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I don't think that's an MP5SD, rather I think it's some sort of barrel shroud or compensator on a regular MP5. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:17, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
I don't think that's an MP5SD, rather I think it's some sort of barrel shroud or compensator on a regular MP5. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 22:17, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
::Actually during the briefing Colonel Rose specifically mentions using "...silenced weapons" and when the envisioned run through happens you hear the cliched 'Hollywood' sound of suppressed weapons. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:22, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
::Actually during the briefing Colonel Rose specifically mentions using "...silenced weapons" and when the envisioned run through happens you hear the cliched 'Hollywood' sound of suppressed weapons. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:22, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
== MP-5 Magazines ==
During the raid and the run throughs the SAS troopers are all using curved MP-5 mags. I thought those didn't come into use until later in the 1980s and they were still using the old straight mags at the time of Operation Nimrod. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] ([[User talk:Charon68|talk]]) 08:24, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
:The curved magazines were introduced in 1977. These mags are evident in photos of the rescue operation, although I do recall seeing a few straight mags in the mix.-- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 20:05, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
::Yep, curved magazines were around at the time, and were used IRL during Operation Nimrod. (Note the contrast to the movie ''[[The Final Option]]'', which instead depicts the SAS troopers using straight magazines, even though they'd gone to curved by that time.)
::There are other anachronisms regarding the MP5s, though:
::*I noticed that most of them actually have Navy trigger packs (and a few even have the four-position trigger packs, indicating that they're MP5A5s), and those were not around at the time - the Navy trigger group was first introduced in 1982, and even then, I don't think that the red fire control pictogram style was around (that came a few years later, maybe 1984-85); before that, the selector came with numbered markings.
::*The MP5SDs also have the plastic hand guard over the suppressor, which was not available at the time - in 1980, the MP5SD variants just had the suppressor can without any extra hand guards (see the movie ''[[Navy SEALs]]'' for an example of what they looked like in those days - and also photos from the real-lie Operation Nimrod).
::*Also, I might be wrong, but I didn't think the MP5K was used by the SAS in those days, even though it was around at the time. I'm also under the impression that the sightless MP5KA1 is the only -K variant that the SAS has ever used.
::-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 19:54, 28 May 2019 (EDT)

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Terrorist Revolver

One of the terrorist's uses a revolver which, I am pretty sure, is a Smith & Wesson 686 but I couldn't see it clearly. --Charon68 (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

Smith & Wesson .38

Metropolitan Police Constable Trevor Lock is seen with what is described as a 'Smith & Wesson .38' but the full weapon is never seen as, with in real life, it never leaves its' holster.

Amazon Video

You can actually watch this on Amazon Excalibur01 (talk) 15:44, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

MP5SD

I don't think that's an MP5SD, rather I think it's some sort of barrel shroud or compensator on a regular MP5. --Funkychinaman (talk) 22:17, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

Actually during the briefing Colonel Rose specifically mentions using "...silenced weapons" and when the envisioned run through happens you hear the cliched 'Hollywood' sound of suppressed weapons. --Charon68 (talk) 08:22, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

MP-5 Magazines

During the raid and the run throughs the SAS troopers are all using curved MP-5 mags. I thought those didn't come into use until later in the 1980s and they were still using the old straight mags at the time of Operation Nimrod. --Charon68 (talk) 08:24, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

The curved magazines were introduced in 1977. These mags are evident in photos of the rescue operation, although I do recall seeing a few straight mags in the mix.-- Phillb36 (talk) 20:05, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
Yep, curved magazines were around at the time, and were used IRL during Operation Nimrod. (Note the contrast to the movie The Final Option, which instead depicts the SAS troopers using straight magazines, even though they'd gone to curved by that time.)
There are other anachronisms regarding the MP5s, though:
  • I noticed that most of them actually have Navy trigger packs (and a few even have the four-position trigger packs, indicating that they're MP5A5s), and those were not around at the time - the Navy trigger group was first introduced in 1982, and even then, I don't think that the red fire control pictogram style was around (that came a few years later, maybe 1984-85); before that, the selector came with numbered markings.
  • The MP5SDs also have the plastic hand guard over the suppressor, which was not available at the time - in 1980, the MP5SD variants just had the suppressor can without any extra hand guards (see the movie Navy SEALs for an example of what they looked like in those days - and also photos from the real-lie Operation Nimrod).
  • Also, I might be wrong, but I didn't think the MP5K was used by the SAS in those days, even though it was around at the time. I'm also under the impression that the sightless MP5KA1 is the only -K variant that the SAS has ever used.
-MT2008 (talk) 19:54, 28 May 2019 (EDT)