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From what I gather, the versions with "blast shield removed" might actually be a different model. The real name of this weapon is ''Raketenpanzerbüchse'' (RPzB) and the first model, RPzB 43, had no shield; apparently this meant that the user had to wear a gas mask to protect them from getting a faceful of rocket exhaust. The shield was added on the later RPzB 54 model (which also had improved iron sights), and there was also the RPzB 54/1 which used an improved rocket, not that there would be any useful way to tell that externally. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:43, 16 May 2012 (CDT) | From what I gather, the versions with "blast shield removed" might actually be a different model. The real name of this weapon is ''Raketenpanzerbüchse'' (RPzB) and the first model, RPzB 43, had no shield; apparently this meant that the user had to wear a gas mask to protect them from getting a faceful of rocket exhaust. The shield was added on the later RPzB 54 model (which also had improved iron sights), and there was also the RPzB 54/1 which used an improved rocket, not that there would be any useful way to tell that externally. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 07:43, 16 May 2012 (CDT) | ||
: Quick question, when was the 54 model introduced? I would assume 1954 but would like to know for certain - It seems to be the version used in all these WWII films and games but I'd like to know specifically if those are anachronistic appearances or not (Wouldn't surprise me, we've many times seen post-war 'Super-Bazookas' in WWII films as well). [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 20:25, 10 December 2014 (EST) | |||
::The 54 was introduced pretty quickly after the original 43 model, later the same year (1943), hence why the original model is comparatively rare. I have no idea where the number comes from though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:31, 10 December 2014 (EST) | |||
== Stupid Question == | |||
Can shield of this gun protect from bullets? --[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 05:42, 2 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:Short answer, no. The issue shield was made of thin sheet metal as it needed to be light, and its only purpose was to protect the firer from the heat and burning powder coming out the back of the round as it left the tube. Having said that, it would of course be better than nothing and there may be cases where one has stopped a bullet fired at extreme long range, but this was in no way their purpose. Also, before the official shield was issued crews made their own shields as the original gas mask and gloves were a real pain in the arse to use, and some of these improvised ones were made from thicker material which may have been more protective. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:35, 2 January 2017 (EST) | |||
== A suggestion == | |||
Should this page be renamed to 'Raketenpanzerbüchse' since that is its official name? I understand that "Panzerschreck" has become the weapon's ideal name over time but it is not exactly accurate. And the Germans called the weapon "Ofenrohr (stove pipe)" more than "Panzerschreck". [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 18:07, 17 April 2019 (EDT) | |||
: Eh, I don't really see the dire need to change the name of the page itself (and with it all the links/redirects) - the "official" RPzB name is stated in the writeup, as is the Ofenrohr/"stove pipe" nickname. And nothing prevents one from using/noting these other names on media pages if one is really so inclined. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:25, 17 April 2019 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 01:25, 18 April 2019
From what I gather, the versions with "blast shield removed" might actually be a different model. The real name of this weapon is Raketenpanzerbüchse (RPzB) and the first model, RPzB 43, had no shield; apparently this meant that the user had to wear a gas mask to protect them from getting a faceful of rocket exhaust. The shield was added on the later RPzB 54 model (which also had improved iron sights), and there was also the RPzB 54/1 which used an improved rocket, not that there would be any useful way to tell that externally. Evil Tim 07:43, 16 May 2012 (CDT)
- Quick question, when was the 54 model introduced? I would assume 1954 but would like to know for certain - It seems to be the version used in all these WWII films and games but I'd like to know specifically if those are anachronistic appearances or not (Wouldn't surprise me, we've many times seen post-war 'Super-Bazookas' in WWII films as well). StanTheMan (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2014 (EST)
- The 54 was introduced pretty quickly after the original 43 model, later the same year (1943), hence why the original model is comparatively rare. I have no idea where the number comes from though. --commando552 (talk) 20:31, 10 December 2014 (EST)
Stupid Question
Can shield of this gun protect from bullets? --Dannyguns (talk) 05:42, 2 January 2017 (EST)
- Short answer, no. The issue shield was made of thin sheet metal as it needed to be light, and its only purpose was to protect the firer from the heat and burning powder coming out the back of the round as it left the tube. Having said that, it would of course be better than nothing and there may be cases where one has stopped a bullet fired at extreme long range, but this was in no way their purpose. Also, before the official shield was issued crews made their own shields as the original gas mask and gloves were a real pain in the arse to use, and some of these improvised ones were made from thicker material which may have been more protective. --commando552 (talk) 06:35, 2 January 2017 (EST)
A suggestion
Should this page be renamed to 'Raketenpanzerbüchse' since that is its official name? I understand that "Panzerschreck" has become the weapon's ideal name over time but it is not exactly accurate. And the Germans called the weapon "Ofenrohr (stove pipe)" more than "Panzerschreck". Theakker3 (talk) 18:07, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
- Eh, I don't really see the dire need to change the name of the page itself (and with it all the links/redirects) - the "official" RPzB name is stated in the writeup, as is the Ofenrohr/"stove pipe" nickname. And nothing prevents one from using/noting these other names on media pages if one is really so inclined. StanTheMan (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2019 (EDT)