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MT2008: /* Olympic Arms K3B CAR */

2023-08-03T03:02:46Z

Olympic Arms K3B CAR

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	== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==		== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==

	[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire ~~600~~ weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.		[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles are seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 660 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.

	The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. ~~A notable goof is that the receivers~~ of the ~~guns held by individual characters change~~ throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).		The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. The receiver styles of the carbines are noteworthy because they represents a common continuity error throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).

	[[File:OlyArmsCAR AR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO. This is Olympic Arms' XM177 look-a-like variation for the civilian market, featuring an 11.5" heavy barrel and 5.5" flash hider, and was available with either A1, A1E1, or A2-style upper receivers (the latter is shown here). This weapon is a common stand-in for the XM177 in Hollywood productions made in the 1990s.]]		[[File:OlyArmsCAR AR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO. This is Olympic Arms' XM177 look-a-like variation for the civilian market, featuring an 11.5" heavy barrel and 5.5" flash hider, and was available with either A1, A1E1, or A2-style upper receivers (the latter is shown here). This weapon is a common stand-in for the XM177 in Hollywood productions made in the 1990s.]]

MT2008: /* Olympic Arms K3B CAR */

2023-08-02T22:46:24Z

Olympic Arms K3B CAR

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	== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==		== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==

	[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[~~M16 rifles series#~~Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.		[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.

	The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).		The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).

MT2008: /* Olympic Arms K3B CAR */

2023-08-02T22:45:47Z

Olympic Arms K3B CAR

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	== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==		== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==

	[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.		[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[M16 rifles series#Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.

	The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).		The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).

MT2008: /* (Fake) Colt XM177 */

2023-08-02T22:45:04Z

(Fake) Colt XM177

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	[[Image:RockM16A1-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Crisp ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) armed with an M16A1. Don't be fooled by the handguards into thinking that this is an M16A2; note the lack of a brass deflector, lack of an A2-style rear sight, and the older style forward assist.]]		[[Image:RockM16A1-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Crisp ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) armed with an M16A1. Don't be fooled by the handguards into thinking that this is an M16A2; note the lack of a brass deflector, lack of an A2-style rear sight, and the older style forward assist.]]

	== ~~(Fake) Colt XM177~~ ==		== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==

	[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. ~~The XM177s in the film all have 10" barrels and bulky older-style flash suppressors~~, ~~but also have various receiver styles. Some have A1 receivers, others have A2 receivers, and others have~~ the ~~forward assist and brass deflector but not the A2-style rear sight. What this means is that none of them~~ are ~~factory XM177 variants. Like most of~~ the ~~"XM177s" seen in Hollywood~~, ~~the upper receivers of the guns in this movie are most likely taken from~~ civilian ~~AR-15 carbine variants that have had their barrels chopped and fake~~ XM177-~~style flash hiders welded on. The lower receivers (~~all of ~~which seem~~ to ~~lack "fencing" of more modern M16 variants) may either~~ be ~~from genuine XM177s, or they may again be civilian AR15 Sporter~~-1 lowers ~~converted to auto~~. ~~Yet another example of movie "Franken-guns" built from the parts of many weapons~~.		[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.

	A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's ~~([[Gregory Sporleder]]'s)~~ XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).		The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).

	[[~~Image:Colt 609-XM1771E1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt XM177E1 with 10" barrel - 5.56mm]]~~		[[File:OlyArmsCAR AR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO. This is Olympic Arms' XM177 look-a-like variation for the civilian market, featuring an 11.5" heavy barrel and 5.5" flash hider, and was available with either A1, A1E1, or A2-style upper receivers (the latter is shown here). This weapon is a common stand-in for the XM177 in Hollywood productions made in the 1990s.]]
	~~[[Image~~:~~CAR-15Rifle~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~Commercial~~ CAR~~-15 semiautomatic rifle~~ - 5.~~56mm~~. This is ~~strictly~~ a ~~semiautomatic~~ civilian ~~copy of the XM177 style of rifles~~. ~~The~~ flash hider is a ~~smaller diameter copy of~~ the XM177 ~~and has no sound suppression qualities and is permanently welded onto the barrel to make it legal length for over~~ the ~~counter gun store sales.]]~~		[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. The Colt XM177 here is actually an MGC replica.]]
	~~[[Image:Mockcommando.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Fake Colt XM177 - 5~~.~~56mm~~]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with an XM177-style rifle, actually an Olympic Arms K3B upper on a Colt SP1 lower.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt ~~XM177~~.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This image clearly shows the profile of the weapon's receiver - it has an A2 upper receiver (albeit with an A1-style teardrop forward assist button), but the lower is clearly that of a Colt AR-15 SP1 carbine, distinguished by the lack of fencing around the magazine release.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his ~~Colt~~ XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the ~~Colt~~ XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This ~~rifle~~ has an ~~M16A2~~-style ~~upper receiver~~, ~~though~~ the lower ~~receiver lacks~~ the fencing on the magazine release~~, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style~~.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Mason prepares to fire the XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's ~~Colt~~ XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]		[[Image:Rock 403.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason firing the XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Mason prepares to fire the ~~Colt~~ XM177.]]
	[[Image:Rock 403.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason firing the ~~Colt~~ XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye returns fire on Mason. Note that the receiver of his gun has an A1-style rear sight, but it does have the brass deflector. The lower is also missing the fencing near the magazine release, so this again might be a civilian AR15 lower or a very early GAU-5/A lower.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye returns fire on Mason. Note that the receiver of his gun has an A1-style rear sight, but it does have the brass deflector. The lower is also missing the fencing near the magazine release, so this again might be a civilian AR15 lower or a very early GAU-5/A lower.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye fires his ~~Colt~~ XM177 at Goodspeed, which now lacks a shell deflector.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye fires his XM177 at Goodspeed, which now lacks a shell deflector.]]

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	[[Image:The Protector.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|A different model of "The Protector" used in ''The Rock''.]]		[[Image:The Protector.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|A different model of "The Protector" used in ''The Rock''.]]
	[[Image:RockTheProtector.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed with "The Protector''. (''Is this the most pointless entry ever posted on the site? Perhaps.'')]]		[[Image:RockTheProtector.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed with "The Protector''. (''Is this the most pointless entry ever posted on the site? Perhaps.'')]]

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AgentGumby: /* M61 Vulcan */ bigthink

2021-06-13T20:48:36Z

M61 Vulcan: bigthink

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	The [[M61 Vulcan]] appears in the film as the secondary armament of the F/A-18 Hornets used for the bombing run on Alcatraz. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force, but in reality, Hornets are only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps.		The [[M61 Vulcan]] appears in the film as the secondary armament of the F/A-18 Hornets used for the bombing run on Alcatraz. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force, but in reality, Hornets are only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps.
	[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|M61 Vulcan - 20mm]]		[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|M61 Vulcan - 20mm]]
	[[File:Rock 502.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The mockup of the F/A-18 Hornet, preparing to launch for the bombing run. ~~This plane has~~ the ~~markings of the US~~ Air Force, ~~but Hornets are in~~ real ~~life only in use in the US military by~~ the ~~Navy and Marine Corps~~. This exact mockup (with the same erroneous markings) was later used in reshoots for the film ''[[Independence Day]]''.]]		[[File:Rock 502.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The mockup of the F/A-18 Hornet, preparing to launch for the bombing run. Note the phony "U.S. Air Force" text, which contrasts with the real USMC VMFA-134 squadron markings along the fuselage's dorsal section. This exact mockup (with the same erroneous markings) was later used in reshoots for the film ''[[Independence Day]]''.]]

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	'''''The Rock''''' is a 1996 action film directed by [[Michael Bay]] and starring [[Nicolas Cage]] as Stanley Goodspeed, an FBI chemical weapons specialist who is brought into a hostage situation involving a crew of former US Marines, led by a rogue US Marine general ([[Ed Harris]]), who have taken over the former prison on Alcatraz Island and are threatening the city of San Francisco with a launch of missiles filled with deadly VX poison gas. Goodspeed finds himself going along on the mission to retake the prison with a team of US Navy SEALS and John Mason ([[Sean Connery]]), a former SAS operative who has been imprisoned illegally for the past ~~two~~ decades, and the only man to have escaped the prison alive and could use his knowledge to infiltrate "The Rock".		'''''The Rock''''' is a 1996 action film directed by [[Michael Bay]] and starring [[Nicolas Cage]] as Stanley Goodspeed, an FBI chemical weapons specialist who is brought into a hostage situation involving a crew of former US Marines, led by a rogue US Marine general ([[Ed Harris]]), who have taken over the former prison on Alcatraz Island and are threatening the city of San Francisco with a launch of missiles filled with deadly VX poison gas. Goodspeed finds himself going along on the mission to retake the prison with a team of US Navy SEALS and John Mason ([[Sean Connery]]), a former SAS operative who has been imprisoned illegally for the past three decades, and the only man to have escaped the prison alive and could use his knowledge to infiltrate "The Rock".

	{{Film Title\|The Rock}}		{{Film Title\|The Rock}}

Ultimate94ninja: /* (Fake) Colt XM177 */

2018-07-29T11:56:43Z

(Fake) Colt XM177

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	[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt XM177.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his Colt XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle ~~break~~ is pretty obvious in this shot.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his Colt XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the Colt XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This rifle has an M16A2-style upper receiver, though the lower receiver lacks the fencing on the magazine release, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the Colt XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This rifle has an M16A2-style upper receiver, though the lower receiver lacks the fencing on the magazine release, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's Colt XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's Colt XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]

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	==M61 Vulcan==		==M61 Vulcan==
	The [[M61 Vulcan]] appears in the film as the secondary armament of the F/A-18 Hornets used for the bombing run on Alcatraz. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force ~~(as well as a USMC squadron number)~~, but in reality, Hornets are only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps.		The [[M61 Vulcan]] appears in the film as the secondary armament of the F/A-18 Hornets used for the bombing run on Alcatraz. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force, but in reality, Hornets are only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps.
	[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|M61 Vulcan - 20mm]]		[[Image:M61vulcan.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|M61 Vulcan - 20mm]]
	[[File:Rock 502.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The mockup of the F/A-18 Hornet, preparing to launch for the bombing run. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force, but Hornets are in real life only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps. This exact mockup (with the same erroneous markings) was later used in reshoots for the film ''[[Independence Day]]''.]]		[[File:Rock 502.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The mockup of the F/A-18 Hornet, preparing to launch for the bombing run. This plane has the markings of the US Air Force, but Hornets are in real life only in use in the US military by the Navy and Marine Corps. This exact mockup (with the same erroneous markings) was later used in reshoots for the film ''[[Independence Day]]''.]]

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	[[Image:RockM16A1-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Crisp ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) armed with an M16A1. Don't be fooled by the handguards into thinking that this is an M16A2; note the lack of a brass deflector, lack of an A2-style rear sight, and the older style forward assist.]]		[[Image:RockM16A1-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Sgt. Crisp ([[Bokeem Woodbine]]) armed with an M16A1. Don't be fooled by the handguards into thinking that this is an M16A2; note the lack of a brass deflector, lack of an A2-style rear sight, and the older style forward assist.]]

	== ~~(Fake) Colt XM177~~ ==		== Olympic Arms K3B CAR ==

	[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. ~~The XM177s in the film all have 10" barrels and bulky older-style flash suppressors~~, ~~but also have various receiver styles. Some have A1 receivers, others have A2 receivers, and others have~~ the ~~forward assist and brass deflector but not the A2-style rear sight. What this means is that none of them~~ are ~~factory XM177 variants. Like most of~~ the ~~"XM177s" seen in Hollywood~~, ~~the upper receivers of the guns in this movie are most likely taken from~~ civilian ~~AR-15 carbine variants that have had their barrels chopped and fake~~ XM177-~~style flash hiders welded on. The lower receivers (~~all of ~~which seem~~ to ~~lack "fencing" of more modern M16 variants) may either~~ be ~~from genuine XM177s, or they may again be civilian AR15 Sporter~~-1 lowers ~~converted to auto~~. ~~Yet another example of movie "Franken-guns" built from the parts of many weapons~~.		[[M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series\|Colt XM177 Commando]] look-a-like rifles seen being used by many of the Marines. Mason and Goodspeed take two for themselves later in the film. Upon close inspection, the weapons are mostly the [[Olympic Arms K3B\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR]], which is a civilian XM177 clone - notably, all of the weapons appear to be K3B CAR uppers fitted to full-auto converted [[Colt AR-15\|Colt AR-15 SP1]] carbine lowers. All are fitted with Surefire 600 weapon lights on Weaver barrel mounts.

	A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's ~~([[Gregory Sporleder]]'s)~~ XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).		The receivers vary - some (notably the carbine carried by [[Gregory Sporleder]]) have A1E1 upper receivers, while others, such as the rifle used in the final shootout by Mason ([[Sean Connery]]) have A2 upper receivers, and others have A1 upper receivers. A notable goof is that the receivers of the guns held by individual characters change throughout the film. For instance, the XM177 handed to Goodspeed by Mason clearly has an A2 receiver when he first gets it, but later, it has an A1 receiver. Captain Frye's XM177 also undergoes various receiver changes - in the shower room scene, it has an A2-style receiver, while in later scenes it has a forward assist and brass deflector but no A2-style rear sight, and still later it has just the forward assist (A1-style receiver).

	[[~~Image:Colt 609-XM1771E1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Colt XM177E1 with 10" barrel - 5.56mm]]~~		[[File:OlyArmsCAR AR.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Olympic Arms K3B CAR carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO. This is Olympic Arms' XM177 look-a-like variation for the civilian market, featuring an 11.5" heavy barrel and 5.5" flash hider, and was available with either A1, A1E1, or A2-style upper receivers (the latter is shown here). This weapon is a common stand-in for the XM177 in Hollywood productions made in the 1990s.]]
	~~[[Image~~:~~CAR-15Rifle~~.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|~~Commercial~~ CAR~~-15 semiautomatic rifle~~ - 5.~~56mm~~. This is ~~strictly~~ a ~~semiautomatic~~ civilian ~~copy of the XM177 style of rifles~~. ~~The~~ flash hider is a ~~smaller diameter copy of~~ the XM177 ~~and has no sound suppression qualities and is permanently welded onto the barrel to make it legal length for over~~ the ~~counter gun store sales.]]~~		[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. The Colt XM177 here is actually an MGC replica.]]
	~~[[Image:Mockcommando.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Fake Colt XM177 - 5~~.~~56mm~~]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with an XM177-style rifle, actually an Olympic Arms K3B upper on a Colt SP1 lower.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt ~~XM177~~.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This image clearly shows the profile of the weapon's receiver - it has an A2 upper receiver (albeit with an A1-style teardrop forward assist button), but the lower is clearly that of a Colt AR-15 SP1 carbine, distinguished by the lack of fencing around the magazine release.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his ~~Colt~~ XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the ~~Colt~~ XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This ~~rifle~~ has an ~~M16A2~~-style ~~upper receiver~~, ~~though~~ the lower ~~receiver lacks~~ the fencing on the magazine release~~, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style~~.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Mason prepares to fire the XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's ~~Colt~~ XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]		[[Image:Rock 403.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason firing the XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|601px\|Mason prepares to fire the ~~Colt~~ XM177.]]
	[[Image:Rock 403.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason firing the ~~Colt~~ XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye returns fire on Mason. Note that the receiver of his gun has an A1-style rear sight, but it does have the brass deflector. The lower is also missing the fencing near the magazine release, so this again might be a civilian AR15 lower or a very early GAU-5/A lower.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye returns fire on Mason. Note that the receiver of his gun has an A1-style rear sight, but it does have the brass deflector. The lower is also missing the fencing near the magazine release, so this again might be a civilian AR15 lower or a very early GAU-5/A lower.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye fires his ~~Colt~~ XM177 at Goodspeed, which now lacks a shell deflector.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Cpt. Frye fires his XM177 at Goodspeed, which now lacks a shell deflector.]]

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	[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|When going over Hummel's military file, he is seen armed with a Colt XM177 in Vietnam. The image is actually a photomontage of a real military field [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/SEALwithCommando.jpg photo] where two SEALs are photographed during a training exercise in 1995. ]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt XM177.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Major Baxter ([[David Morse]]) with a Colt XM177.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his Colt XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle ~~break~~ is pretty obvious in this shot.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|A Marine aims his Colt XM177 at Goodspeed. The large muzzle brake is pretty obvious in this shot.]]
	[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the Colt XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This rifle has an M16A2-style upper receiver, though the lower receiver lacks the fencing on the magazine release, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style.]]		[[Image:RockColtCommando-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Mason gives Goodspeed the Colt XM177 after killing the Marine aiming it at him. This rifle has an M16A2-style upper receiver, though the lower receiver lacks the fencing on the magazine release, and may have been taken from a civilian AR15 variant. Strangely, the forward assist button is also M16A1-style.]]
	[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's Colt XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]		[[Image:RockCAR-15-3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Goodspeed's Colt XM177 switches to an A1-style upper receiver in this scene.]]