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	Despite harrowing scenes and good acting, the costuming left something to be desired. The German uniforms were surprising bad in this modern WW2 themed movie. The Helmets were Spanish army and were for the most part way too small. The uniforms were '''brown''' (probably unmodified Swedish uniforms), not feldgrau (Field gray) which is actually a greenish grey which would have been correct. The SS officers uniforms were really bizarre, (looking a lot like unmodified Swiss uniforms), they looked more like something out of ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' than a World War 2 movie. Also the soldiers were wearing the wrong gear, but this mistake is common amongst War movies about Nazi Germany. Only films like ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]'' try to get things right with the wardrobe. ~ MPM2008		Despite harrowing scenes and good acting, the costuming left something to be desired. The German uniforms were surprising bad in this modern WW2 themed movie. The Helmets were Spanish army and were for the most part way too small. The uniforms were '''brown''' (probably unmodified Swedish uniforms), not feldgrau (Field gray) which is actually a greenish grey which would have been correct. The SS officers uniforms were really bizarre, (looking a lot like unmodified Swiss uniforms), they looked more like something out of ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' than a World War 2 movie. Also the soldiers were wearing the wrong gear, but this mistake is common amongst War movies about Nazi Germany. Only films like ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]'' try to get things right with the wardrobe. ~ MPM2008

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	==PPS-43 ~~Submachine Gun~~==
			=Pistols=

			==Walther P38 Non-gun==
			Also referred to as a 'flash paper gun' these blank fire only weapons are used when in close proximity to an actor. Seen in this film in the several scenes where SS guards are executing prisoners. Usually, the camera films them from a distance or odd angles to disguise the gun flash's different appearance from a real gun firing blanks.
			[[Image:GreyZone-P38BlankA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|In a truly disturbing and difficult to watch scene, guards execute a lineup of women and girls, one by one, with a 'flash paper' blank-firing P38 non-gun, in the background. The SS officers in the foreground wear a strange-looking uniform, resembling a Swiss Army uniform that had 'Waffen SS' insignia sewn on.]]

			== Walther P38 ==
			All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually, an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.
			[[Image:P38Black.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Walther P38 WWII dated with black grips - 9x19mm]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 - 9mm]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyDayA.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Wearing a helmet that is way too small, an extra dressed as a German soldier fires his P38 in the final battle. Like so many of the other P38s in the film, the gun locks back empty after one shot is fired, again, indicating that the pistol was loaded with only one blank.]]

			In a somewhat weird sequence, SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) can be seen using a [[Walther P38]] to kill a girl at the end of the movie as other SS guards stand by and looked perplexed.
			[[Image:GreyZone-P38FinalA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) prepares his P38 for the final shot - 9 mm]]

			=Submachine Guns=

			==PPS-43==
	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPS-43]] submachine gun was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS subdivisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPS-43]] submachine gun was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS subdivisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.

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	[[Image:GreyZone-PPSH41A.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-PPSH41A.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-PPsh43WoodStocka.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-PPsh43WoodStocka.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

	~~==Maxim MG-08 Machine Gun==~~
	~~Rather unusual choice for a belt fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several [[Maxim MG08]] guns to fight the rebellion at the death camp.~~
	~~[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Maxim MG08 on 'sledge' mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]~~
	~~[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]~~
	~~[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]~~

	~~== Karabiner 98k ==~~
	~~Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[Karabiner 98k]] during the revolt in the camp.~~
	~~[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]~~
	~~[[Image:GreyZone-K98A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]~~

	== MP38 ==		== MP38 ==
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	[[Image:MP40Side.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:MP40Side.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]

	==~~Walther P38 Non-gun~~==		=Rifles=
	~~Also referred to as a 'flash paper gun' these blank fire only weapons are used when in close proximity to an actor. Seen in this film in~~ the ~~several scenes where~~ SS guards ~~are executing prisoners. Usually~~ the ~~camera films them from a distance or odd angles to disguise~~ the ~~gun flash's different appearance from a real gun firing blanks~~.
	[[Image:GreyZone-~~P38BlankA~~.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|In a truly disturbing and difficult to watch scene, guards execute a lineup of women and girls, one by one, with a 'flashpaper' blank-firing P38 nongun, in the background. The SS officers in the foreground wears a strange looking uniform, resembling a Swiss Army uniform that had 'Waffen SS' insignia sewn on.]]		== Karabiner 98k ==
			Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[Karabiner 98k]] during the revolt in the camp.
			[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-K98A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

	== ~~Walther P38 ==~~		=Machine Guns=
	All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.
	~~[[Image:P38Black.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Walther P38 WWII dated with black grips - 9x19mm]]~~
	~~[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 - 9mm]]~~
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyDayA.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Wearing a helmet that is way too small, an extra dressed as a German soldier fires his P38 in the final battle. Like so many of the other P38s in the film, the gun locks back empty after one shot is fired, again, indicating that the pistol was loaded with only one blank.]]

	In a ~~somewhat weird sequence~~, ~~SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt (~~[[~~Harvey Keitel~~]]~~) can be seen using a~~ [[~~Walther P38~~]] ~~to kill a girl at the end of the movie as other SS guards stand by and looked perplexed.~~		==Schwarzlose M.07/12==
	[[Image:GreyZone-~~P38FinalA~~.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|~~SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt (~~[[~~Harvey Keitel]]) prepares his P38 for the final shot~~ - ~~9 mm~~]]		A rather unusual choice for a belt-fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several [[Schwarzlose Machine Gun Model 07/12]]s to fight the rebellion at the death camp.
			[[Image:Schwarz 07-12.jpeg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Schwarzlose M.07/12 - 8x50mmR Mannlicher]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

	==Trivia==		=Trivia=
	===Wardrobe review===		==Wardrobe review==
	Despite harrowing scenes and good acting, the costuming left something to be desired. The German uniforms were surprising bad in this modern WW2 themed movie. The Helmets were Spanish army and were for the most part way too small. The uniforms were '''brown''' (probably unmodified Swedish uniforms), not feldgrau (Field gray) which is actually a greenish grey which would have been correct. The SS officers uniforms were really bizarre, (looking a lot like unmodified Swiss uniforms), they looked more like something out of ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' than a World War 2 movie. Also the soldiers were wearing the wrong gear, but this mistake is common amongst War movies about Nazi Germany. Only films like ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]'' try to get things right with the wardrobe. ~ MPM2008		Despite harrowing scenes and good acting, the costuming left something to be desired. The German uniforms were surprising bad in this modern WW2 themed movie. The Helmets were Spanish army and were for the most part way too small. The uniforms were '''brown''' (probably unmodified Swedish uniforms), not feldgrau (Field gray) which is actually a greenish grey which would have been correct. The SS officers uniforms were really bizarre, (looking a lot like unmodified Swiss uniforms), they looked more like something out of ''[[Starship Troopers]]'' than a World War 2 movie. Also the soldiers were wearing the wrong gear, but this mistake is common amongst War movies about Nazi Germany. Only films like ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]'' try to get things right with the wardrobe. ~ MPM2008

Greg-Z: /* PPS-43 Submachine Gun */

2016-08-30T13:31:50Z

PPS-43 Submachine Gun

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	==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==		==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==
	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[~~PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|~~PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS subdivisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPS-43]] submachine gun was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS subdivisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.

	[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]		[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]

Andrey Karchikyan: /* PPS-43 Submachine Gun */

2013-08-01T14:40:53Z

PPS-43 Submachine Gun

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	==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==		==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==
	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS ~~divisions~~. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS subdivisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.

	[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]		[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]

Andrey Karchikyan: /* PPS-43 Submachine Gun */

2013-08-01T14:40:01Z

PPS-43 Submachine Gun

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	==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==		==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==
	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners ~~got~~ the ~~gun~~.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners took this weapon. However, German troops captured a number of PPS-43, which are mainly used by SS divisions. So the presence of PPS in Auschwitz may well be justified historically.

	[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]		[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]

Jimmoy: /* Walther P38 */

2012-04-15T09:40:58Z

Walther P38

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	All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.		All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.
	[[Image:P38Black.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Walther P38 WWII dated with black grips - 9x19mm]]		[[Image:P38Black.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Walther P38 WWII dated with black grips - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 ~~to shoot Hesch Abramowics ([[Steve Buscemi]])~~ - 9mm]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 - 9mm]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyDayA.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Wearing a helmet that is way too small, an extra dressed as a German soldier fires his P38 in the final battle. Like so many of the other P38s in the film, the gun locks back empty after one shot is fired, again, indicating that the pistol was loaded with only one blank.]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyDayA.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Wearing a helmet that is way too small, an extra dressed as a German soldier fires his P38 in the final battle. Like so many of the other P38s in the film, the gun locks back empty after one shot is fired, again, indicating that the pistol was loaded with only one blank.]]
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	In a somewhat weird sequence, SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) can be seen using a [[Walther P38]] to kill a girl at the end of the movie as other SS guards stand by and looked perplexed.		In a somewhat weird sequence, SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) can be seen using a [[Walther P38]] to kill a girl at the end of the movie as other SS guards stand by and looked perplexed.
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38FinalA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) prepares his P38 for the final shot - 9 mm]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38FinalA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) prepares his P38 for the final shot - 9 mm]]


	==Trivia==		==Trivia==

Funkychinaman: weapon images

2012-04-15T08:07:27Z

weapon images

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	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners got the gun.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners got the gun.

			[[Image:PPSh-43-Submachine-Gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|350px\|Soviet PPS-43 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-PPSH41A.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-PPSH41A.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-PPsh43WoodStocka.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-PPsh43WoodStocka.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

	==Maxim MG-08 Machine Gun==		==Maxim MG-08 Machine Gun==
	Rather unusual choice for a belt fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several Maxim ~~Machine~~ guns to fight the rebellion at the death camp.		Rather unusual choice for a belt fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several [[Maxim MG08]] guns to fight the rebellion at the death camp.
			[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Maxim MG08 on 'sledge' mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
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	== Karabiner 98k ==		== Karabiner 98k ==
	Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[Karabiner 98k]] during the revolt in the camp.		Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[Karabiner 98k]] during the revolt in the camp.
			[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-K98A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-K98A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]

	==MP38==		== MP38 ==
	Some of the NCOs are seen carrying and firing the [[MP38]] in the film.		Some of the NCOs are seen carrying and firing the [[MP38]] in the film.
	[[Image:Mp38-1.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|~~500px~~]]		[[Image:Mp38-1.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|400px\|The MP38. The sub-machine gun of the German Military Before 1940. It was still used in small quantities in 1941 and 1942.]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-MP38A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MP38A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]


	== MP40 ==		== MP40 ==
	Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[MP40\|MP40s]] during the revolt in the camp.		Some of the SS guards can be seen having [[MP40\|MP40s]] during the revolt in the camp.
			[[Image:MP40Side.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]]

	==Walther P38 Non-gun==		==Walther P38 Non-gun==
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	== Walther P38 ==		== Walther P38 ==
	All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.		All German officers and NCOs are equipped with [[Walther P38]]s. Actually an inaccuracy in the film is that the P38 is really common, even in the hands of enlisted men, which is completely incorrect.
			[[Image:P38Black.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Walther P38 WWII dated with black grips - 9x19mm]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 to shoot Hesch Abramowics ([[Steve Buscemi]]) - 9mm]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]]) uses his Walther P38 to shoot Hesch Abramowics ([[Steve Buscemi]]) - 9mm]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38EmptyA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|SS-Oberscharfuhrer Eric Muhsfeldt ([[Harvey Keitel]])'s pistol locks back after one shot, indicating that only one round was in the gun, which is unlikely.]]

Ben41 at 07:47, 17 December 2010

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	'''The following guns were used in the movie ''The Grey Zone'''''		'''The following guns were used in the movie ''The Grey Zone'''''
	[[Image:The-GreyZonePosterA.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The Grey Zone (2001)]]		[[Image:The-GreyZonePosterA.jpg\|thumb\|right\|300px\|The Grey Zone (2001)]]

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	==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==		==PPS-43 Submachine Gun==
	Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners got the gun.		Used during the revolt, the recognizable folding metal stock appears to have been repaired by sandwiching the bars with wooden pieces, thus making it a 'hybrid' metal/wooden stock weapon. Since the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43\|PPS-43 submachine gun]] was not issued in the numbers of the PPSh-41, one wonders where the Jewish prisoners got the gun.
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	==Maxim MG-08 Machine Gun==		==Maxim MG-08 Machine Gun==
	Rather unusual choice for a belt fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several Maxim Machine guns to fight the rebellion at the death camp.		Rather unusual choice for a belt fed in this time period, German soldiers bring up several Maxim Machine guns to fight the rebellion at the death camp.

	[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MG 01a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MG 02a.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
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	==MP38==		==MP38==
	Some of the NCOs are seen carrying and firing the MP38 in the film.		Some of the NCOs are seen carrying and firing the [[MP38]] in the film.
			[[Image:Mp38-1.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px]]
	[[Image:GreyZone-MP38A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[Image:GreyZone-MP38A.jpg‎\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	~~[[Image:Mp38-1.jpg]]~~

	== MP40 ==		== MP40 ==

MoviePropMaster2008: /* Walther P38 Non-gun */

2009-09-08T20:53:15Z

Walther P38 Non-gun

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	==Walther P38 Non-gun==		==Walther P38 Non-gun==
	Also referred to as a 'flash paper gun' these blank fire only weapons are used when in close proximity to an actor. Seen in this film in the several scenes where SS guards are executing prisoners. Usually the camera films them from a distance or odd angles to disguise the gun flash's different appearance from a real gun firing blanks.		Also referred to as a 'flash paper gun' these blank fire only weapons are used when in close proximity to an actor. Seen in this film in the several scenes where SS guards are executing prisoners. Usually the camera films them from a distance or odd angles to disguise the gun flash's different appearance from a real gun firing blanks.
	[[Image:GreyZone-P38BlankA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|In a truly disturbing and difficult to watch scene, guards execute a lineup of women and girls one by one with a 'flashpaper' blank firing P38, in the background. The SS officers in the foreground wears a strange looking uniform, resembling a Swiss Army uniform that had '~~third reich~~' insignia sewn ~~onto to~~.]]		[[Image:GreyZone-P38BlankA.jpg‎ \|thumb\|none\|500px\|In a truly disturbing and difficult to watch scene, guards execute a lineup of women and girls, one by one, with a 'flashpaper' blank-firing P38 nongun, in the background. The SS officers in the foreground wears a strange looking uniform, resembling a Swiss Army uniform that had 'Waffen SS' insignia sewn on.]]

	== Walther P38 ==		== Walther P38 ==