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[[Image:Russian-Kovrov-Arsenal-flare-pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Russian Kovrov Arsenal flare pistol - 26.5mm Flares]] | |||
[[Image:AL-1 Line Thrower.jpg|thumb|400px|none|AL-1 Line Thrower, based on SPSh Flare Pistol, - 90 mm]] | |||
==Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol?== | ==Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol?== | ||
Isn't this the same flare gun? | Isn't this the same flare gun? | ||
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: Yes, it's the same one. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 00:44, 20 November 2011 (CST) | : Yes, it's the same one. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 00:44, 20 November 2011 (CST) | ||
::WHy the difference in names? The Flare gun, btw, is sold all over the U.S. as the (russian imported) Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol. Is that wrong? It also shows up in other places on IMFDB. Anyone who has a better understanding of the history of this flare pistol, please help us on the gun's page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:54, 20 November 2011 (CST) | ::WHy the difference in names? The Flare gun, btw, is sold all over the U.S. as the (russian imported) Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol. Is that wrong? It also shows up in other places on IMFDB. Anyone who has a better understanding of the history of this flare pistol, please help us on the gun's page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 12:54, 20 November 2011 (CST) | ||
::: SPSh is its official name that means "Signalny Pistolet Shpagina" - flare pistol designed by Shpagin. It was put in service in 1943 and used from that time in Soviet and Russian army and in armies of other states until today (it was modified at least once). Kovrov Arsenal produced this flare pistols and put its "trademark" on them. That's why SPSh it better known over the world as Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol (the same thing as with some other Cold War era weapons). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST) P.S. Sorry for my poor English. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST) | |||
::::Also this flare gun is sold under a different name (the Polish version which is identical) and the Czech version (called the S.H.E. 82). I would dare guess that most of the appearances of this flare gun in American productions can be any one of the various Warsaw Pact versions that have been for sale here for the last 20 years. I will try to get pics of the other variations, but other than the manufacturer and model markings, they are identical. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 14:31, 25 November 2011 (CST) |
Latest revision as of 07:37, 12 March 2016
Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol?
Isn't this the same flare gun?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Beast_of_War,_The#Russian_Kovrov_Arsenal_flare_pistol
- Yes, it's the same one. Greg-Z 00:44, 20 November 2011 (CST)
- WHy the difference in names? The Flare gun, btw, is sold all over the U.S. as the (russian imported) Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol. Is that wrong? It also shows up in other places on IMFDB. Anyone who has a better understanding of the history of this flare pistol, please help us on the gun's page. MoviePropMaster2008 12:54, 20 November 2011 (CST)
- SPSh is its official name that means "Signalny Pistolet Shpagina" - flare pistol designed by Shpagin. It was put in service in 1943 and used from that time in Soviet and Russian army and in armies of other states until today (it was modified at least once). Kovrov Arsenal produced this flare pistols and put its "trademark" on them. That's why SPSh it better known over the world as Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol (the same thing as with some other Cold War era weapons). Greg-Z 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST) P.S. Sorry for my poor English. Greg-Z 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST)
- Also this flare gun is sold under a different name (the Polish version which is identical) and the Czech version (called the S.H.E. 82). I would dare guess that most of the appearances of this flare gun in American productions can be any one of the various Warsaw Pact versions that have been for sale here for the last 20 years. I will try to get pics of the other variations, but other than the manufacturer and model markings, they are identical. :) MoviePropMaster2008 14:31, 25 November 2011 (CST)
- SPSh is its official name that means "Signalny Pistolet Shpagina" - flare pistol designed by Shpagin. It was put in service in 1943 and used from that time in Soviet and Russian army and in armies of other states until today (it was modified at least once). Kovrov Arsenal produced this flare pistols and put its "trademark" on them. That's why SPSh it better known over the world as Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol (the same thing as with some other Cold War era weapons). Greg-Z 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST) P.S. Sorry for my poor English. Greg-Z 13:10, 20 November 2011 (CST)
- WHy the difference in names? The Flare gun, btw, is sold all over the U.S. as the (russian imported) Kovrov Arsenal Flare pistol. Is that wrong? It also shows up in other places on IMFDB. Anyone who has a better understanding of the history of this flare pistol, please help us on the gun's page. MoviePropMaster2008 12:54, 20 November 2011 (CST)