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Looks like their smashing the Russian's Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine!--[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 00:47, 21 March 2011 (CDT)
Looks like their smashing the Russian's Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine!--[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 00:47, 21 March 2011 (CDT)
This may be historically correct, since the Wehrmacht widely used captured Russian weapons.--[[User:Andrey Karchikyan|Andrey Karchikyan]] 3:08, 26 July 2013 (MSK)


== Unknown pan magazine fed machinegun ==
== Unknown pan magazine fed machinegun ==
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== Soviet uniform ==
== Soviet uniform ==


Obvious error in the image of the Soviet uniform.
Obvious error in the image of the Soviet uniform.<br>
At the majority of soldiers it is possible to see dark green epaulets with a red edging.
At the majority of soldiers it is possible to see dark green epaulets with a red edging.
[[Image:Downfall PPsh41fielda.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 Submachine guns in the hands of waiting Soviet Soldiers]]
[[Image:Downfall PPsh41fielda.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 Submachine guns in the hands of waiting Soviet Soldiers]]
But in 1945 only medical officers and soldiers had dark green epaulets.
[[Image:Downfall PPsh41field02a.jpg‎ ‎|thumb|none|600px|The soldiers standing behind them are carrying PPSh-41 submachine guns.]]
The infantry had crimson epaulets with a black edging.
But in 1945 (from 1943 to 1954) only medical officers and soldiers had dark green epaulets.<br>
But in field conditions the Soviet infantry used epaulets khaki with a crimson edging.
The infantry had crimson epaulets with a black edging.<br>
Possibly costumiers of this film were mistaken and have replaced khaki on dark green.
But in field conditions the Soviet infantry used khaki epaulets with a crimson edging, like here: <br>
[[Image:Zvezda-DT.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
(screenshot from "[[Star (Zvezda), The (2002)|The Star]]" movie)<br>
Probably costumiers of this film were mistaken and used dark green instead of khaki.[[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 10:13, 19 November 2011 (CST)
 
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:: Cheers mate [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 10:13, 19 November 2011 (CST)
 
== MP40 ==
 
The MP40 is also used in the execution of SS Gruppenfuhrer Hermann Fegelein.

Latest revision as of 09:03, 6 September 2018

Moved from Main Page --Mauser 00:40, 21 March 2011 (CDT) The Sturmgewehr 44 is still being manufactured in Germany. A German firearms company is re-making the StG-44 as a new gun and selling it to civilians and collectors world wide, except for America, where the BATFE has banned its' import. That same German company also makes a new version of the classic MP40 for sale as well.

Germans smashing their 98k

From main page- at the end of the film, where surrendering German soldiers are smashing their pristine Karabiner 98k rifles against the ground prior to the arrival of the Red Army (albeit a scene which made me wince at the thought of all those beautiful guns destroyed...yeow!.)

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Maybe they traded their rifles with the Russians?


Looks like their smashing the Russian's Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine!--Mauser 00:47, 21 March 2011 (CDT)

This may be historically correct, since the Wehrmacht widely used captured Russian weapons.--Andrey Karchikyan 3:08, 26 July 2013 (MSK)

Unknown pan magazine fed machinegun

Considering that this movie is meticulously historically correct, that light machine gun is probably a stolen Russian DP or DPM. -Deafmatch 12:07, 24 March 2011 (CDT)

  • DP28, I'd say, from the way the bipod is angled towards the muzzle rather than straight and looks to be attached to the bottom of the barrel shroud rather than the top. Vangelis2 13:21, 24 March 2011 (CDT)
You're right, I changed the page. -Deafmatch 13:11, 25 March 2011 (CDT)

MG34

Is it possible that the MG34 used in the movie is in fact a mocked- up PKM because the LMG in the picture looks like one to me.-Villagefroid 18:42, September 18 2011 (CDT)

I think you've got something there. And it looks like it feeds from the right. And I know most of the outdoor scenes were done in Russia. I'll make the change. --Funkychinaman 18:09, 18 September 2011 (CDT)
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picture from the movie.
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MG34 & a PK conversion.

Soviet uniform

Obvious error in the image of the Soviet uniform.
At the majority of soldiers it is possible to see dark green epaulets with a red edging.

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PPSh-41 Submachine guns in the hands of waiting Soviet Soldiers
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The soldiers standing behind them are carrying PPSh-41 submachine guns.

But in 1945 (from 1943 to 1954) only medical officers and soldiers had dark green epaulets.
The infantry had crimson epaulets with a black edging.
But in field conditions the Soviet infantry used khaki epaulets with a crimson edging, like here:

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(screenshot from "The Star" movie)
Probably costumiers of this film were mistaken and used dark green instead of khaki.Flexo 10:13, 19 November 2011 (CST)

A note: just pressing enter once doesn't work with Wiki software, use a bullet point (: or *) or use <br> (without the nowiki tags) if you want a single line break. Pressing enter twice rather than once also works, but double-spaces everything. Edit: to demonstrate. Evil Tim 10:04, 19 November 2011 (CST)
Cheers mate Flexo 10:13, 19 November 2011 (CST)

MP40

The MP40 is also used in the execution of SS Gruppenfuhrer Hermann Fegelein.