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[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-B.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy Hazard ([[Parker Stevenson]]) with a [[Colt 1860 Army]] and Charles Main ([[Lewis Smith]]) with a [[Remington 1858 New Army]]. Both revolvers are cartridge versions.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-B.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy Hazard ([[Parker Stevenson]]) with a [[Colt 1860 Army]] and Charles Main ([[Lewis Smith]]) with a [[Remington 1858 New Army]]. Both revolvers are cartridge versions.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Charles Main ([[Lewis Smith]]) with two [[Colt 1860 Army]] revolvers.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Charles Main ([[Lewis Smith]]) with two [[Colt 1860 Army]] revolvers.]]
== Colt 1851 Navy ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|South Carolina Militia Capt. Durham (uncredited) holds a Colt Navy revolver when he assists Justin LaMotte in kidnapping of Madeline LaMotte from Mains estate Mont Royal.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Another view of Durham's Colt. The cylinder matches original cap and ball version.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Pell, Charles Main's fellow officer, holds a Colt Navy.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maj. Dupree fires his revolver at Union cavalrymen, attacking the food wagon train.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Kent fires his revolver in the Battle of the Wilderness.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Pickles, another Charles Main's fellow officer, holds a Colt Navy revolver during the interrogation of captured Union cavalryman.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1851Navy-18.jpg|thumb|none|500px|George Hazard holds a Colt Navy when he leads his soldiers in attack on Confederate fortifications in the Battle of Petersburg.]]
== Colt 1860 Army ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Augusta Barclay holds a Colt Army.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Orry Main carries a Colt Army in open holster and a Remington 1858 in closed holster.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Orry Main holds a Colt Army after the encounter with smugglers.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cuffey carries a Colt Army revolver.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Colt1860Army-16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Salem Jones picks up a Colt Army revolver during the night attack on Mains estate.]]
== Sharps 1859 Rifle ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sharpshooters train with their Sharps rifles.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closeup of the igniting of percussion cap.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy Hazard carries his rifle when he appears in the regiment.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-14.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy Hazard and other sharpshooters in the First Battle of Bull Run.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-19.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A close view of Billy's rifle.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-20.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy returns to his regiment after going AWOL.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-SharpsRifle-21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Billy and another sharpshooter in the Battle of Wilderness.]]
== Springfield 1861 and 1863 ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A rifle at the left in hands of a soldier of 79th New York Volunteer Infantry (this regiment was unique in wearing Glengarry caps) can be identified as Springfield 1861.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Union soldier fire Springfield rifles.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-12.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-13.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Union soldiers on march. They are mostly armed with Springfield 1861 rifles.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield rifles in the camp of Maj. Dupree's unit.]]
== Enfield Pattern 1853 ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Many Union soldiers in the First Battle of Bull Run are armed with Enfield 1853 rifles.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-16.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Maj. Dupree's soldier fire at Union cavalrymen. An Enfield 1853 rifle is seen at the left and a Springfield 1861 rifle - in center.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-21.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Confederate soldiers with Enfield 1853 rifles in the Battle of the Wilderness.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Musket-23A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Confederate soldiers before the surrender in Lynchburg. A second from foreground man holds an Enfield 1853.]]
== Double Barreled Shotgun ==
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Some soldiers of the escort of Gen. Orry Main are armed with short-barreled shotguns.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ezra grabs a shotgun when a horseman in Confederate uniform approaches to Mont Royal.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cuffey's gang member (at the left) with a shotgun.]]
[[File:North-and-South-Book-II-Shotgun-22.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Charles defends the estate against Cuffey's gang.]]


= Talk =
= Talk =


All shotguns is percussion. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:07, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
All shotguns is percussion. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:07, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
:I'm in a doubt about Brett's shotgun, but others look like common top-break. Explain please. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:19, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
::Breach-load guns is assembled in two parts, while the screen guns is a solid. And they all have ramrods. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:30, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
:::Thanks. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:31, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
==Hey GregZ==
Did you miss the rules about uploading tons of extraneous screenshots? :D  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 01:49, 22 March 2020 (EDT)
:I know the rule... I just don't think that these screenshots are extraneous. From my perspective, they are necessary for completeness of the description, especially because this production is 6-part series, full of battle scenes with numerous various firearms. But if there are objections, I promise not to do so in the future.--[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:47, 22 March 2020 (EDT)
:: the rules explicitly state to NOT exceed 7 screencaps if it's only wielded by ONE character, not to exceed 10 if you're showing multiple characters.  Sure you can exceed 10 if the number of different characters using the firearm is more than ten, but that's it.  I for the record DO consider the screencaps in this entry excessive.  So I'm standing by my assertion that this page technically violates the rules.  Try to limit shots that are similar, especially if the character is the same in each shot.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 19:01, 2 May 2020 (EDT)
:::I greatly reduced the number of screenshots, weeping bitterly over each deleted one. Currently there is no more than 10 images in any entry. Now I hope everything is OK. Thanks. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:42, 3 May 2020 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 06:42, 3 May 2020

Special Thanks

The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru.--Greg-Z (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2020 (EDT)

Additional Images

Revolvers on Promotional Images

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George Hazard (James Read) with a Colt 1851 Navy and Orry Main (Patrick Swayze) with a Colt 1860 Army. Both revolvers are cartridge versions.
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Billy Hazard (Parker Stevenson) with a Colt 1860 Army and Charles Main (Lewis Smith) with a Remington 1858 New Army. Both revolvers are cartridge versions.
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Charles Main (Lewis Smith) with two Colt 1860 Army revolvers.

Talk

All shotguns is percussion. --Slon95 (talk) 15:07, 21 March 2020 (EDT)

I'm in a doubt about Brett's shotgun, but others look like common top-break. Explain please. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
Breach-load guns is assembled in two parts, while the screen guns is a solid. And they all have ramrods. --Slon95 (talk) 15:30, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
Thanks. --Greg-Z (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2020 (EDT)

Hey GregZ

Did you miss the rules about uploading tons of extraneous screenshots? :D MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 01:49, 22 March 2020 (EDT)

I know the rule... I just don't think that these screenshots are extraneous. From my perspective, they are necessary for completeness of the description, especially because this production is 6-part series, full of battle scenes with numerous various firearms. But if there are objections, I promise not to do so in the future.--Greg-Z (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2020 (EDT)
the rules explicitly state to NOT exceed 7 screencaps if it's only wielded by ONE character, not to exceed 10 if you're showing multiple characters. Sure you can exceed 10 if the number of different characters using the firearm is more than ten, but that's it. I for the record DO consider the screencaps in this entry excessive. So I'm standing by my assertion that this page technically violates the rules. Try to limit shots that are similar, especially if the character is the same in each shot. MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 19:01, 2 May 2020 (EDT)
I greatly reduced the number of screenshots, weeping bitterly over each deleted one. Currently there is no more than 10 images in any entry. Now I hope everything is OK. Thanks. --Greg-Z (talk) 02:42, 3 May 2020 (EDT)
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