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The revolver isn't Anaconda, it lacks vent rib. Pistols, as for me, have Beretta-style outlook with open-top slide. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:00, 19 March 2017 (EDT) | The revolver isn't Anaconda, it lacks vent rib. Pistols, as for me, have Beretta-style outlook with open-top slide. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:00, 19 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
:Maybe revolver is [[Colt King Cobra]]? Also, may the pistols beeng the Makarov PM or the Ukrainian ''Viy'' variant. The Makarov pistol doesn't used by Ukrainian police, but is videly avalible in this country. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:47, 19 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:: Definitely not an Anaconda, not big enough and more than that, they are stainless only. No vent rib rules out a Python also - I concur with the King Cobra ID there. I also agree the pistol does have a Makarov look overall. It certainly isn't a Fort-12 in any event. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 20:53, 19 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::It's a bit small to be a King Cobra, isn't it? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:22, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::And more importantly, I don't think I see a Colt-style cylinder latch. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 08:24, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::::It's not about being small (the King Cobra is available in a 4" barrel after all), but the trigger guard definitely doesn't match it. I'd say it's more of a Ruger revolver. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 08:34, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
::::::I doubt it's any American revolvers, given that it a Ukrainian production and thus it's pretty unlikely that it would have any revolvers, especially rarer ones like the Colt King Cobra. I doubt it that it's a Ruger, the trigger guard doesn't look like any Ruger revolver. I'm thinking that it's a Turkish Zoraki R1 blank fire only revolver, it'd be more economical for the film production, plus it looks very similar to a S&W. -- [[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 08:47, 20 March 2017 (EST) | |||
::::::: Really couldn't tell the latch style.. Indeed tough to tell any details on the frame. The overall style made me think a Colt rather than any S&W (different sights and no firing pin on hammer) or Ruger (no humped frame and underlug isn't exactly right), though I agree what detals are discernible aren't those of Colts either, trigger guard definitely is off. Something more local as PaperCake suggested seems most likely. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:12, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:I uploaded a few more screenshots. Maybe, this revolver is [[EKOL Viper]]? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:13, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Ekol Viper 4,5 Black 4mm Flobert.jpg|thumb|300px|none|EKOL Viper, 4.5" barrel - 4mm Flobert blanks]] | |||
[[Image:SELFIEPARTY revolver 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:SELFIEPARTY revolver 11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[Image:SELFIEPARTY revolver 12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
:The caliber, as it is seen in the cylinder, looks too small for a real gun but 4mm Flober may fit. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:28, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
::If it's possible, I tries to count the number of the chambers of cylinder. But, I don't know it's number of EKOL viper. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:08, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:::I believe it's just as PaperCake says, a [http://www.zbrane-vzduchovky.cz/show-original.php?zb=7474&lang=en Zoraki R1]. It has the sights of [http://www.afg-defense.eu/sub/afg.sk/images/shop-active-images/rv009b.jpg this version] of the gun.-[[User:SeptemberJack|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack|talk]]) 18:26, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:So, how do you think, is it [[EKOL Viper]] or blued Zoraki R1? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 07:04, 21 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
[[Image:Ekol Viper 4,5 Black 4mm Flobert.jpg|thumb|300px|none|EKOL Viper, 4.5" barrel - 4mm Flobert blanks]] | |||
[[Image:Zoraki R1 blued.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Zoraki R1 blued]] | |||
Zoraki has vent rib, that doesn't match the screen gun. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:20, 21 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:Both the Zoraki and the Ekol have "vented" sight ribs, so that can't be used for an ID. However, I believe that on the Zoraki the holes do not actually go all the way through and are just indents on either side. This may also be the case on some Ekols, but not sure about that as I have found images of them that seem to show them going clear through the gun. The two guns are very similar, however some but not all Zorakis (our stock image does) have a step on the top-strap of the frame just behind the barrel join, which appears to be present on the film gun most visible in this image:[[ File:SELFIEPARTY revolver 6.jpg |thumb|600px|none|]]--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:08, 21 March 2017 (EDT) |
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The revolver isn't Anaconda, it lacks vent rib. Pistols, as for me, have Beretta-style outlook with open-top slide. Greg-Z (talk) 16:00, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
- Maybe revolver is Colt King Cobra? Also, may the pistols beeng the Makarov PM or the Ukrainian Viy variant. The Makarov pistol doesn't used by Ukrainian police, but is videly avalible in this country. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:47, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
- Definitely not an Anaconda, not big enough and more than that, they are stainless only. No vent rib rules out a Python also - I concur with the King Cobra ID there. I also agree the pistol does have a Makarov look overall. It certainly isn't a Fort-12 in any event. StanTheMan (talk) 20:53, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
- It's a bit small to be a King Cobra, isn't it? --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:22, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- And more importantly, I don't think I see a Colt-style cylinder latch. --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:24, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- It's not about being small (the King Cobra is available in a 4" barrel after all), but the trigger guard definitely doesn't match it. I'd say it's more of a Ruger revolver. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:34, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- And more importantly, I don't think I see a Colt-style cylinder latch. --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:24, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- It's a bit small to be a King Cobra, isn't it? --Funkychinaman (talk) 08:22, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- Definitely not an Anaconda, not big enough and more than that, they are stainless only. No vent rib rules out a Python also - I concur with the King Cobra ID there. I also agree the pistol does have a Makarov look overall. It certainly isn't a Fort-12 in any event. StanTheMan (talk) 20:53, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
- I doubt it's any American revolvers, given that it a Ukrainian production and thus it's pretty unlikely that it would have any revolvers, especially rarer ones like the Colt King Cobra. I doubt it that it's a Ruger, the trigger guard doesn't look like any Ruger revolver. I'm thinking that it's a Turkish Zoraki R1 blank fire only revolver, it'd be more economical for the film production, plus it looks very similar to a S&W. -- PaperCake 08:47, 20 March 2017 (EST)
- Really couldn't tell the latch style.. Indeed tough to tell any details on the frame. The overall style made me think a Colt rather than any S&W (different sights and no firing pin on hammer) or Ruger (no humped frame and underlug isn't exactly right), though I agree what detals are discernible aren't those of Colts either, trigger guard definitely is off. Something more local as PaperCake suggested seems most likely. StanTheMan (talk) 14:12, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- I doubt it's any American revolvers, given that it a Ukrainian production and thus it's pretty unlikely that it would have any revolvers, especially rarer ones like the Colt King Cobra. I doubt it that it's a Ruger, the trigger guard doesn't look like any Ruger revolver. I'm thinking that it's a Turkish Zoraki R1 blank fire only revolver, it'd be more economical for the film production, plus it looks very similar to a S&W. -- PaperCake 08:47, 20 March 2017 (EST)
- I uploaded a few more screenshots. Maybe, this revolver is EKOL Viper? Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:13, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- The caliber, as it is seen in the cylinder, looks too small for a real gun but 4mm Flober may fit. Greg-Z (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- If it's possible, I tries to count the number of the chambers of cylinder. But, I don't know it's number of EKOL viper. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:08, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- I believe it's just as PaperCake says, a Zoraki R1. It has the sights of this version of the gun.-SeptemberJack (talk) 18:26, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- If it's possible, I tries to count the number of the chambers of cylinder. But, I don't know it's number of EKOL viper. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:08, 20 March 2017 (EDT)
- So, how do you think, is it EKOL Viper or blued Zoraki R1? Pyramid Silent (talk) 07:04, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
Zoraki has vent rib, that doesn't match the screen gun. Greg-Z (talk) 12:20, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
- Both the Zoraki and the Ekol have "vented" sight ribs, so that can't be used for an ID. However, I believe that on the Zoraki the holes do not actually go all the way through and are just indents on either side. This may also be the case on some Ekols, but not sure about that as I have found images of them that seem to show them going clear through the gun. The two guns are very similar, however some but not all Zorakis (our stock image does) have a step on the top-strap of the frame just behind the barrel join, which appears to be present on the film gun most visible in this image:--commando552 (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2017 (EDT)