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Pandolfini: /* Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? */

2015-06-25T06:07:02Z

Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|~~550px~~\|none\|]]		[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~550px~~\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			[[Image:GC-VZ-33-Zelary.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini: Undo revision 933819 by Pandolfini (talk)

2015-06-24T09:31:01Z

Undo revision 933819 by Pandolfini (talk)

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	[[Image:~~Zelary~~-MR-JT.jpg\|thumb\|~~600px~~\|none\|]]		[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|550px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~600px~~\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini: /* Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? */

2015-06-24T09:23:54Z

Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	[[Image:M-R-JT~~-Z-1~~.jpg\|thumb\|~~550px~~\|none\|]]		[[Image:Zelary-MR-JT.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~550px~~\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini: /* Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? */

2013-01-18T13:56:58Z

Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?

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	Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)		Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
	:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)		:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Greg-Z at 13:43, 18 January 2013

2013-01-18T13:43:26Z

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	Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)		Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
			:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini: /* Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? */

2013-01-18T12:29:54Z

Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?

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	:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.		:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.
	: Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)		: Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)

			Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
			[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]

Greg-Z at 07:11, 18 January 2013

2013-01-18T07:11:11Z

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	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)
	:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different. Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)		:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.
			: Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Greg-Z at 07:06, 18 January 2013

2013-01-18T07:06:55Z

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	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)
			:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different. Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini at 06:33, 18 January 2013

2013-01-18T06:33:02Z

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	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx ~~vey~~ much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Pandolfini: /* Steyr Mannlicher M1895? */

2013-01-18T06:22:14Z

Steyr Mannlicher M1895?

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	~~[[Image:SteyrM95Short.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Steyr M1895 Short Rifle (M1930 Conversion) - 8x56R]]~~
	[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|550px\|none\|]]		[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|550px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
	~~[[Image:J Triska-SM1895-Z.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]~~

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx vey much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx vey much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|~~550px~~\|none\|]]		[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|600px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~550px~~\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			[[Image:GC-VZ-33-Zelary.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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	Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)		Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
	:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)		:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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	Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)		Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
	[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:UR-P-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
			:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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	== Steyr Mannlicher M1895? ==		== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==

	~~[[Image:SteyrM95Short.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Steyr M1895 Short Rifle (M1930 Conversion) - 8x56R]]~~
	[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|550px\|none\|]]		[[Image:M-R-JT-Z-1.jpg\|thumb\|550px\|none\|]]
	[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]		[[Image:JT-M-M95-R-Z-2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]
	~~[[Image:J Triska-SM1895-Z.jpg\|thumb\|none\|550px\|]]~~

	This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx vey much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)		This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper\|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper\|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx vey much!--[[User:Pandolfini\|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini\|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)