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[[Image:colt_cobra_hammerless.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Actual Colt Cobra used by Jack Ruby to kill Lee Harvey Oswald - .38 Special]] | [[Image:colt_cobra_hammerless.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Actual Colt Cobra used by Jack Ruby to kill Lee Harvey Oswald - .38 Special]] | ||
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==Colt Agent== | |||
[[Image:ColtAgent.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Colt Agent - .38 Special]] | |||
The '''Colt Agent''' is a lower-cost version of the Cobra. The Agent has a lighter alloy frame than the Cobra and comes fitted with smaller grips, aiding in concealment. The Colt Agent was chambered only for the .38 Special cartridge and was offered only with a 2-inch barrel. | |||
===Specifications=== | |||
(1955-1973) | |||
* '''Type:''' Revolver | |||
* '''Caliber(s):''' .38 Special | |||
* '''Weight:''' 0.94 lbs (0.43 kg) | |||
* '''Barrel length:''' 2 in (51 mm) | |||
* '''Capacity:''' 6-round Cylinder | |||
* '''Fire Modes:''' DA/SA | |||
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==Colt Viper== | |||
[[File:Coltviper.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Colt Viper - .38 Special]] | |||
The Viper was essentially a 4" barrel version of the alloy-framed Colt Cobra in .38 Special. Externally, it resembles a [[Colt Trooper|Colt MKIII Trooper]] with fixed sights. There were no other barrel lengths offered and the only finish options were blue and nickel. Introduced in 1977 and only produced that year, the Viper did not sell as well as Colt expected and was discontinued. In recent years, owing to its limited production run, the Viper has become quite collectible, arguably the most valuable and sought-after of all Colt's "snake guns". Forgeries using surplus barrels are quite common and genuine examples in good condition fetch unusually high prices. | |||
===Specifications=== | |||
(1977) | |||
* '''Type:''' Revolver | |||
* '''Caliber(s):''' .38 Special | |||
* '''Barrel length:''' 4 in (51 mm) | |||
* '''Capacity:''' 6-round Cylinder | |||
* '''Fire Modes:''' DA/SA | |||
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The 38NP was simply the 38 S&W. Colt couldn't handle making a revolver that was chambered for a round named after it's competition. So it changed the name from 38 S&W to 38NP. 38NP is how it was marketed by Colt. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:50, 6 September 2011 (CDT) | The 38NP was simply the 38 S&W. Colt couldn't handle making a revolver that was chambered for a round named after it's competition. So it changed the name from 38 S&W to 38NP. 38NP is how it was marketed by Colt. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:50, 6 September 2011 (CDT) | ||
: Wrong caliber, buddy. He means .32 New Police; that was a Colt marketing name for .32 S&W Long. Said round is an old, essentially obsolete revolver cartridge. Much like .357 Magnum revolvers can chamber .38 Special and .38 Long Colt, .32 H&R Magnum guns can chamber the older, less powerful round. [[User:Chitoryu12|Chitoryu12]] ([[User talk:Chitoryu12|talk]]) 00:55, 15 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
:Yep my mistake. Need to pay attention that what is written. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 13:26, 8 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:: Better 2/5 years late than never! ;) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Well I'm a very relaxed person who lives life on a seasonal and semi-annual basis. :) --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:26, 26 February 2017 (EST) | |||
== New Colt Cobra? == | |||
[[File:Cobra lede.jpg|thumb|350px|none|New Colt Cobra - .38 Spl]] | |||
Does the new Cobra that Colt produces have the same internals as this one?--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 22:15, 17 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
:This article (https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/1/1/the-keefe-report-colt-cobra-a-new-factory-double-action-colt/) from the January 2017 edition of "The American Rifleman" makes it sound like that there are some engineering changes, but doesn't go into great depth. So I guess the answer is........kind-of-ish. I too am very curious. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:36, 26 February 2017 (EST) | |||
Thankee-sai.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 15:50, 26 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
:Anytime. Always happy to talk about wheelguns. They're old tech and I'm quickly getting oldish so it's a good fit.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:59, 26 February 2017 (EST) | |||
Do you have a favorite wheelgun in particular?--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 19:17, 26 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
:I'm very fond of the S&W K frame revolvers - especially in .38 Special. However I also like the older Colt medium size frame revolvers as well such as the Colt Official Police and Colt Officer Model. But I'm not exclusive. I own large framed revolvers from S&W and Colt and I also own a couple Ruger revolvers, a Webley Mk VI and a Manuhrin MR-73. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 21:00, 26 February 2017 (EST) | |||
Nice. I, personally, don't have much revolver experience. I've shot a Ruger Super Redhawk, a Heritage Arms .22, and some double-action .357 from Argentina, or something.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 20:20, 1 March 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
==Viper== | |||
The Viper looks just like the fourth issue of the Police Positive Special. Was it simply a Police Positive with a lightweight frame? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 08:39, 9 February 2020 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:39, 9 February 2020
Additional Variants
Colt Agent
The Colt Agent is a lower-cost version of the Cobra. The Agent has a lighter alloy frame than the Cobra and comes fitted with smaller grips, aiding in concealment. The Colt Agent was chambered only for the .38 Special cartridge and was offered only with a 2-inch barrel.
Specifications
(1955-1973)
- Type: Revolver
- Caliber(s): .38 Special
- Weight: 0.94 lbs (0.43 kg)
- Barrel length: 2 in (51 mm)
- Capacity: 6-round Cylinder
- Fire Modes: DA/SA
Colt Viper
The Viper was essentially a 4" barrel version of the alloy-framed Colt Cobra in .38 Special. Externally, it resembles a Colt MKIII Trooper with fixed sights. There were no other barrel lengths offered and the only finish options were blue and nickel. Introduced in 1977 and only produced that year, the Viper did not sell as well as Colt expected and was discontinued. In recent years, owing to its limited production run, the Viper has become quite collectible, arguably the most valuable and sought-after of all Colt's "snake guns". Forgeries using surplus barrels are quite common and genuine examples in good condition fetch unusually high prices.
Specifications
(1977)
- Type: Revolver
- Caliber(s): .38 Special
- Barrel length: 4 in (51 mm)
- Capacity: 6-round Cylinder
- Fire Modes: DA/SA
Discussion
Little Known Fact
(Moved from Death Wish 3 page.)
A little known fact, Jack Ruby used a Colt Cobra to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald on November 24, 1963, while he was in custody of the Dallas Police Department after Oswald allegedly assassinated President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
.32 'New Police' caliber?
It was originally posted in all capitals letter (which I've changed), but still, I've never heard of such a thing. Is it simply an obscure chambering specific to this gun? StanTheMan 20:47, 17 July 2011 (CDT)
The 38NP was simply the 38 S&W. Colt couldn't handle making a revolver that was chambered for a round named after it's competition. So it changed the name from 38 S&W to 38NP. 38NP is how it was marketed by Colt. --Jcordell 21:50, 6 September 2011 (CDT)
- Wrong caliber, buddy. He means .32 New Police; that was a Colt marketing name for .32 S&W Long. Said round is an old, essentially obsolete revolver cartridge. Much like .357 Magnum revolvers can chamber .38 Special and .38 Long Colt, .32 H&R Magnum guns can chamber the older, less powerful round. Chitoryu12 (talk) 00:55, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
- Yep my mistake. Need to pay attention that what is written. --Jcordell (talk) 13:26, 8 February 2016 (EST)
- Better 2/5 years late than never! ;) StanTheMan (talk) 15:41, 8 February 2016 (EST)
- Well I'm a very relaxed person who lives life on a seasonal and semi-annual basis. :) --Jcordell (talk) 15:26, 26 February 2017 (EST)
New Colt Cobra?
Does the new Cobra that Colt produces have the same internals as this one?--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 22:15, 17 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
- This article (https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/1/1/the-keefe-report-colt-cobra-a-new-factory-double-action-colt/) from the January 2017 edition of "The American Rifleman" makes it sound like that there are some engineering changes, but doesn't go into great depth. So I guess the answer is........kind-of-ish. I too am very curious. --Jcordell (talk) 15:36, 26 February 2017 (EST)
Thankee-sai.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 15:50, 26 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
- Anytime. Always happy to talk about wheelguns. They're old tech and I'm quickly getting oldish so it's a good fit.--Jcordell (talk) 15:59, 26 February 2017 (EST)
Do you have a favorite wheelgun in particular?--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 19:17, 26 February 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
- I'm very fond of the S&W K frame revolvers - especially in .38 Special. However I also like the older Colt medium size frame revolvers as well such as the Colt Official Police and Colt Officer Model. But I'm not exclusive. I own large framed revolvers from S&W and Colt and I also own a couple Ruger revolvers, a Webley Mk VI and a Manuhrin MR-73. --Jcordell (talk) 21:00, 26 February 2017 (EST)
Nice. I, personally, don't have much revolver experience. I've shot a Ruger Super Redhawk, a Heritage Arms .22, and some double-action .357 from Argentina, or something.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
Viper
The Viper looks just like the fourth issue of the Police Positive Special. Was it simply a Police Positive with a lightweight frame? --Maxman (talk) 08:39, 9 February 2020 (EST)