Talk:De Lisle Carbine: Difference between revisions

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Petition to remove from "SMG" category

This weapon clearly does NOT fit the definition of a sub-machine gun. --HashiriyaR32 18:07, 15 July 2011 (CDT)

I just switched it to carbine. --Funkychinaman 18:35, 15 July 2011 (CDT)

Damn you I was going to do that. Evil Tim 18:43, 15 July 2011 (CDT)

Also switched the specs from metric to Imperial, since, let's face it, this was a weapon made in inches and pounds, not millimetres and kilos. Or the grand old days when England still used it's own measuring system. >:( Evil Tim 18:53, 15 July 2011 (CDT)

The US gets Imperial units and the UK gets Madonna. That's a trade I can live with. --Funkychinaman 00:14, 16 July 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, well we've got, um...Marmite. Yeah, that's right, we've got a strange spread made of yeast extract whose taste can only be described as "like marmite," and you can't have any. Um, so there. Evil Tim 00:46, 16 July 2011 (CDT)

You can't insult the English in written language, as you're writing in the English language. If you want to insult England in writing, do it in German. Alasdair.

Thompson mag compatible?

I read on the internet that the De Lisle was compatible with Thompson magazines. It only mentioned the 20-round one, but surely if it can fit the 20-round it can fit the 30-round as well? I know that part of the De Lisle's was adapted from a Thompson. That means you could fire 31 entirely silent rounds! Some military units don't contain that many soldiers! I now really want one. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? And I mean the vintage one, not the modern Valkyrie Arms representation. Even if the Thompson mag rumor is a myth.

First, the De Lisle carbine is a bolt-action weapon (which does make it even quieter but severely hampers its firing rate). Getting a kill with each shot from it when firing upon a group is unlikely, especially if the group is anywhere near competent. I don't know anything about magazine compatibility with this firearm, but technology has long since marched on, and quietness of that level is no longer considered necessary or practical in a military sense, which is why suppressed platforms have largely abandoned bolt-action weapons. Something much more easily obtainable that is easily suppressed would be an AR-15 chambered for subsonic .300 BLK, for instance. And besides, sniper weapons don't normally have large magazines because they would interfere with their use from a prone position, or when a bipod is deployed, because the longer magazine would protrude down too far. --Mazryonh 07:10, 14 January 2012 (CST)

Doesn't it take M1911 mags? I guess an extended M1911 mag would work. --Funkychinaman 08:55, 14 January 2012 (CST)

Correct, it will take any single stack .45 magazine that will work in a M1911. As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing about this rifle that is related to the Thompson. It is basically a silenced SMLE chambered in .45 and fed from a 1911 magazine. --commando552 09:47, 14 January 2012 (CST)

Commando552 is totally correct about the magazine well on a De Lisle carbine. it used pistol magazines only. The up side is that at the time there were 15 round extended magazines and 30 round drum magazines in existance but both of those were extremly rare. From what I have heard from people with backgrounds with British special operations the De Lisle was for removing lone sentries not mowing down entire squads of Nazi troops. For that sort of thing they had supressed Sten and Grease guns to use. Rockwolf66 03:27, 15 January 2012 (CST)

Very late, but it doesn't take a standard M1911 magazine, it has to be modified to interface with the magazine release catch on the Lee-Enfield. Evil Tim (talk) 14:58, 14 March 2018 (EDT)

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 This weapon clearly does NOT fit the definition of a sub-machine gun. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 18:07, 15 July 2011 (CDT)
+:I just switched it to carbine. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 18:35, 15 July 2011 (CDT)
+::Damn you I was going to do that. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:43, 15 July 2011 (CDT)
+Also switched the specs from metric to Imperial, since, let's face it, this was a weapon made in inches and pounds, not millimetres and kilos. Or the grand old days when England still used it's own measuring system. >:( [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:53, 15 July 2011 (CDT)
+:::The US gets Imperial units and the UK gets Madonna. That's a trade I can live with. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 00:14, 16 July 2011 (CDT)
+::::Yeah, well we've got, um...Marmite. Yeah, that's right, we've got a strange spread made of yeast extract whose taste can only be described as "like marmite," and you can't have any. Um, so there. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 00:46, 16 July 2011 (CDT)
+You can't insult the English in written language, as you're writing in the ''English'' language. If you want to insult England in writing, do it in German. Alasdair.
+== Thompson mag compatible? ==
+I read on the internet that the De Lisle was compatible with Thompson magazines. It only mentioned the 20-round one, but surely if it can fit the 20-round it can fit the 30-round as well? I know that part of the De Lisle's was adapted from a Thompson. That means you could fire 31 entirely silent rounds! Some military units don't contain that many soldiers! I now really want one. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? And I mean the vintage one, not the modern Valkyrie Arms representation. Even if the Thompson mag rumor is a myth.
+:First, the De Lisle carbine is a bolt-action weapon (which does make it even quieter but severely hampers its firing rate). Getting a kill with each shot from it when firing upon a group is unlikely, especially if the group is anywhere near competent. I don't know anything about magazine compatibility with this firearm, but technology has long since marched on, and quietness of that level is no longer considered necessary or practical in a military sense, which is why suppressed platforms have largely abandoned bolt-action weapons. Something much more easily obtainable that is easily suppressed would be an AR-15 chambered for subsonic .300 BLK, for instance. And besides, sniper weapons don't normally have large magazines because they would interfere with their use from a prone position, or when a bipod is deployed, because the longer magazine would protrude down too far. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 07:10, 14 January 2012 (CST)
+::Doesn't it take M1911 mags? I guess an extended M1911 mag would work. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:55, 14 January 2012 (CST)
+:::Correct, it will take any single stack .45 magazine that will work in a M1911. As far as I know, there is absolutely nothing about this rifle that is related to the Thompson. It is basically a silenced SMLE chambered in .45 and fed from a 1911 magazine. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 09:47, 14 January 2012 (CST)
+Commando552 is totally correct about the magazine well on a De Lisle carbine. it used pistol magazines only. The up side is that at the time there were 15 round extended magazines and 30 round drum magazines in existance but both of those were extremly rare. From what I have heard from people with backgrounds with British special operations the De Lisle was for removing lone sentries not mowing down entire squads of Nazi troops. For that sort of thing they had supressed Sten and Grease guns to use. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 03:27, 15 January 2012 (CST)
+:Very late, but it doesn't take a standard M1911 magazine, it has to be modified to interface with the magazine release catch on the Lee-Enfield. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 14:58, 14 March 2018 (EDT)

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