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:At first I was wondering if there was even a process to regain US citizenship after renouncing it, but it appears Oswald never actually did renounce his US citizenship. And even though he offered to reveal info on the USMC radars he had worked on, it looks like he never really did. So other than some really bizarre and suspicious behavior, I'm not sure he actually committed any crimes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:35, 31 January 2013 (EST) | :At first I was wondering if there was even a process to regain US citizenship after renouncing it, but it appears Oswald never actually did renounce his US citizenship. And even though he offered to reveal info on the USMC radars he had worked on, it looks like he never really did. So other than some really bizarre and suspicious behavior, I'm not sure he actually committed any crimes. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 11:35, 31 January 2013 (EST) | ||
::Yes that is a possibility. But if the Federal government was hounding people for just being friends with communists why was Oswald allowed to just go on his merry way with his Russian wife after he returned. Once again no theory here, but it is strange. I guess it just might be an example of how screwed up a bureaucracy can be and he just slipped through the cracks. But when I look at his situation I can't help but wonder if maybe he was playing a role in some kind of setup. That perhaps he was really the fall-guy. That's as far as I can go with the JFK festival.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 17:08, 31 January 2013 (EST) | ::Yes that is a possibility. But if the Federal government was hounding people for just being friends with communists why was Oswald allowed to just go on his merry way with his Russian wife after he returned. Once again no theory here, but it is strange. I guess it just might be an example of how screwed up a bureaucracy can be and he just slipped through the cracks. But when I look at his situation I can't help but wonder if maybe he was playing a role in some kind of setup. That perhaps he was really the fall-guy. That's as far as I can go with the JFK festival.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 17:08, 31 January 2013 (EST) | ||
::Plus he was a Private, so any information he might have had would have already been known to the Russians. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:37, 6 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Oh by the way. Evidently I was wrong. Oswald's father-in-law wasn't a general he was a colonel and according to the rather unpleasent poster over on the Carcano page not involved with the missle command. So I am sorry. Truth be told I didn't look it up. I was going off of memory and that just shows that memory is very unreliable.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 17:29, 31 January 2013 (EST) | :Oh by the way. Evidently I was wrong. Oswald's father-in-law wasn't a general he was a colonel and according to the rather unpleasent poster over on the Carcano page not involved with the missle command. So I am sorry. Truth be told I didn't look it up. I was going off of memory and that just shows that memory is very unreliable.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 17:29, 31 January 2013 (EST) | ||
::Well, if you're going to root out communists, it makes sense to target the ones with power and influence, like the ones in Hollywood and the ones allegedly in the government. Oswald appears to be a nobody. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 19:14, 31 January 2013 (EST) | |||
:::And this was AFTER the McCarthy trials and AFTER McCarthy was censured, when the Red Scare had largely subsided. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 23:37, 6 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
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I'm not sure what these firearms are. Please help ID. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:29, 6 March 2013 (EST) | |||
:They look like Johnson machine guns, can't really tell with my eyes if they are 1941 or 1944 models. [[User:The Kaptain|The Kaptain]] ([[User talk:The Kaptain|talk]]) 18:44, 6 March 2013 (EST) | |||
::They are Johnson M1941s. You can tell by the fact they have bipods rather than monopods, and the shorter handguard. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:07, 6 March 2013 (EST) | |||
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Oswald
I put this on the Carcano discussion page, but what the hell. I'll repost it here as well.
In all seriousness there is one thing about Oswald that has always bugged me. In the 1950's the U.S. government was busy destroying people who had dated girls who got them to go to a Communist party meeting in the 1930's when they were in college. We know that those young guys didn't give a shit about the Communists. They were just wanting to have sex and would have gone to a Tupperware meeting if they thought that was what it would take. Nevertheless twenty years later those same guys are getting destroyed by McCarthy and HCUAC. They were going after janitors who might have known somebody who once expressed sympathies for the Communists for crying out loud. It was a witch hunt after all. Unreasoning and dangerous.
So then we have Oswald who defects to the Soviet Union during this time period and then returns a few years later married to the daughter of a Soviet general.A soviet general who was a big shot in their missile command! And what happens to him? Nothing. He's free, no prison time, no trials for treason, his wife isn't detained (evidently) buying guns and handing out all types of bizzaro literature on the streets of New Orleans and hanging out with half-baked revolutionaries. Huh? I don't claim to have a handle on any type of conspiracy regarding the assassination, but doesn't that whole Oswald situation strike anybody as being really strange? All out of step with what was happening in the United States in the 1950's. That's my one major observation.--Jcordell (talk) 11:21, 31 January 2013 (EST)
- At first I was wondering if there was even a process to regain US citizenship after renouncing it, but it appears Oswald never actually did renounce his US citizenship. And even though he offered to reveal info on the USMC radars he had worked on, it looks like he never really did. So other than some really bizarre and suspicious behavior, I'm not sure he actually committed any crimes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:35, 31 January 2013 (EST)
- Yes that is a possibility. But if the Federal government was hounding people for just being friends with communists why was Oswald allowed to just go on his merry way with his Russian wife after he returned. Once again no theory here, but it is strange. I guess it just might be an example of how screwed up a bureaucracy can be and he just slipped through the cracks. But when I look at his situation I can't help but wonder if maybe he was playing a role in some kind of setup. That perhaps he was really the fall-guy. That's as far as I can go with the JFK festival.--Jcordell (talk) 17:08, 31 January 2013 (EST)
- Plus he was a Private, so any information he might have had would have already been known to the Russians. --Maxman (talk) 23:37, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
- Oh by the way. Evidently I was wrong. Oswald's father-in-law wasn't a general he was a colonel and according to the rather unpleasent poster over on the Carcano page not involved with the missle command. So I am sorry. Truth be told I didn't look it up. I was going off of memory and that just shows that memory is very unreliable.--Jcordell (talk) 17:29, 31 January 2013 (EST)
- Well, if you're going to root out communists, it makes sense to target the ones with power and influence, like the ones in Hollywood and the ones allegedly in the government. Oswald appears to be a nobody. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:14, 31 January 2013 (EST)
Please help ID
I'm not sure what these firearms are. Please help ID. --Ben41 (talk) 18:29, 6 March 2013 (EST)
- They look like Johnson machine guns, can't really tell with my eyes if they are 1941 or 1944 models. The Kaptain (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2013 (EST)
- They are Johnson M1941s. You can tell by the fact they have bipods rather than monopods, and the shorter handguard. --commando552 (talk) 19:07, 6 March 2013 (EST)
