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[[Image:Casuaties-of-War-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Casualties of War (1989)]] | [[Image:Casuaties-of-War-poster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Casualties of War (1989)]] | ||
'''''Casualties of War''''' is a 1989 Vietnam War drama starring [[Michael J. Fox]] as a young US Army private who decides to stand up to his commanding sergeant ([[Sean Penn]]) when he and his | '''''Casualties of War''''' is a 1989 Vietnam War drama starring [[Michael J. Fox]] as a young US Army private who decides to stand up to his commanding sergeant ([[Sean Penn]]) when he and other men in his unit kidnap a Vietnamese girl with intentions to commit rape. The film was directed by [[Brian De Palma]] and was based on an actual incident during the war. | ||
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Sergeant Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) uses a fake [[XM177]], built up from an Colt Sporter II Carbine. What makes it weird is the unusual flash hider/muzzle brake which is too long for an XM177, the wrong diameter and has holes on one side only (the left side). | Sergeant Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) uses a fake [[XM177]], built up from an Colt Sporter II Carbine. What makes it weird is the unusual flash hider/muzzle brake which is too long for an XM177, the wrong diameter and has holes on one side only (the left side). | ||
[[Image:ColtM177E2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Actual XM177E2 Carbine aka Colt Model 629 - 5.56x45mm. This was the last variant of the XM177 rifle used in the Vietnam War.]] | [[Image:ColtM177E2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Actual XM177E2 Carbine aka Colt Model 629 - 5.56x45mm. This was the last variant of the XM177 rifle used in the Vietnam War.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-XM177MockupA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) carries a weird fake XM177. Here | [[Image:COW-XM177MockupA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) carries a weird fake XM177. Here the carbine looks to have an 11.5" barrel like an E2 model, but the upper and lower receiver are the M16A1 style. This weapon resembles a Sporter II Carbine that had its barrel chopped and a strange muzzle brake installed. At this angle, we can see the right side of the flash hider has no holes.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-XM177Fake02a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve | [[Image:COW-XM177Fake02a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve armed with the weird fake XM177. At this angle we can see that the left side has strange 'lightning cut' compensator holes in the side. The fact that the flash hider only had holes on one side makes it a very unusual muzzle brake.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-XM177FlashA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve fires the fake XM177. Here we can see a very strange flash coming out of the gun. After the initial flash there are no other flashes as Penn "mime fires" the carbine in 'semi automatic mode' only. Also in this night-firing shot, the strange pattern of the lopsided flash holes can be seen in this muzzle brake.]] | [[Image:COW-XM177FlashA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve fires the fake XM177. Here we can see a very strange flash coming out of the gun. After the initial flash there are no other flashes as Penn "mime fires" the carbine in 'semi automatic mode' only. Also in this night-firing shot, the strange pattern of the lopsided flash holes can be seen in this muzzle brake.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-WeirdXM177a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve carries a weird fake XM177 in daylight. Here we can clearly see the strange 'diagonal' flash holes which are on one side of the muzzle brake only.]] | [[Image:COW-WeirdXM177a.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Meserve carries a weird fake XM177 in daylight. Here we can clearly see the strange 'diagonal' flash holes which are on one side of the muzzle brake only.]] | ||
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[[File:CoW 721.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the carbine's flash hider as Eriksson holds Meserve's fake XM177.]] | [[File:CoW 721.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Closeup of the carbine's flash hider as Eriksson holds Meserve's fake XM177.]] | ||
==Type 56/ | ==Norinco Type 56 / AK-47== | ||
The Viet Cong guerrillas use both full stock and folding stock [[ | The Viet Cong guerrillas use both full stock and folding stock [[AK-47]]s (which are most probably [[Norinco Type 56]] rifles), In actuality, despite the fact that the majority of AK rifles used in the war were Chinese Type 56s, there were '''some''' original Soviet AK-47s given to the NVA who supplied them to the VC. | ||
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet ("pig sticker") - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) with under-folding bayonet ("pig sticker") - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:Type56S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56-1 (under-folding stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:COW-Type56UnderfolderA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-Type56UnderfolderA.jpg|thumb|none|602px|VC creeps forward in a tunnel, crawling by a Type 56-1 Underfolder AK.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-Type56 VCshota.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-Type56 VCshota.jpg |thumb|none|602px|VC shot as he emerges from a tunnel hole, dropping his Type 56-1.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-Type56FullStockA.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-Type56FullStockA.jpg |thumb|none|602px|A VC unloads a bundle from a boat, a full stocked AK slung on his back.]] | ||
=Machine Guns= | =Machine Guns= | ||
==M60 | ==M60== | ||
The [[M60 machine gun]] is carried by | The [[M60 machine gun]] is seen primarily carried by Corporal Thomas E. Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) in the film. However, nearly all of the members of the patrol take turns carrying and using the weapon, especially during "Mad Minute" fights. Sergeant Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) fires the M60 during the firefight on the bridge. An M60 also is seen on the PBR that encounters the bridge firefight. | ||
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 machine gun - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[Image:COW- | [[Image:COW-M60 HarveyHoldsA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CPL Thomas E. Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) carries an [[M60 machine gun]] when returning from a long range patrol.]] | ||
[[Image:COW- | [[Image:COW-MadMInuteA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Hatcher ([[John C. Reilly]]) uses the M60 during the bridge firefight.]] | ||
[[Image: | [[Image:CoW_748.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SGT Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) fires the M60 during the bridge firefight.]] | ||
[[Image:CoW_751.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the M60.]] | |||
[[Image:COW-M60A.jpg|thumb|none|601px|SGT Tony Meserve ([[Sean Penn]]) with the M60.]] | |||
[[Image:CoW_755.jpg|thumb|none|600px| An M60 also is seen on the PBR that encounters the bridge firefight.]] | |||
==M60D | ==M60D== | ||
[[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s are seen mounted on the UH-1D Hueys in the film. | [[M60 machine gun#M60D Machine Gun|M60D machine gun]]s are seen mounted on the UH-1D Hueys in the film. | ||
[[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | [[Image:M60d.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60D machine gun - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M60D2a.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Doorgunner with the spade grips M60D Machine gun.]] | [[Image:COW-M60D2a.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Doorgunner with the spade grips M60D Machine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M60Da.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Doorgunner with the spade grips M60D Machine gun.]] | [[Image:COW-M60Da.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Doorgunner with the spade grips M60D Machine gun.]] | ||
==Browning M2HB== | |||
[[Browning M2HB]]s are seen double hand mounted on the Navy PBR that encounters the firefight at the bridge. | |||
[[File:Twin M2 machine guns PBR.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Dual Browning M2HB in PBR - .50 BMG]] | |||
[[Image:CoW_767.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Browning M2HB]]s are seen double hand mounted on the Navy PBR.]] | |||
=Handguns= | =Handguns= | ||
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The standard sidearm at the time, the [[M1911A1]] is carried by all NCOs and officers and used by some Enlisted men during certain circumstances. Both CPL Thomas E. Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) and PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) are seen carrying and using the [[M1911A1]] for protection. | The standard sidearm at the time, the [[M1911A1]] is carried by all NCOs and officers and used by some Enlisted men during certain circumstances. Both CPL Thomas E. Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) and PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) are seen carrying and using the [[M1911A1]] for protection. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|War-time issued (WW2) Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]] | [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|350px|War-time issued (WW2) Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M1911A.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M1911A.jpg|thumb|none|601px|On the right, Corporal Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) fires his M1911A1 pistol.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-BeerCansA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The holstered M1911A1 is seen as PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) talks with Chaplain Kirk (Sam Robards).]] | |||
=Other= | =Other= | ||
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The [[M79 grenade launcher]] is carried by PFC Max Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]). It is notoriously seen used to blow away an incoming grenade thrown at him, which in reality did happen to PFC Max Eriksson during the Vietnam War. | The [[M79 grenade launcher]] is carried by PFC Max Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]). It is notoriously seen used to blow away an incoming grenade thrown at him, which in reality did happen to PFC Max Eriksson during the Vietnam War. | ||
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M79 grenade launcher -= 40x46mm]] | [[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M79 grenade launcher -= 40x46mm]] | ||
[[Image:FoxVest.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Production image of Erikkson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) carrying the M79 Grenade Launcher. It should be noted that Erikkson's grenade vest appears to be made out of the external liner of a flak vest M1952-A with some pouches of M79 bandolier sewn on it. This was likely done because during the '80s it was | [[Image:FoxVest.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Production image of Erikkson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) carrying the M79 Grenade Launcher. It should be noted that Erikkson's grenade vest appears to be made out of the external liner of a flak vest M1952-A with some pouches of M79 bandolier sewn on it. This was likely done because during the '80s it was difficult to obtain an original "Vest, Carrier, Grande, M-79" or a "Vest, Ammunition, Carrying", model issued after the war which was similar to the one used in Vietnam. However, in 1966, year of the incident on Hill 192, the M79 vest wasn't available, except for a few models of its previous experimental vest. In this picture of the first night mission in the jungle, the customized M1952 vest can be seen between the harness, paradoxically worn on a M1955 flak vest (wrongly because this vest was used only by Marines). There is a possibility that the vest build for the film has been recreated in this unusual way to resemble the experiamental vest that mentioned above.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M79 FoxA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M79 FoxA.jpg|thumb|none|602px|PFC Eriksson with his M79 Grenade Launcher.]] | ||
[[Image:COW 272.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Erikkson's custom grenade vest.]] | [[Image:COW 272.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Erikkson's custom grenade vest.]] | ||
[[Image:COW 293.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Another view of Erikkson with the custom vest.]] | [[Image:COW 293.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Another view of Erikkson with the custom vest.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M79a.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M79a.jpg |thumb|none|601px|PFC Max Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) fires his M79 Grenade Launcher at an incoming grenade and hits it.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M79 DonHarveyA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M79 DonHarveyA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|CPL Thomas E. Clark ([[Don Harvey]]) carries the M79 later in the film, as many of the squad members swap weapons during battles.]] | ||
==M26 Hand Grenade== | ==M26 Hand Grenade== | ||
An unseen perpetrator uses an [[M26 hand grenade]] to attempt to blow up PFC Max Eriksson in the Latrine. | An unseen perpetrator uses an [[M26 hand grenade]] to attempt to blow up PFC Max Eriksson in the Enlisted Men's Latrine. | ||
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M26 "Lemon" hand grenade.]] | [[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M26 "Lemon" hand grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M67-GrenadeA.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M67-GrenadeA.jpg |thumb|none|601px|An unidentified hand holds an M26 while lying in wait for Eriksson. Why the perpetrator chooses to wear the yellow chamois gloves (issued to M60 gunners along with their asbestos mitt) is unknown - Avoiding fingerprints on a grenade that is about to be detonated would be pointless.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M67GrenadeLatrineA.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M67GrenadeLatrineA.jpg |thumb|none|601px|Eriksson sees the M26 Grenade at the last moment. Note that this grenade has an unusually shiny off color bright green paint job, and no lot nor armory markings.]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M67ExplosionA.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M67ExplosionA.jpg |thumb|none|601px|The EM latrine explodes. Hollywood's gift to the public, standard Fragmentation grenades that explode like howitzer rounds. Actual live grenades (in military service) don't have the power to obliterate an entire building.]] | ||
==M29 81mm Mortar== | ==M29 81mm Mortar== | ||
[[M29 Mortar]]s are seen in the fire base in the background and are featured when the VC use captured ones for an attack. | [[M29 Mortar]]s are seen in the fire base in the background and are featured when the VC use captured ones for an attack. | ||
[[Image:M29 mortar.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M29 Mortar - 81mm]] | [[Image:M29 mortar.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M29 Mortar - 81mm]] | ||
[[Image:COW-MortarA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-MortarA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|VC use a captured U.S. M29 81mm Mortar in one of their attacks.]] | ||
==M72A1 LAW Rocket== | ==M72A1 LAW Rocket== | ||
[[M72 LAW|M72A1 LAW Rockets]] are seen slung on the backs of U.S. Soldiers during marches or massing scenes. Also seen being uncrated by VC who are sorting captured weapons. | [[M72 LAW|M72A1 LAW Rockets]] are seen slung on the backs of U.S. Soldiers during marches or massing scenes. Also seen being uncrated by VC who are sorting captured weapons. | ||
[[Image:M72_law.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M72 LAW - 66mm]] | [[Image:M72_law.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M72 LAW - 66mm]] | ||
[[Image:COW-M72LAWA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-M72LAWA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|VC guerrilla uncrates a captured box of M72A1 LAW rockets.]] | ||
=Trivia Special= | =Trivia Special= | ||
==Base Camp Wolf== | ==Base Camp Wolf== | ||
In the days before CGI, filmmakers had to build the massive sets and use actors (not CGI composites) to populate those sets. In this film, Base Camp Wolf is an impressive and massive Army encampment with many REAL UH-1D Huey Helicopters taking off and landing every few minutes. | In the days before CGI, filmmakers had to build the massive sets and use actors (not CGI composites) to populate those sets. In this film, Base Camp Wolf is an impressive and massive Army encampment with many REAL UH-1D Huey Helicopters taking off and landing every few minutes. | ||
[[Image:COW-Basecamp-WolfA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-Basecamp-WolfA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Impressive shot of Base Camp Wolf as a Huey Helicopter Lands.]] | ||
==Period Beer Cans== | ==Period Beer Cans== | ||
Kudos to the Art Designer/Prop Master for coming up with period Beer Cans. PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) sits at a bar with a bunch of empty Budweiser cans. Despite being a wee bit too large for the beer cans of the day, they are the '''correct''' straight side, removable tab beer cans that existed in the 1960s. | Kudos to the Art Designer/Prop Master for coming up with period Beer Cans. PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) sits at a bar with a bunch of empty Budweiser cans. Despite being a wee bit too large for the beer cans of the day, they are the '''correct''' straight side, removable tab beer cans that existed in the 1960s. | ||
[[Image:COW-BeerCansA.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COW-BeerCansA.jpg|thumb|none|601px|PFC Eriksson ([[Michael J. Fox]]) talks with Chaplain Kirk (Sam Robards) as he downs another Budweiser. The cans and designs are correct for the 1960s, in contrast to the tapered aluminum drink cans used from the 1970s to today.]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:22, 6 November 2017
Casualties of War is a 1989 Vietnam War drama starring Michael J. Fox as a young US Army private who decides to stand up to his commanding sergeant (Sean Penn) when he and other men in his unit kidnap a Vietnamese girl with intentions to commit rape. The film was directed by Brian De Palma and was based on an actual incident during the war.
The following weapons were used in the film Casualties of War:
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Rifles
M16A1
The M16A1 rifle is standard issue amongst all of the soldiers seen in the film. In Eriksson's squad, the members cross utilize the different weapons from time to time, usually manning a weapon when another is reloading, or injured.
Fake Colt XM177 Commando
Sergeant Tony Meserve (Sean Penn) uses a fake XM177, built up from an Colt Sporter II Carbine. What makes it weird is the unusual flash hider/muzzle brake which is too long for an XM177, the wrong diameter and has holes on one side only (the left side).
Norinco Type 56 / AK-47
The Viet Cong guerrillas use both full stock and folding stock AK-47s (which are most probably Norinco Type 56 rifles), In actuality, despite the fact that the majority of AK rifles used in the war were Chinese Type 56s, there were some original Soviet AK-47s given to the NVA who supplied them to the VC.
Machine Guns
M60
The M60 machine gun is seen primarily carried by Corporal Thomas E. Clark (Don Harvey) in the film. However, nearly all of the members of the patrol take turns carrying and using the weapon, especially during "Mad Minute" fights. Sergeant Meserve (Sean Penn) fires the M60 during the firefight on the bridge. An M60 also is seen on the PBR that encounters the bridge firefight.
M60D
M60D machine guns are seen mounted on the UH-1D Hueys in the film.
Browning M2HB
Browning M2HBs are seen double hand mounted on the Navy PBR that encounters the firefight at the bridge.
Handguns
M1911A1
The standard sidearm at the time, the M1911A1 is carried by all NCOs and officers and used by some Enlisted men during certain circumstances. Both CPL Thomas E. Clark (Don Harvey) and PFC Eriksson (Michael J. Fox) are seen carrying and using the M1911A1 for protection.
Other
M79 grenade launcher
The M79 grenade launcher is carried by PFC Max Eriksson (Michael J. Fox). It is notoriously seen used to blow away an incoming grenade thrown at him, which in reality did happen to PFC Max Eriksson during the Vietnam War.
M26 Hand Grenade
An unseen perpetrator uses an M26 hand grenade to attempt to blow up PFC Max Eriksson in the Enlisted Men's Latrine.
M29 81mm Mortar
M29 Mortars are seen in the fire base in the background and are featured when the VC use captured ones for an attack.
M72A1 LAW Rocket
M72A1 LAW Rockets are seen slung on the backs of U.S. Soldiers during marches or massing scenes. Also seen being uncrated by VC who are sorting captured weapons.
Trivia Special
Base Camp Wolf
In the days before CGI, filmmakers had to build the massive sets and use actors (not CGI composites) to populate those sets. In this film, Base Camp Wolf is an impressive and massive Army encampment with many REAL UH-1D Huey Helicopters taking off and landing every few minutes.
Period Beer Cans
Kudos to the Art Designer/Prop Master for coming up with period Beer Cans. PFC Eriksson (Michael J. Fox) sits at a bar with a bunch of empty Budweiser cans. Despite being a wee bit too large for the beer cans of the day, they are the correct straight side, removable tab beer cans that existed in the 1960s.