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== Possible ID of the several muskets ==
== Possible ID of the several muskets ==


[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or  [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) [[Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856]] or  [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]
[[File:MTP-GunStore-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. 3) Percussion (possible convert) [[Jezail Musket]]. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or  [[Springfield 1861]]. 6) The gun is very similar to [[Springfield Model 1842]], but has a different rear sight. 7) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or  [[Springfield 1861]]. 8) [[Blunderbuss]] style shotgun.]]


[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
[[File:MTP-GunStore-9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket]]
:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
:I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)


== Lever Action Rifle ==
== Lever Action Rifle ==
Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up [[Single Barreled Shotgun]]? Did they actually function in the movie? [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)
:These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 08:19, 9 May 2019

Special Thanks

The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. Greg-Z (talk) 11:22, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

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Nagant M1895 (visually modified)

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Town residents in bar fire their revolvers.
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The panoramer fires.
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A townsman fires.
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A man with two revolvers break into editors office.
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Joe Goodman (Lev Lemke) holds a revolver.

One of the pistols isn't a flintlock, but a wheellock

One of the pistols, which described as flintlock isn't a flintlock, but a wheellock.

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The pistol on the top isn't a flintlock. Note the bulged part under the lock, which is a typical sign of a wheelock firearms. Despite the shot is a darked, the wheel and the dog can be seen. A less important sign is the shape of a trigger guard, which is similar the shape of the gun image under this screenshot.
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Wheellock pistol. The screen gun is a very similar althought a more longer barrreled and has barrel bands.

Possible ID of the several muskets

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From the top to bottom. 1) Unknown Musket. 2) Brown Bess Flintlock Musket. 3) Percussion (possible convert) Jezail Musket. 4) Unknown percussion long rifle or musket. 5) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or Springfield 1861. 6) The gun is very similar to Springfield Model 1842, but has a different rear sight. 7) Russian 6-Lines Rifle Pattern 1856 or Springfield 1861. 8) Blunderbuss style shotgun.
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This shot depict the muzzle of brown bess musket
I don't think that these guesses can be proved or declined. Springfield rifles are rarely seen outside America, and they have no chance to appear in Soviet Moldovan movie. Pattern 1856 rifles were mostly converted into Krnka rifles, so original guns of this model are very rare. No.3 is possibly a Cossack or "Circassian" musket, of North Caucasus origin. No. 8 looks more like a kind of cavalry carbine. Anyway it's all very vague, so better leave them unidentified. Greg-Z (talk) 08:56, 12 August 2018 (EDT)

Lever Action Rifle

Why do the 'lever actions' look like mocked up Single Barreled Shotgun? Did they actually function in the movie? Black Irish Paddy (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2018 (EDT)

These guns aren't operated on screen so yes, they can be mocked up shotguns. Thanks! Greg-Z (talk) 06:30, 13 August 2018 (EDT)