Talk:Underworld (2003): Difference between revisions
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Talk:Underworld (2003): Difference between revisions
Kraven's enforcer Soren ([[Scott McElroy]]) uses silver-plated razor whips to fight Raze ([[Kevin Grevioux]]) but one gets caught and Soren is killed.
[[Image:Underworld-RazorWhip-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soren ([[Scott McElroy]]) wields two silver razor whips.]]
==Long Sword==
Viktor ([[Bill Nighy]]) uses a long sword to finish off Raze ([[Kevin Grevioux]]) in werewolf form; after Viktor drops the sword in battle with Michael ([[Scott Speedman]]), Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) takes it up.
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selene looks over at the long sword on the ground.]]
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Selene armed with the sword.]]
[[Image:Underworld-Sword-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Close up on the sword in Selene's hand.]]
==Fighting Knives==
Without his sword, Viktor ([[Bill Nighy]]) whips out two immense fighting knives during the final battle.
[[Image:Underworld-ShortSwords-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Viktor holding his twin fighting knives.]]
==Retractable Arm Blade==
Lucian ([[Michael Sheen]]) uses a blade that extends from his sleeve in an attempt to stop Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) and Michael ([[Scott Speedman]]) as he pursues them. He later distracts Kraven ([[Shane Brolly]]) by stabbing him in the leg with it.
[[Image:Underworld-ArmBlade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lucian extends his arm blade. That seems rather cumbersome to wear comfortabley on a regular basis.]]
==Silver Shuriken Stars==
Selene ([[Kate Beckinsale]]) uses several retractable shuriken throwing stars made of silver to combat the Lycans.
[[Image:Underworld-SilverShuruken-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Four shuriken blades in flight as Selene throws them at Raze.]]
[[Image:Underworld-SilverShuruken-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The bloody shurikens as they are extracted from Raze's chest.]]
=Discussion=
== M16A2 ==
== M16A2 ==
The pistol grip on the M16 appears to be lacking the finger notch which is on the A2 but not on the A1. It is difficult to be certain from the picture. This could be an A1 with A2-style handguards. Does anyone know for certain?
The pistol grip on the M16 appears to be lacking the finger notch which is on the A2 but not on the A1. It is difficult to be certain from the picture. This could be an A1 with A2-style handguards. Does anyone know for certain?
:That's not an M16A2. The upper seems to have no forward assist, so that means it's an M16A1 upper. The lower is an SP1-style lower. It's just like this gun:
:[[Image:M16A1 SP1 A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt AR-15 Sporter-1 (SP1) with M16A2 hand guards 5.56x45mm]]
:-[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
== Full auto P99s ==
I don't remember those P99s being full autos. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
In reality, they aren't, but in the opening scene, after Seline tosses her Beretta's for her P99's, she fires a few times, then they cut to a different character, cut back to Selene and she's firing them as if they were fully automatic. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 23:01, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
== Modified Beretta 92FS ==
Additionally, are the compensators attached to Selene's Beretta 92FS are real world compensator or were the designed specifically for the film? 29 June 2009 (UTC)
dose Selene had two Beretta 92FS, two P99s, and a USP conpact on her at all times?
:I don't think so. It's been awhile since I've seen the movie, but IIRC, she carried the Berettas for the first part of the movie, then switched to the Walthers once they started using the silver nitrate rounds. And she never used the USP in combat, she only used it at the mansion firing range, which being part of the mansion armory, has multiple weapons available. Guessing she just picked it up "in house" for her target shooting, it doesn't appear to be anything she carries with her regularly. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 05:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Selene's Berettas do not seem to have real compensators like in Evolution, but more like covers for the extended barrels. There are no ports on top of the "covers" and the still showing Selene firing, only muzzle flash is seen and no flash upwards as with a normal compensator.
Also, she does use the P99s in combat, in the end when the vampires attack the lycan hideout. You can clearly see them when she jumps down the tunnel, and when she does a forward flip while shooting a lycan. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] 23:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I never said she didn't use the P99's in combat. I said she didn't use the USP in combat. The letters "USP" look nothing like "P99" so not sure how you made that mistake. [[User:DKS01|DKS01]] 06:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
== Burst 92 conversion? ==
Would it be possible to convert a Beretta 92FS to fire 3 round burst rather than full auto? I ask as I saw this movie the other today, and it seemed as if Selene was firing consistent 3 round bursts, and she seemed to be repeatedly "clicking" the triggers rather than holding them. Can you "drop in" a component from the 93R to do this, or is it not that simple? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 20:21, 8 August 2011 (CDT)
== unknown SMG? ==
I think the unknown SMG is a PM-63 Submachine gun. what do you guys think? --[[User:Fenris357|Fenris357]] 16:17, 08 October 2011
:I agree. You can just about make out the unfolded forward grip at the top, along with the long slanted compensator. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:49, 8 October 2011 (CDT)
To me, the back end looks too short to be a PM-63. I ''want'' to say [[Arsenal Shipka]]. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 20:07, 14 February 2016 (EST)
== Beretta Triggers ==
[[Image:BerettaTriggersUnderworld.jpg]]
This is an image from a recent Cinemax plug for Underworld on Facebook. I was admiring the Berettas when suddenly, I noticed that the hammers were to the rear....but the triggers were still in double-action. Any explanation for this phenomenon? --[[User:ZeoRanger5|ZeoRanger5]] ([[User talk:ZeoRanger5|talk]]) 15:31, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
:My guess is it is something to do with the fact that the guns are converted to full auto. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:55, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
Lucian (Michael Sheen) uses a blade that extends from his sleeve in an attempt to stop Selene (Kate Beckinsale) and Michael (Scott Speedman) as he pursues them. He later distracts Kraven (Shane Brolly) by stabbing him in the leg with it.
The pistol grip on the M16 appears to be lacking the finger notch which is on the A2 but not on the A1. It is difficult to be certain from the picture. This could be an A1 with A2-style handguards. Does anyone know for certain?
That's not an M16A2. The upper seems to have no forward assist, so that means it's an M16A1 upper. The lower is an SP1-style lower. It's just like this gun:
I don't remember those P99s being full autos. Excalibur01 04:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
In reality, they aren't, but in the opening scene, after Seline tosses her Beretta's for her P99's, she fires a few times, then they cut to a different character, cut back to Selene and she's firing them as if they were fully automatic. Kornflakes89 23:01, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
Modified Beretta 92FS
Additionally, are the compensators attached to Selene's Beretta 92FS are real world compensator or were the designed specifically for the film? 29 June 2009 (UTC)
dose Selene had two Beretta 92FS, two P99s, and a USP conpact on her at all times?
I don't think so. It's been awhile since I've seen the movie, but IIRC, she carried the Berettas for the first part of the movie, then switched to the Walthers once they started using the silver nitrate rounds. And she never used the USP in combat, she only used it at the mansion firing range, which being part of the mansion armory, has multiple weapons available. Guessing she just picked it up "in house" for her target shooting, it doesn't appear to be anything she carries with her regularly. DKS01 05:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Selene's Berettas do not seem to have real compensators like in Evolution, but more like covers for the extended barrels. There are no ports on top of the "covers" and the still showing Selene firing, only muzzle flash is seen and no flash upwards as with a normal compensator.
Also, she does use the P99s in combat, in the end when the vampires attack the lycan hideout. You can clearly see them when she jumps down the tunnel, and when she does a forward flip while shooting a lycan. --Jan 23:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
I never said she didn't use the P99's in combat. I said she didn't use the USP in combat. The letters "USP" look nothing like "P99" so not sure how you made that mistake. DKS01 06:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Burst 92 conversion?
Would it be possible to convert a Beretta 92FS to fire 3 round burst rather than full auto? I ask as I saw this movie the other today, and it seemed as if Selene was firing consistent 3 round bursts, and she seemed to be repeatedly "clicking" the triggers rather than holding them. Can you "drop in" a component from the 93R to do this, or is it not that simple? --commando552 20:21, 8 August 2011 (CDT)
unknown SMG?
I think the unknown SMG is a PM-63 Submachine gun. what do you guys think? --Fenris357 16:17, 08 October 2011
I agree. You can just about make out the unfolded forward grip at the top, along with the long slanted compensator. --commando552 11:49, 8 October 2011 (CDT)
To me, the back end looks too short to be a PM-63. I want to say Arsenal Shipka. Spartan198 (talk) 20:07, 14 February 2016 (EST)
Beretta Triggers
This is an image from a recent Cinemax plug for Underworld on Facebook. I was admiring the Berettas when suddenly, I noticed that the hammers were to the rear....but the triggers were still in double-action. Any explanation for this phenomenon? --ZeoRanger5 (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
My guess is it is something to do with the fact that the guns are converted to full auto. --commando552 (talk) 15:55, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
