Talk:X-Men: First Class - Revision history

Ben41: /* Hugh Jackman's Cameo */

2013-12-10T02:53:30Z

Hugh Jackman's Cameo

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	==Hugh Jackman's Cameo==		==Hugh Jackman's Cameo==
	When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.		When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.

			[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]

	Actually this film is a complete reboot of the Xmen series, so Origins plays no role in the timeline anymore. [[User:Bristow8411\|Bristow8411]] 02:22, 25 January 2012 (CST)		Actually this film is a complete reboot of the Xmen series, so Origins plays no role in the timeline anymore. [[User:Bristow8411\|Bristow8411]] 02:22, 25 January 2012 (CST)
	[[~~Image~~:~~HughJackman~~-~~XMFC.jpg~~\|~~thumb\|none~~\|~~600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.~~]]		: Well, not exactly as [[X-Men: Days of Future Past]] will show. --[[User:Ben41\|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41\|talk]]) 21:53, 9 December 2013 (EST)

	==Rebecca Romijn's Cameo==		==Rebecca Romijn's Cameo==

Bristow8411 at 08:22, 25 January 2012

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	When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.		When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.

	Actually this film is a complete reboot of the Xmen series, so Origins plays no role in the timeline anymore.		Actually this film is a complete reboot of the Xmen series, so Origins plays no role in the timeline anymore. [[User:Bristow8411\|Bristow8411]] 02:22, 25 January 2012 (CST)
	[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]		[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]

Bristow8411: /* Hugh Jackman's Cameo */

2012-01-25T08:21:59Z

Hugh Jackman's Cameo

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	==Hugh Jackman's Cameo==		==Hugh Jackman's Cameo==
	When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.		When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.

			Actually this film is a complete reboot of the Xmen series, so Origins plays no role in the timeline anymore.
	[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]		[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]

Warejaws at 15:53, 20 November 2011

2011-11-20T15:53:10Z

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	==NR-40==		==NR-40==
	In a a deleted extended scene of Erik's attack on the Soviet palace guards, a Soviet guard is seen holding what appears to be the Soviet NR-40 combat knife before Erik uses his metal-controlling abilities to impale the guard with it.		In a a deleted extended scene of Erik's attack on the Soviet palace guards, a Soviet guard is seen holding what appears to be the Soviet NR-40 combat knife before Erik uses his metal-controlling abilities to impale the guard with it.

			=Cameos=
			==Hugh Jackman's Cameo==
			When Charles Xavier ([[James McAvoy]]) and Erik Lensherr ([[Michael Fassbender]]) began to recruit mutants, they briefly encounter James Howlett/Wolverine ([[Hugh Jackman]]) and attempt to recruit him. Interestingly, Wolverine has no memory of this moment due to the events of [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] leading to his amnesia and the fact that Erik and Charles aged greatly before the events of [[X-Men]] took place.
			[[Image:HughJackman-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|James Howlett peacefully smokes his cigar as Charles and Erik approach him.]]

			==Rebecca Romijn's Cameo==
			Rebecca Romijn (who played Mystique in the older ''[[X-Men]]'' films) makes a cameo as the adult form of Mystique's "human" appearance before Erik demanded to see Mystique's true form.
			[[Image:Rebecca Romijn-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Rebecca Romijn as the adult form of Mystique.]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Kenny99: /* Reichsarbeitsdienst Dagger */

2011-10-15T03:45:28Z

Reichsarbeitsdienst Dagger

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	==Reichsarbeitsdienst Dagger==		==Reichsarbeitsdienst Dagger==
	When Erik disarmed a former SS soldier and snatches what appears to be the Reichsarbeitsdienst dagger from his grasp, he briefly examined the engraving of the dagger, which reads "Blut und Ehre" ("Blood and Honor" in German). This is inaccurate as this is the motto of the Hitler Youth. The correct engraving would be "Arbeit Adelt," which is German for "Work Ennobles." Erik later draws it out when he confronts Shaw on his yacht.		When Erik disarmed a former SS soldier and snatches what appears to be the Reichsarbeitsdienst dagger from his grasp, he briefly examined the engraving of the dagger, which reads "Blut und Ehre" ("Blood and Honor" in German). This is inaccurate as this is the motto of the Hitler Youth. The correct engraving would be "Arbeit Adelt," which is German for "Work Ennobles." Erik later draws it out when he confronts Shaw on his yacht.
	~~::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)~~
	~~: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)~~
	That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. Judging from the emblem at the top of the grip it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	~~:I fixed the page and added the information from your comment into the knife section. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 22:11, 21 September 2011 (CDT)~~
	[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]		[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]

Czar: /* Pistol */

2011-10-15T03:18:55Z

Pistol

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	[[Image:Pistol3-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[Image:Pistol3-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			I watched the movie today and looking at these photos it looks to be a Bergmann-Bayard model pistol with the magazine in front of the trigger, i recall seeing one of Shaw's minions pick it up and it appears to have a curved grip only further making me think it is a Bergmann-Bayard.

	I would almost say that it's an Intratec Tec22. [[User:Rockwolf66\|Rockwolf66]] 21:37, 13 September 2011 (CDT)		I would almost say that it's an Intratec Tec22. [[User:Rockwolf66\|Rockwolf66]] 21:37, 13 September 2011 (CDT)
	:Close, but the ejection port on a Tec22 is on the side as opposed to this pistol which has in on the top edge of the frame. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 04:31, 14 September 2011 (CDT)		:Close, but the ejection port on a Tec22 is on the side as opposed to this pistol which has in on the top edge of the frame. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 04:31, 14 September 2011 (CDT)

Kenny99: /* SS Dagger */

2011-09-22T03:11:39Z

SS Dagger

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	=Knives=		=Knives=
	==SS Dagger==		==Reichsarbeitsdienst Dagger==
	When Erik disarmed a former SS soldier and snatches ~~his SS~~ dagger from his grasp, he briefly examined the engraving of the SS dagger, which reads "Blut und Ehre" ("Blood and Honor" in German). This is inaccurate as this is the motto of the Hitler Youth. The correct engraving would be "~~Meine Ehre heißt Treue~~," which is "~~My Honor is Loyalty~~" ~~in German.~~ Erik later draws it out when he confronts Shaw on his yacht.		When Erik disarmed a former SS soldier and snatches what appears to be the Reichsarbeitsdienst dagger from his grasp, he briefly examined the engraving of the dagger, which reads "Blut und Ehre" ("Blood and Honor" in German). This is inaccurate as this is the motto of the Hitler Youth. The correct engraving would be "Arbeit Adelt," which is German for "Work Ennobles." Erik later draws it out when he confronts Shaw on his yacht.
	::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. Judging from the emblem at the top of the grip it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. Judging from the emblem at the top of the grip it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The SS dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]		:I fixed the page and added the information from your comment into the knife section. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 22:11, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
			[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]

	==NR-40==		==NR-40==

Kenny99: /* Anachronisms all over the place */

2011-09-22T03:04:56Z

Anachronisms all over the place

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	::You know X-Men Wolverine was so anachronistic, I seriously didn't comprehend what time period it was. LOL! If that was the 1970s, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:58, 9 September 2011 (CDT)		::You know X-Men Wolverine was so anachronistic, I seriously didn't comprehend what time period it was. LOL! If that was the 1970s, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:58, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
	:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)		:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
	:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been ~~M1918A2 BARs as BARs were available at the time before the M16s and the~~ M14s ~~replaced the older WWII weapons~~. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been M14s. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	::I think you meant the M1 Grand, the BAR was '''never''' used as an service rifle from my knowledge. - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 20:15, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		::I think you meant the M1 Grand, the BAR was '''never''' used as an service rifle from my knowledge. - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 20:15, 21 September 2011 (CDT)

Mr. Wolf: /* Anachronisms all over the place */

2011-09-22T01:15:32Z

Anachronisms all over the place

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	:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)		:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
	:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been M1918A2 BARs as BARs were available at the time before the M16s and the M14s replaced the older WWII weapons. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been M1918A2 BARs as BARs were available at the time before the M16s and the M14s replaced the older WWII weapons. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
			::I think you meant the M1 Grand, the BAR was '''never''' used as an service rifle from my knowledge. - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 20:15, 21 September 2011 (CDT)

	==Not CAR-15s==		==Not CAR-15s==

Commando552: /* SS Dagger */

2011-09-21T21:22:51Z

SS Dagger

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	::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. ~~I think~~ it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. Judging from the emblem at the top of the grip it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The SS dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]		[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The SS dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]

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			I watched the movie today and looking at these photos it looks to be a Bergmann-Bayard model pistol with the magazine in front of the trigger, i recall seeing one of Shaw's minions pick it up and it appears to have a curved grip only further making me think it is a Bergmann-Bayard.

	I would almost say that it's an Intratec Tec22. [[User:Rockwolf66\|Rockwolf66]] 21:37, 13 September 2011 (CDT)		I would almost say that it's an Intratec Tec22. [[User:Rockwolf66\|Rockwolf66]] 21:37, 13 September 2011 (CDT)
	:Close, but the ejection port on a Tec22 is on the side as opposed to this pistol which has in on the top edge of the frame. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 04:31, 14 September 2011 (CDT)		:Close, but the ejection port on a Tec22 is on the side as opposed to this pistol which has in on the top edge of the frame. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 04:31, 14 September 2011 (CDT)

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	::You know X-Men Wolverine was so anachronistic, I seriously didn't comprehend what time period it was. LOL! If that was the 1970s, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:58, 9 September 2011 (CDT)		::You know X-Men Wolverine was so anachronistic, I seriously didn't comprehend what time period it was. LOL! If that was the 1970s, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell! :D [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:58, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
	:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)		:::"I got annoyed by the '''Beretta 92FS Inox''' appearing in the 1970s" Actually those were Taurus PT92s, which themselves were not made until the 80s, just making a correction. And yes, for the love of God a G36K in the 1970s! Suriously! They must of gotten Treyarch as their weapon advisers for that movie! - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 03:53, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
	:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been ~~M1918A2 BARs as BARs were available at the time before the M16s and the~~ M14s ~~replaced the older WWII weapons~~. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		:Hmm...interesting as both feature modern CAR-15 rifles out of place (the Commando resembling two assault rifles made in the 1990s). Also, the M16A1s in X-Men: First Class should have been M14s. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 05:50, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	::I think you meant the M1 Grand, the BAR was '''never''' used as an service rifle from my knowledge. - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 20:15, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		::I think you meant the M1 Grand, the BAR was '''never''' used as an service rifle from my knowledge. - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 20:15, 21 September 2011 (CDT)

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	::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		::Seriously, that is one of the least anachronistic things in this abomination of historical inaccuracy... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 13:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		: Surely all that proves is that the character in question was in the Hitlerjugend at some point. [[User:The Wierd It\|The Wierd It]] 15:56, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. ~~I think~~ it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)		That isn't a Hitler Youth, SS or any armed forces knife. Judging from the emblem at the top of the grip it is in fact a knife inspired by or a derivative of the Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD, basically the German auxiliary labour force) Officer knife. The incorrect part is that it has the Hitler Youth motto rather than the RAD motto of "Arbeit Adelt" (work ennobles). Regardless, it isn't a real WW2 weapon as the motto is deeply engraved rather than etched on the surface. "Blut und Ehre" is however probably the best of all the mottos engraved on the Nazi daggers, so that is probably why it was chosen. Has been a while since I saw this, but was this guy actually identified as former SS rather than just a Nazi? --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 16:21, 21 September 2011 (CDT)
	[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The SS dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]		[[Image:SSDagger-XMFC.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The SS dagger in Erik's hands, which inaccurately has the motto of the Hitler Youth.]]