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:The second unidentified revolver is hardly an Adams as it has a different trigger guard and seemingly different grip, also this revolver seems to have a rib over the barrel. I had an idea about [[Webley No.5]] that has a similar barrel but it also differs in details. The first revolver may be an early Webley but it also can be an S&W model. It just isn't seen clear enough to make a sure guess. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:50, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | :The second unidentified revolver is hardly an Adams as it has a different trigger guard and seemingly different grip, also this revolver seems to have a rib over the barrel. I had an idea about [[Webley No.5]] that has a similar barrel but it also differs in details. The first revolver may be an early Webley but it also can be an S&W model. It just isn't seen clear enough to make a sure guess. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:50, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ||
::I thought it could be a Webley given the context (British guards, early 20th century), but I know that's not always a reliable method. I don't know, something about it really strikes me as a Webley... --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 22:09, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ::I thought it could be a Webley given the context (British guards, early 20th century), but I know that's not always a reliable method. I don't know, something about it really strikes me as a Webley... --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 22:09, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ||
:::I added a note about possible Webley. The barrel seems to me too long for 4-inch Webley barrels, more like 5-inch S&W barrels, but maybe I'm wrong. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:17, 1 September 2020 (EDT) | |||
I think that Berdan actually may depicts Chassepot because of the very high resemblance. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | I think that Berdan actually may depicts Chassepot because of the very high resemblance. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ||
:Agree, added a note. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:17, 1 September 2020 (EDT) | |||
One of the revolvers suspiciously resembles Pieper M1893. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:29, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | One of the revolvers suspiciously resembles Pieper M1893. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:29, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ||
:The M1893 is a carbine, though --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 22:09, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | :The M1893 is a carbine, though --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 22:09, 31 August 2020 (EDT) | ||
:You mean [http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20p/pieper%20henri%20mexicain%208mm-05.JPG this one] that is referred as "Mexican Model", right? Thanks, a really interesting idea. But there is a difference in the raised rear part of the frame on Pieper while the screen gun seems to have flat top of the frame - at least as I can see. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:17, 1 September 2020 (EDT) | |||
::There were many Piper revolvers, the lasts of which had a modern design indistinguishable from Smith-Wesson. And yes, Spanish clones also existed. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 07:20, 1 September 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::I couldn't find an exact matching model but Spanish clones of Pieper, produced under French and Romanian contract during the WWI, look very similar to the screen gun (like [https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/military-revolvers---non-us/ww1-or-wwi-spanish---french-model-1915-or-m1915-8mm-double-action-military-revolver-.cfm?gun_id=100755425 this one]). So thanks, identified, without a sample image as I still cannot find a non-watermarked image of such model. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:03, 1 September 2020 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 16:07, 1 September 2020
The first unidentified revolver is most likely an early (pre-Mark VI) Webley revolver. The second one could be an Adams revolver, maybe a cartridge conversion? --Dan San (talk) 15:39, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
- The second unidentified revolver is hardly an Adams as it has a different trigger guard and seemingly different grip, also this revolver seems to have a rib over the barrel. I had an idea about Webley No.5 that has a similar barrel but it also differs in details. The first revolver may be an early Webley but it also can be an S&W model. It just isn't seen clear enough to make a sure guess. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:50, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
I think that Berdan actually may depicts Chassepot because of the very high resemblance. --Slon95 (talk) 18:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
One of the revolvers suspiciously resembles Pieper M1893. --Slon95 (talk) 18:29, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
- The M1893 is a carbine, though --Dan San (talk) 22:09, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
- You mean this one that is referred as "Mexican Model", right? Thanks, a really interesting idea. But there is a difference in the raised rear part of the frame on Pieper while the screen gun seems to have flat top of the frame - at least as I can see. --Greg-Z (talk) 02:17, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
- There were many Piper revolvers, the lasts of which had a modern design indistinguishable from Smith-Wesson. And yes, Spanish clones also existed. --Slon95 (talk) 07:20, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
- I couldn't find an exact matching model but Spanish clones of Pieper, produced under French and Romanian contract during the WWI, look very similar to the screen gun (like this one). So thanks, identified, without a sample image as I still cannot find a non-watermarked image of such model. --Greg-Z (talk) 12:03, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
- There were many Piper revolvers, the lasts of which had a modern design indistinguishable from Smith-Wesson. And yes, Spanish clones also existed. --Slon95 (talk) 07:20, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
