Talk:Lone Survivor: Difference between revisions

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Non-firing prop?

Look closely at the bolt release button.

HM2 Marcus Luttrell (Mark Wahlberg) holds a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.

It almost looks molded as part of the receiver. Spartan198 (talk) 09:35, 10 November 2013 (EST)

Aren't the upper vent holes in KAC RASs supposed to actually be holes, and it's the bottom ones that have the heatshield? That trigger looks joined at the bottom, and the rest of the rifle does look rather rubbery as well. Alex T Snow (talk) 20:13, 26 December 2013 (EST)

Is there any particular reason that SEAL has a Texas flag on his body armor? Orca1 9904 (talk) 05:54, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Because He is from Texas? Photos of Marcus Luttrell in Afghanistan show that he wore a texas flag patch Insertjjs

Also in the book Luttrell mentions that his helmet had a Texas flag on the side of it, but the helmet was knocked from his head during one of his tumbles down the mountain. Also, state flags and other morale patches are VERY common among military personnel across the board. --DeltaOne (talk) 04:39, 8 January 2014 (EST)

New trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuIINk0IftU Excalibur01 (talk) 23:28, 9 December 2013 (EST)

Just Got Back

Really good. Really cringe-inducing falls though. Weapons I saw:

M249 SAW stock in the MH-47 on the ride in.

M240s are used by MH-47 door gunners

Head Taliban dude has a shiny Makarov PM that he's killed with.

A RPD and SVD/PSL are seen as the team scopes out the village, but aren't seen again.

The M203s are Cobray CM203s, the cocking lever is visible.

Probably a bunch of AK variants, but IDing those will have to wait for the DVD

Oh, MPM2008, you'll be happy. The armorer got credited in the end credits.--Mandolin (talk) 16:58, 13 January 2014 (EST)

You must be mistaken about the grenade launchers. Both these images show legit M203s by the shape and size of the trigger guard.

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 Look closely at the bolt release button.
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 :Head Taliban dude has a shiny Makarov PM that he's killed with.
 :A RPD and SVD/PSL are seen as the team scopes out the village, but aren't seen again.
+: The M203s are Cobray CM203s, the cocking lever is visible.
 Probably a bunch of AK variants, but IDing those will have to wait for the DVD
 Oh, MPM2008, you'll be happy. The armorer got credited in the end credits.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 16:58, 13 January 2014 (EST)
+You must be mistaken about the grenade launchers. Both these images show legit M203s by the shape and size of the trigger guard.
+[[File:Lonesurv-team.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A group shot showing Murphy and PO2 Danny Dietz ([[Emile Hirsch]]) with M4A1 carbines.]]
+[[File:Lonesurv-M4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Murphy aims the M4A1.]]
+[[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:29, 16 January 2014 (EST)
+:You are probably both right. It is not uncommon for replica M203s to be used for most scenes, switching to CM203s only for scenes where they are actually fired. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:42, 16 January 2014 (EST)
+::That second pic has the cocking handle notch of a CM203.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 17:02, 16 January 2014 (EST)
+:::No it doesn't. Firstly, the cocking handle is on the right side of the launcher (this shot isn't mirrored as you can see the M4 is correct). Secondly, the CM203 receiver is much simpler and blocky, lacking the diagonal profiling which is visible on this launcher. Lastly, the CM203 has a standard length barrel rather than the 9" one seen here (there may be some stock short barrelled ones or modified chopped ones, but I don't recall ever seeing one in anything). Note that the same black "slot" is visible on the magazine well, so my guess would be that this is probably a velcro strip to attach a flashlight/laser pressure switch.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:21, 16 January 2014 (EST)
+::::The black “slot” that you are seeing here is nothing more than a serial number of the weapon that they don’t wanna painted in tan color. When you camouflage you rifle/carbine, you don’t want to paint the serial number section of the gun. So most the people will keep it original by taping it before you paint, then pull it out after you finished the paint job and after a dozen of time that I’ve watched this movie, I can guarantee there is no Cobray CM203 in the movie.—[[User:PuFFie|PuFFie]] ([[User talk:PuFFie|talk]]) 3:38 29 August 2018 (GMT+7)
+==Beretta use==
+I think you're right. I saw a black stripe, figured it was the cocking slot. My bad. Also, why are the SEALs using Beretta? I thought they used SIGs.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 22:49, 16 January 2014 (EST)
+:The Berettas may be what the team carried at the time. Doing an image search of the team, all you really see in pictures is their rifles, never any sidearms. I can't find my copy of the book, but wasn't Axe found with a .45? --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 04:39, 17 January 2014 (EST)
+::I remeber Matthew Axelson using P226 during his last stand,not Beretta.--[[User:105howitzer|105howitzer]] ([[User talk:105howitzer|talk]]) 21:40, 17 January 2014 (EST)
+:::In one of the pre-credits pictures of the real guys, one of them was holding a P226 up to the camera. Seems like an odd thing to get wrong when getting a few SIGs should be really easy. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:50, 19 January 2014 (EST)
+::::[[User:105howitzer|105howitzer]], are you talking about the book or movie? Also, [[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]], the team did not carry Berettas in real life; there are pictures of them online from the time period where you can see that they have SIGs in their holsters. In fact, the picture of Murphy and Axe that appears in the end ([http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/US_Navy_050628-N-0000X-005_Navy_file_photo_of_SEAL_Lt._Michael_P._Murphy,_from_Patchogue,_N.Y.,_and_Sonar_Technician_(Surface)_2nd_Class_Matthew_G._Axelson,_of_Cupertino,_Calif.,_taken_in_Afghanistan.jpg this one]) shows that Murphy carried the issue SIG. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 22:46, 20 January 2014 (EST)
+:::::So I did some more Googling, and I found [http://brand-inentertainment.com/2013/08/644/ this link]. Maybe this is the real reason that the movie features Berettas instead of SIGs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 22:58, 20 January 2014 (EST)
+::::::I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often, but this seems to be the wrong movie to do it in. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 23:02, 20 January 2014 (EST)
+:::::::I actually find that distasteful. Especially bragging about it. --[[User:DeltaOne|DeltaOne]] ([[User talk:DeltaOne|talk]]) 02:37, 22 January 2014 (EST)
+::::::::It happens all the time, but usually, it's done when manufacturers want to promote their latest weapons, whereas the Beretta 92F (which appears in this movie) is a design that is now 30 years old and has been in thousands of productions, so it doesn't make sense to promote the 92F instead of one of Beretta's more recent pistols. And yes, one would not expect such product placement in a movie like this. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 22:40, 22 January 2014 (EST)
+:::::::::So it's official: The use of the Beretta in this movie has become a minor controversy. Everyone is using the product placement of Beretta to call the film's commitment to authenticity and patriotism into question. (See [http://soldiersystems.net/2014/02/05/beretta-m9-show-lone-survivor/ here] and [http://www.theawl.com/2014/02/how-far-beretta-will-go-to-make-you-love-guns here], for example.) -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:00, 30 December 2014 (EST)
+:::::::::::I edited the page to note that real life SEALS do have latitude as to what they can carry, even though in this case, it seems that product placement took priority over historical accuracy.  Should we highlight this controversy? I don't know how it helps the reader, but there are times when nitpicking can go too far as well :)  Opinions welcome [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 15:17, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
+::::::::::::Yeah, I see no reason not to highlight it, if only to educate the reader on the behind-the-scenes reason for this (minor) inaccuracy. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 18:00, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
+==MK11 Mod 0==
+In a photo seen during the montage at the end of the film, PO2 James Suh is seen holding a [[Knight's Armament SR-25|MK11 Mod 0 sniper rifle]].
+[[File:Knights-Armament-SR-25-Mk11-Mod-0Unsuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Knight's Armament SR-25 with Harris bipod - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
+==Additional==
+[[File:Lone4.jpg|thumb|600px|none|HM2 Marcus Luttrell ([[Mark Wahlberg]]) holds a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone21.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Matthew Axelson ([[Ben Foster]]) flips and fires a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR to kill a Taliban militant.]]
+[[File:Lone9.jpg|thumb|600px|none|HM2 Marcus Luttrell ([[Mark Wahlberg]])) moves to another position with his Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lonesurv-MK12-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Matthew Axelson ([[Ben Foster]]) fires a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone12.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Matthew Axelson ([[Ben Foster]]) reloads a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone13.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Matthew Axelson ([[Ben Foster]]) returns fire with a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone26.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Luttrell and Axelson duck behind cover with Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPRs.]]
+[[File:Lone71.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Matthew fries a Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone84.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Luttrell frees himself from the cover with the Mk. 12 Mod 1 SPR.]]
+[[File:Lone11.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Murphy dives to cover with the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lone10.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Danny Dietz ([[Emile Hirsch]]) fires the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lone14.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Danny Dietz ([[Emile Hirsch]]) fires the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lone70.jpg|thumb|600px|none|PO2 Danny Dietz fires the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lone15.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Murphy fires the M4A1 as Luttrell drags him to cover.]]
+[[File:Lone18.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Murphy fires the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lonesurv-M4-2.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Murphy aims the M4A1.]]
+[[File:Lone8.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant is shot by Luttrell while holding an AKMS.]]
+[[Image:Lone75.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Taliban fires at the recon team.]]
+[[Image:Lone50.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Villagers aim their AKMSs to prevent the Talibans from killing Luttrell.]]
+[[Image:Lone51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Villagers aim their AKMSs to prevent the Talibans from killing Luttrell.]]
+[[File:Lone74.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant aims at Danny  with his AKMS.]]
+[[File:Lone40.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant is about to shoot Danny  with his AKMS.]]
+[[Image:Lone79.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Taliban aims his AKMS.]]
+[[File:Lone78.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant fires an AKM.]]
+[[File:Lone87.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Taliban militant fires an AKM.]]
+[[Image:Lone59.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Taliban about to be wounded by the air strike.]]
+[[File:Lonesurv-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant fires an AKM.]]
+[[File:Lone19.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A militant goes down with an AKM.]]
+[[File:Lone22.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Another militant goes down with an AKM.]]
+[[File:Lone29.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Taliban is shot while holding an AKM.]]
+[[File:Lone90.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Two militants climbs up to shoot Murphy.]]
+[[File:Lone37.jpg|thumb|600px|none|A Taliban is seen firing an AKM at the SEALs.]]
+[[File:Lone39.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The militant with an AKM climbs up to shoot Murphy.]]
+[[File:Lone34.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The same militant fires an AKM.]]
+[[Image:Lone52.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Gulab ([[Ali Suliman]]) with his AKM.]]
+[[Image:Lone47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gulab ([[Ali Suliman]]) fires warning shots from his AKM to prevent the Taliban from killing Luttrell.]]
+===Still too many screencaps?===
+Is it just me, or does there still seem to be an excessive amount of images, particularly on the AKM entry? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:02, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
+== 92FS and Taylor Kitsch ==
+Hey guys, just pointing this out. Where it says for the 92FS, that it's Dietz handing the 92FS, I think it's actually Michael Murphy (Taylor Kitsch), not Hirsch.
+== NOT an NDM-86 ==
+Look at the magazine more closely.  It curves just like the SVD  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 15:14, 22 June 2017 (EDT)

Talk:Lone Survivor: Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 13:09, 20 September 2018

Non-firing prop?

New trailer

Just Got Back

Beretta use

MK11 Mod 0

Additional

Still too many screencaps?

92FS and Taylor Kitsch

NOT an NDM-86

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