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Ominae at 18:28, 4 February 2023

2023-02-04T18:28:20Z

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	One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer, and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.		One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer, and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.
	[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]		[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
	[[~~Image~~:~~WA490 4 mark~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|~~Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film~~.]]		[[File:JH Colt Longslide pistol.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James Hoag Colt Longslide.]]
	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1, before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1, before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]

Jcordell: /* Trivia */

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Trivia

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	[[Category:Movie]]		[[Category:Movie]]
	[[Category:Crime]]		[[Category:Crime]]
			[[Category:Drama]]
	[[Category:Michael Mann]]		[[Category:Michael Mann]]

PyramidHead at 02:21, 25 January 2021

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 '''''Thief''''' is the 1981 crime film that marked the feature film directorial debut of [[Michael Mann]].  The crime thriller stars [[James Caan]] as Frank, an experienced free-lance jewel thief who is convinced to perform high level jobs for a Chicago mobster. Mann, who would go on to direct such crime films as ''[[Heat]]'' and ''[[Collateral]]'', brought to this film a level of attention to detail, especially in firearms, rarely seen in Hollywood productions at the time.
+{{Film Title|Thief}}
 =Pistols=

KINKI'boy: /* Ithaca 37 */

2015-05-12T08:19:53Z

Ithaca 37

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	==Ithaca 37==		==Ithaca 37==
	Sgt. Urizzi ([[John Santucci]]) is seen armed with an [[Ithaca 37]] Shotgun when he pulls over Frank ([[James Caan]]). [[John Santucci]]'s role as a police officer in the film is contradictory as to what he was in real life, a former thief. In addition to being a technical advisor for the film, most of the tools used by Frank ([[James Caan]]) to crack the safes were his; in fact, at one point in his criminal career he was actually arrested by [[Dennis Farina]] while the latter was working with the Chicago PD.		Sgt. Urizzi ([[John Santucci]]) is seen armed with an [[Ithaca 37]] Shotgun when he pulls over Frank ([[James Caan]]). [[John Santucci]]'s role as a police officer in the film is contradictory as to what he was in real life, a former thief. In addition to being a technical advisor for the film, most of the tools used by Frank ([[James Caan]]) to crack the safes were his; in fact, at one point in his criminal career he was actually arrested by [[Dennis Farina]] while the latter was working with the Chicago PD.
	[[Image:~~IthacaModel37~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge.]]		[[Image:Ithaca37 DSPS.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Ithaca 37 Deer Slayer Police Special - 12 gauge.]]
	[[Image:Thief-870.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Urizzi holds an Ithaca 37 Shotgun on Frank.]]		[[Image:Thief-870.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Urizzi holds an Ithaca 37 Shotgun on Frank.]]

Ben41: /* High Standard Model 10 */

2015-02-21T12:54:29Z

High Standard Model 10

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	[[Image:Thief-HS10-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Carl fires his High Standard Model 10 at Barry.]]		[[Image:Thief-HS10-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Carl fires his High Standard Model 10 at Barry.]]
	[[Image:Thief-HS10-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Carl ([[Dennis Farina]]) with his High Standard Model 10 outside Leo's home.]]		[[Image:Thief-HS10-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Carl ([[Dennis Farina]]) with his High Standard Model 10 outside Leo's home.]]
	[[Image:Thief-HS10-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~601px~~\|Closeup of the High Standard Model 10.]]		[[Image:Thief-HS10-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Closeup of the High Standard Model 10.]]

	==Ithaca 37==		==Ithaca 37==

Ben41: /* Colt Combat Commander */

2015-02-21T12:53:33Z

Colt Combat Commander

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	[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~601px~~\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]		[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
	[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]		[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
	[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]		[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]

Ben41: /* Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1 */

2015-02-21T12:51:48Z

Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1

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	[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]		[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
	[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]		[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]
	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|~~601px~~\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~601px~~\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
	[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]		[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]
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	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo. This is the first movie that director [[Michael Mann]] would have a character perform the "Mozambique Drill" or "Failure Drill", meaning two in the sternum, and one in the head.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo. This is the first movie that director [[Michael Mann]] would have a character perform the "Mozambique Drill" or "Failure Drill", meaning two in the sternum, and one in the head.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide5.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide5.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.]]
	[[Image:Thief_reload.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank loading in a fresh magazine.]]		[[Image:Thief_reload.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank loading in a fresh magazine.]]

	==Colt Combat Commander==		==Colt Combat Commander==

Ben41: /* Colt Combat Commander */

2014-03-25T08:49:52Z

Colt Combat Commander

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	[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]		[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
	[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]		[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
	[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]		[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]

Ben41: /* Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1 */

2014-03-25T08:48:50Z

Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1

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	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
			[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when Caan is seen in Leo's home. In the DVD commentary, [[James Caan]] recalled the extensive training he received in clearing rooms.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when Caan is seen in Leo's home. In the DVD commentary, [[James Caan]] recalled the extensive training he received in clearing rooms.]]

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	One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer, and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.		One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer, and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.
	[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]		[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
	[[~~Image~~:~~WA490 4 mark~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|~~Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film~~.]]		[[File:JH Colt Longslide pistol.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|James Hoag Colt Longslide.]]
	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1, before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1, before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]

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	[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~601px~~\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]		[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
	[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]		[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
	[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]		[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]

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	[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]		[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
	[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]		[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]
	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|~~601px~~\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~601px~~\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
	[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]		[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]
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	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo. This is the first movie that director [[Michael Mann]] would have a character perform the "Mozambique Drill" or "Failure Drill", meaning two in the sternum, and one in the head.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo. This is the first movie that director [[Michael Mann]] would have a character perform the "Mozambique Drill" or "Failure Drill", meaning two in the sternum, and one in the head.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide5.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide5.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.]]
	[[Image:Thief_reload.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank loading in a fresh magazine.]]		[[Image:Thief_reload.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank loading in a fresh magazine.]]

	==Colt Combat Commander==		==Colt Combat Commander==

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	[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]		[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
	[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]		[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
	[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]		[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]

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	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|601px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
			[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]
	[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]		[[Image:Thief_longslide1.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Best view of Frank's ([[James Caan]]) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when Caan is seen in Leo's home. In the DVD commentary, [[James Caan]] recalled the extensive training he received in clearing rooms.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when Caan is seen in Leo's home. In the DVD commentary, [[James Caan]] recalled the extensive training he received in clearing rooms.]]

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	=Pistols=		=Pistols=
	==Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1==		==Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1==
	One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.		One of the guns used by the main character, Frank ([[James Caan]]), is a 6" long slide [[M1911A1]] pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer, and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.
	[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]		[[Image:ColtMKIV-Series-70-GCNM.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.]]
	[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]		[[Image:WA490 4 mark.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.]]
	[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1~~. Before~~ going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]		[[Image:Thief_brass_chk.jpg\|thumb\|602px\|none\|Frank ([[James Caan]]) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1, before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.]]
	[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]		[[Image:Thief-1911LS-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|602px\|Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.]]
	[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]		[[Image:Thief 506.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|The business end of Frank's pistol. This particular angle appears to be a signature [[Michael Mann]] shot, as similar shots were seen in ''[[Manhunter]]'' and ''[[Heat]]''.]]
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	==Colt Combat Commander==		==Colt Combat Commander==
	When Frank ([[James Caan]]) first goes to visit Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) about his money, a [[Colt Commander]] is seen in the hidden compartment of the door panel. In one brief scene, Frank flashes the Colt Combat Commander at a nightclub bouncer played by a young [[William Petersen]]. Frank is later seen with at his car lot when he is looking for Barry ([[James Belushi]]). But he is unable to use it because he gets knocked out by a mobster with an M1 Carbine. It looks like the stainless model, but I don't think stainless ~~CC's~~ were available in 1980, so it's probably a chromed finish. It has a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, and custom skeletonized hammer. Even though the entire pistol cannot be seen, due to the crease in Frank's waistband and the shadow it casts, it appears to be the shorter slide of a Combat Commander.		When Frank ([[James Caan]]) first goes to visit Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) about his money, a [[Colt Commander]] is seen in the hidden compartment of the door panel. In one brief scene, Frank flashes the Colt Combat Commander at a nightclub bouncer played by a young [[William Petersen]]. Frank is later seen with at his car lot when he is looking for Barry ([[James Belushi]]). But he is unable to use it because he gets knocked out by a mobster with an M1 Carbine. It looks like the stainless model, but I don't think stainless CCs were available in 1980, so it's probably a chromed finish. It has a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, and custom skeletonized hammer. Even though the entire pistol cannot be seen, due to the crease in Frank's waistband and the shadow it casts, it appears to be the shorter slide of a Combat Commander.

	[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
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	==Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose==		==Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose==
	Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose]] in the film. It's mostly tucked in his waistband so it's hard to tell.		Attaglia ([[Tom Signorelli]]) carries a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose]] in the film. It's mostly tucked in his waistband, so it's hard to tell.
	[[Image:S&W Model 19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose (right side).]]		[[Image:S&W Model 19.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose (right side).]]
	[[Image:Thief-SW19-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 tucked in his waistband.]]		[[Image:Thief-SW19-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Smith & Wesson Model 19 tucked in his waistband.]]