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StanTheMan: /* Ruger Security Six */ "almost unloaded"? Really?

2023-08-13T02:02:08Z

Ruger Security Six: "almost unloaded"? Really?

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	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-69.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah inspects the Ruger Security Six in the motel room.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-69.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah inspects the Ruger Security Six in the motel room.]]
	[[Image:Ruger_Sec_6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Stainless Ruger Security Six with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]		[[Image:Ruger_Sec_6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Stainless Ruger Security Six with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
	[[Image:TERMSE SIDEA-6.6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah's full size stainless Ruger Security Six lies on her lap. Note that this revolver appears to be ~~unloaded-- or almost~~ unloaded.]]		[[Image:TERMSE SIDEA-6.6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah's full size stainless Ruger Security Six lies on her lap. Note that this revolver appears to be unloaded.]]

	==Colt Python==		==Colt Python==

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	[[Image:T1proto3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|An earlier concept-art by [[James Cameron]] depicts [[Lance Henriksen]] as The Terminator (the director's original intention for the film was to have the Terminator be more of an infiltrator, hence the more "common man" appearance).]]		[[Image:T1proto3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|An earlier concept-art by [[James Cameron]] depicts [[Lance Henriksen]] as The Terminator (the director's original intention for the film was to have the Terminator be more of an infiltrator, hence the more "common man" appearance).]]
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Thewolfchild: /* Handguns */

2022-09-29T01:19:09Z

Handguns

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	=Handguns=		=Handguns=
	==AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide==		==AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide==
	The ".45 Longslide" that the Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires in the gun store is an [[AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a one-off made by [https://web.archive.org/web/20100312112821/http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/just-what-you-see-the-story-behind-the-45-long-slide-laser-siting.ars Ed Reynolds] from the company Laser Products Corporation, which would later become SureFire) shortly after his arrival from 2029. The pistol is first seen used to terminate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the apartment of the real Sarah Connor, the Terminator is seen with it when confronting her roommate, Ginger Ventura (Bess Motta). Upon tracking Sarah to the ''Tech Noir'' nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in the attempted termination, at which point he switches to his IMI Uzi.		The ".45 Longslide" that the Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires in the gun store is an [[AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with 7-inch (178mm) barrel and a primitive laserlock sight (a one-off made by [https://web.archive.org/web/20100312112821/http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/just-what-you-see-the-story-behind-the-45-long-slide-laser-siting.ars Ed Reynolds] from the company Laser Products Corporation, which would later become SureFire) shortly after his arrival from 2029. The pistol is first seen used to terminate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the apartment of the real Sarah Connor, the Terminator is seen with it when confronting her roommate, Ginger Ventura (Bess Motta). Upon tracking Sarah to the ''Tech Noir'' nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in the attempted termination, at which point he switches to his IMI Uzi.
	[[Image:ED 45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AMT Hardballer Longslide with laserlock sight as used in the film - .45 ACP]]		[[Image:ED 45.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AMT Hardballer Longslide with laserlock sight as used in the film - .45 ACP]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]]

Living Corpse: /* "General Dynamics RBS-80" */ Corrected a mistake that called the weapon a "laser cannon". It is a plasma cannon. Easy mistake to make. Lasers are energy weapons but not all energy weapons are lasers. Plasma and masers are lesser known.

2022-09-21T11:27:21Z

"General Dynamics RBS-80": Corrected a mistake that called the weapon a "laser cannon". It is a plasma cannon. Easy mistake to make. Lasers are energy weapons but not all energy weapons are lasers. Plasma and masers are lesser known.

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	=="General Dynamics RBS-80"==		=="General Dynamics RBS-80"==
	A heavy gun is used by the Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) upon secretly entering the Resistance's underground bunker. This rapid-fire ~~laser~~ cannon was identified in the ''Terminator'' novelization as the "[[(The Terminator) - General Dynamics RBS-80\|General Dynamics RBS-80]]". The weapon prop has a custom barrel shroud and overall appears to be based off a [[Browning M2 Water Cooled]] machine gun. A similar cannon is also seen on the sunroof of the car driven by Reese while being chased by the Aerial HK.		A heavy gun is used by the Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) upon secretly entering the Resistance's underground bunker. This rapid-fire plasma cannon was identified in the ''Terminator'' novelization as the "[[(The Terminator) - General Dynamics RBS-80\|General Dynamics RBS-80]]". The weapon prop has a custom barrel shroud and overall appears to be based off a [[Browning M2 Water Cooled]] machine gun. A similar cannon is also seen on the sunroof of the car driven by Reese while being chased by the Aerial HK.
	It is interesting that prop weapon really had a muzzle flash (probably acetylene), as seen in the shots without visual effects of plasma beams, that leaked into the original teaser trailer.		It is interesting that prop weapon really had a muzzle flash (probably acetylene), as seen in the shots without visual effects of plasma beams, that leaked into the original teaser trailer.
	[[Image:Term1 417.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The 'Skin Job' T-800 Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) fires the RBS-80. Note the spade grips and the large protruding wooden charging handle, both features of a .50 Browning. Though the charging handle is upside down and the spade grips are wider compared to a real Browning M2.]]		[[Image:Term1 417.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The 'Skin Job' T-800 Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) fires the RBS-80. Note the spade grips and the large protruding wooden charging handle, both features of a .50 Browning. Though the charging handle is upside down and the spade grips are wider compared to a real Browning M2.]]

Wuzh: /* IMI Uzi */

2022-09-04T04:45:19Z

IMI Uzi

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	=Submachine Guns=		=Submachine Guns=
	==IMI Uzi==		==IMI Uzi==
	Another weapon the Terminator acquires from the gun store is a full-size [[Uzi~~#Uzi\|~~"Uzi 9 millimeter"~~]] as stated specifically in the film~~. The Terminator purchasing an Uzi with a short barrel would be rather unrealistic, since civilian semi-auto ~~Uzi~~ carbines ~~were always sold~~ with a 16" ~~barrel per legal requirements~~. A short dummy barrel was sometimes installed to entice buyers; the gun sold here, however, is just a regular open-bolt Uzi. Director [[James Cameron]] mentioned in the magazine "Soldier of Fortune" that he assumed that in story terms the Terminator had converted the Uzi and the AR-18 into full auto weapons in his hotel room. The Terminator uses the Uzi mainly in the Tech Noir nightclub, when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) interferes with his attempts to terminate Sarah Connor ([[Linda Hamilton]]). After losing his .45, the Terminator unloads several rounds at the nightclub, killing quite a few innocent bystanders, but fails to hit Sarah, or Kyle. The Uzi appears to be attached to a leather shoulder rig which the Terminator uses to conceal the weapon under his armpit (much like how Kyle conceals his Ithaca shotgun under his armpit but with a piece of rope instead of a leather shoulder rig). This rig appears to be used by bodyguards as this leather shoulder rig is available for purchase; the Terminator probably acquired this item from the gun store when he stole the Uzi and his other weapons. He loses the weapon when Kyle uses his Ithaca to blast him out of the club's window. Another Uzi with a wooden stock is very briefly seen in a flashback sequence of Kyle Reese remembering the "Skin Job" Terminator attacking his Resistance base.		Another weapon the Terminator acquires from the gun store is a full-size, fully automatic [[Uzi]] (with the film specifically stating "Uzi 9 millimeter"). The Terminator purchasing an automatic Uzi with a short barrel would be rather unrealistic, since civilian Uzis were semi-auto carbines with 16" barrels. A short dummy barrel was sometimes installed to entice buyers; the gun sold here, however, is just a regular open-bolt Uzi. Regarding the automatic fire, Director [[James Cameron]] mentioned in the magazine "Soldier of Fortune" that he assumed that in story terms the Terminator had converted the Uzi and the AR-18 into full auto weapons in his hotel room.

			The Terminator uses the Uzi mainly in the Tech Noir nightclub, when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) interferes with his attempts to terminate Sarah Connor ([[Linda Hamilton]]). After losing his .45, the Terminator unloads several rounds at the nightclub, killing quite a few innocent bystanders, but fails to hit Sarah, or Kyle.

			The Uzi appears to be attached to a leather shoulder rig which the Terminator uses to conceal the weapon under his armpit (much like how Kyle conceals his Ithaca shotgun under his armpit but with a piece of rope instead of a leather shoulder rig). This rig appears to be used by bodyguards as this leather shoulder rig is available for purchase; the Terminator probably acquired this item from the gun store when he stole the Uzi and his other weapons. He loses the weapon when Kyle uses his Ithaca to blast him out of the club's window.

			Another Uzi with a wooden stock is very briefly seen in a flashback sequence of Kyle Reese remembering the "Skin Job" Terminator attacking his Resistance base.
	[[Image:Uzi.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:Uzi.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The gunshop owner ([[Dick Miller]]) retrieves the Uzi from a shelf. Note that the short barrel is installed, which if live would not be legal to sell over the counter, even in 1984.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The gunshop owner ([[Dick Miller]]) retrieves the Uzi from a shelf. Note that the short barrel is installed, which if live would not be legal to sell over the counter, even in 1984.]]

GoldCobraJet810: /* Franchi SPAS-12 */

2022-06-26T21:50:20Z

Franchi SPAS-12

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	=Shotguns=		=Shotguns=
	==Franchi SPAS-12==		==Franchi SPAS-12==
	The "12 Gauge Autoloader" acquired by the Terminator while in the gun store is a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun. The clerk mentions that the shotgun is Italian and could go "pump or auto". The Terminator first is seen using the shotgun in the gun store and then as one of the two weapons he uses during the assault on the police station. A SPAS-12 is also seen in the hands of a human Resistance fighter in one of the "Future War" flashbacks. The SPAS-12's top folding stock was removed by the Terminator before the attack at the police station, presumably since a Terminator would not need the stock for recoil or stability. Schwarzenegger fired the SPAS-12 with one hand, displaying the 'strength' of the Cyborg.		The "12 Gauge Autoloader" acquired by the Terminator while in the gun store is a [[Franchi SPAS-12]] shotgun. The clerk mentions that the shotgun is Italian (which is accurate) and could go "pump or auto" (which is also accurate). The Terminator first is seen using the shotgun in the gun store and then as one of the two weapons he uses during the assault on the police station. A SPAS-12 is also seen in the hands of a human Resistance fighter in one of the "Future War" flashbacks. The SPAS-12's top folding stock was removed by the Terminator before the attack at the police station, presumably since a Terminator would not need the stock for recoil or stability. Schwarzenegger fired the SPAS-12 with one hand, displaying the 'strength' of the Cyborg.

	''Trivia: In [https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/The_Terminator_(film)/Script most drafts] of the screenplay prior to filming, this weapon was described as a [[Remington 1100]], but the SPAS-12 was selected to be the Terminator's shotgun prior to the start of production. The Terminator would later use a Remington 1100 in ''[[Terminator Genisys]]''.''		''Trivia: In [https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/The_Terminator_(film)/Script most drafts] of the screenplay prior to filming, this weapon was described as a [[Remington 1100]], but the SPAS-12 was selected to be the Terminator's shotgun prior to the start of production. The Terminator would later use a Remington 1100 in ''[[Terminator Genisys]]''.''

GoldCobraJet810: /* Colt Python */

2022-06-26T21:46:04Z

Colt Python

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	==Colt Python==		==Colt Python==
	A [[Colt Python]] is briefly seen in the hands of a police officer that searches the patrol car that the Terminator abandoned.		A [[Colt Python]] is briefly seen in the hands of a police officer that searches the stolen patrol car that the Terminator abandoned.
	[[Image:Colt-Python.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Colt Python - .357 Magnum]]		[[Image:Colt-Python.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Colt Python - .357 Magnum]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-43.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A police officer searches the Terminator's patrol car with a Colt Python in hand.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-43.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A police officer searches the Terminator's stolen patrol car with a Colt Python in hand.]]

	==Smith & Wesson Model 36==		==Smith & Wesson Model 36==

GoldCobraJet810: /* Ruger Security Six */

2022-06-26T21:42:59Z

Ruger Security Six

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	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-69.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah inspects the Ruger Security Six in the motel room.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-69.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah inspects the Ruger Security Six in the motel room.]]
	[[Image:Ruger_Sec_6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Stainless Ruger Security Six with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]		[[Image:Ruger_Sec_6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Stainless Ruger Security Six with 4" barrel - .357 Magnum]]
	[[Image:TERMSE SIDEA-6.6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah's full size stainless Ruger Security Six lies on her lap. Note that this revolver appears to be unloaded.]]		[[Image:TERMSE SIDEA-6.6.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Sarah's full size stainless Ruger Security Six lies on her lap. Note that this revolver appears to be unloaded-- or almost unloaded.]]

	==Colt Python==		==Colt Python==

WaltherWhiteCook: /* Franchi SPAS-12 */ Something I noticed when rewatching T1

2022-04-11T21:59:07Z

Franchi SPAS-12: Something I noticed when rewatching T1

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	[[Image:SPAS12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 gauge]]		[[Image:SPAS12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
	[[Image:Miscte4-1-.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|The Terminator inspects the SPAS-12 at the gun store.]]		[[Image:Miscte4-1-.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|The Terminator inspects the SPAS-12 at the gun store.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-6.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS-12. Note that the factory top folding stock (now extended) is on the shotgun.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-6.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS-12. Note that the factory top folding stock (now extended) is on the shotgun. In this shot, a dry firing sound can be heard even though the SPAS-12's bolt is locked back.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Hey, you can't do that.."'' <BR> The Terminator loads a live 12 gauge shell into the chamber.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Hey, you can't do that.."'' <BR> The Terminator loads a live 12 gauge shell into the chamber.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-8.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Wrong."'' <BR> The Terminator kills the gun store owner (Dick Miller). In reality, very few gun stores keep live ammunition within reach of a customer on the counter top. Some stores might have crates of ammunition for sales or special deals on the floor, but gun store employees would pull their own sidearms on any customer who grabbed a box of ammo and had a live weapon in their hands at the same time (not that it would have helped in this case.)]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-8.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Wrong."'' <BR> The Terminator kills the gun store owner (Dick Miller). In reality, very few gun stores keep live ammunition within reach of a customer on the counter top. Some stores might have crates of ammunition for sales or special deals on the floor, but gun store employees would pull their own sidearms on any customer who grabbed a box of ammo and had a live weapon in their hands at the same time (not that it would have helped in this case.)]]

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	[[Image:SPAS12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 gauge]]		[[Image:SPAS12.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Franchi SPAS-12 - 12 gauge]]
	[[Image:Miscte4-1-.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|The Terminator inspects the SPAS-12 at the gun store.]]		[[Image:Miscte4-1-.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|The Terminator inspects the SPAS-12 at the gun store.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-6.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS-12. Note that the factory top folding stock (now extended) is on the shotgun.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-6.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS-12. Note that the factory top folding stock (now extended) is on the shotgun. In this shot, a dry firing sound can be heard even though the SPAS-12's bolt is locked back.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Hey, you can't do that.."'' <BR> The Terminator loads a live 12 gauge shell into the chamber.]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-7.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Hey, you can't do that.."'' <BR> The Terminator loads a live 12 gauge shell into the chamber.]]
	[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-8.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Wrong."'' <BR> The Terminator kills the gun store owner (Dick Miller). In reality, very few gun stores keep live ammunition within reach of a customer on the counter top. Some stores might have crates of ammunition for sales or special deals on the floor, but gun store employees would pull their own sidearms on any customer who grabbed a box of ammo and had a live weapon in their hands at the same time (not that it would have helped in this case.)]]		[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-8.jpg‎\|thumb\|600px\|none\|''"Wrong."'' <BR> The Terminator kills the gun store owner (Dick Miller). In reality, very few gun stores keep live ammunition within reach of a customer on the counter top. Some stores might have crates of ammunition for sales or special deals on the floor, but gun store employees would pull their own sidearms on any customer who grabbed a box of ammo and had a live weapon in their hands at the same time (not that it would have helped in this case.)]]