog - .45 caliber]]
==Nagant M1895==
A communist is seen with a [[Nagant M1895]] in Episode 08.
[[File:Nagant-1895.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nagant M1895 Revolver - 7.62x38R Nagant. This example was dated 1939 manufacture and was a Wartime issued weapon. Note the angular front sight which was used from 1930s.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Nagant1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Nagant2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
=Submachine Guns=
==Steyr MP34==
Moritz Rath ([[Ivo Pietzcker]]) and Bruno can be seen with [[MP34]] in Episode 5.
[[File:Mp34.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Steyr-Solothurn S1-100 - 7,65 mm Luger, 9 mm Parabellum, 9 mm Steyr.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-SteyrMP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-SteyrMP2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-SteyrMP3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-SteyrMP4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
==Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II==
Some Black ''Reichswehr'' soldiers are armed with [[MP28]]s.
[[File:Mp28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Haenel-Schmeisser MP28/II Submachine Gun - 9x19mm]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-MP1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-MP2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-MP3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
=Rifles=
==Mauser Gewehr 1888/05==
A Gewehr 88/05 is seen hanging in Bruno Wolter's living room that he takes to give it to Moritz who fans it.
[[File:G88_05.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888/05 - 7.92x57mm.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"''Is the a G88?'"]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"''Yes it is a G88. It has served me faithfully and is now in well-deserved retirement'"]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"''Take aim!''"(Ep. 01).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 03).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-G88-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
==Mauser Gewehr 1898==
[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 - 7.92x57mm.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gewehr0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 05).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gewehr1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 06).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gewehr2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gewehr3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gewehr4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
==Mosin Nagant 1891/30==
Two Soviet soldiers can be seen in front of the Soviet embassy in ''Berlin Mitte'' armed with [[Mosin Nagant M91/30]] rifles with fixed bayonets.
[[File:M9130.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Full-length Mosin Nagant M91/30 - 7.62x54mmR]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Mosin1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 02).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Mosin2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 03).]]
==Haenel-Mannlicher Takedown (?)==
[[File:Wff.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Bruno Wolter (Peter Kurth) is seen putting the two halves of the rifle together Season 1, Episode 14]]
[[File:Dtv.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Bruno Wolter (Peter Kurth) is seen putting a scope on what appears to be a Haenel-Manlicher type rifle. Also worth noting the double triggers, and the band where the barrel meets the receiver Season 1, Episode 14]]
[[File:Full.jpg|thumb|none|600px| Bruno Wolter (Peter Kurth) is seen taking aim with the rifle Season 1, Episode 14]]
=Machine Guns=
==Maxim MG 08==
During the repeated WWI flashback, in Episode 8, two [[Maxim MG08]]s can be seen.
[[File:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on 'sledge' mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Maxim0.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 05).]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Maxim2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
==Schwarzlose M.07/12==
The Austrian [[Schwarzlose Machine Gun Model 07/12]] is also briefly seen in the same flashback.
[[Image:Schwarz 07-12.jpeg|thumb|none|400px|Schwarzlose MG M. 7/12 - 8x50mmR Mannlicher.]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Schwarzlose.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
=Hand Grenades=
==M1917 Chemical Grenade==
[[File:Russian Gas Hand Grenade M1917.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M1917 Chemical hand grenade]]
[[File:BabylonBerlinS2-Gasgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|600px|(Ep. 08).]]
{{Babylon Berlin}}
[[Category:Crime]]
[[Category:Mystery]]
[[Category:Television]]
[[Category:Thriller]]
[[Category:German Produced/Filmed]]
== Discussion ==
== Discussion ==


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:I uploaded new pictures in slightly better quality. I hope they will help. Speaking of, can you also help me with a pistol ID in the third season? I will upload some pictures there soon--[[User:HighPhigh|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh|talk]]) 05:09, 5 November 2020 (EST)
:I uploaded new pictures in slightly better quality. I hope they will help. Speaking of, can you also help me with a pistol ID in the third season? I will upload some pictures there soon--[[User:HighPhigh|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh|talk]]) 05:09, 5 November 2020 (EST)
::Thanks, now I can say that it's really a Walther Mod 4. The visually short slide was only the effect of the angle of view. Concerning Season 3, I'll try some photoshop magic on dark screenshots, maybe it would help to identify the pistols. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)
::Thanks, now I can say that it's really a Walther Mod 4. The visually short slide was only the effect of the angle of view. Concerning Season 3, I'll try some photoshop magic on dark screenshots, maybe it would help to identify the pistols. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)
Speaking about the takedown rifle: as we can see [https://www.google.ru/search?q=%22Haenel-Mannlicher%22&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwigpsrvsI_tAhVKlosKHUtxAOoQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=%22Haenel-Mannlicher%22&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1D5lgZYsrAGYJqzBmgAcAB4AIABjQGIAYgDkgEDMC4zmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=w8y2X-C4IMqsrgTL4oHQDg&bih=607&biw=1173&hl=ru via google], Haenel-Mannlicher rifles tend to have the bolt handle placed forwards to the trigger, while the screen gun has the bolt handle placed different. I have little knowledge of these hunting rifles but as for me, the rifle may be a kind of Mauser Sporter. Maybe Rigby or Westley Richards rifles, they all have Mauser action. This is only a guess, maybe I'm wrong. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:05, 19 November 2020 (EST)
:[https://www.gunsamerica.com/945839924/Krieghoff-Pre-War-Mauser-9-3x62-calibe.htm Krieghoff Pre-War Mauser 9.3x62] - NOT a takedown gun, but otherwise very similar, with butterknife style bolt handle and double trigger set. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:19, 19 November 2020 (EST)

Latest revision as of 11:23, 5 December 2020

Discussion

Sorry, I can't wait until you create the page :) Don't you think that the pistol, identified as Walther Mod 4, looks somewhat strange? The trigger guard is too close to the front of the slide. I have no idea what it can be if not Model 4, but still it's strange. --Greg-Z (talk) 13:48, 4 November 2020 (EST)

I uploaded new pictures in slightly better quality. I hope they will help. Speaking of, can you also help me with a pistol ID in the third season? I will upload some pictures there soon--HighPhigh (talk) 05:09, 5 November 2020 (EST)
Thanks, now I can say that it's really a Walther Mod 4. The visually short slide was only the effect of the angle of view. Concerning Season 3, I'll try some photoshop magic on dark screenshots, maybe it would help to identify the pistols. --Greg-Z (talk) 06:24, 5 November 2020 (EST)

Speaking about the takedown rifle: as we can see via google, Haenel-Mannlicher rifles tend to have the bolt handle placed forwards to the trigger, while the screen gun has the bolt handle placed different. I have little knowledge of these hunting rifles but as for me, the rifle may be a kind of Mauser Sporter. Maybe Rigby or Westley Richards rifles, they all have Mauser action. This is only a guess, maybe I'm wrong. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:05, 19 November 2020 (EST)

Krieghoff Pre-War Mauser 9.3x62 - NOT a takedown gun, but otherwise very similar, with butterknife style bolt handle and double trigger set. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:19, 19 November 2020 (EST)