Talk:Winchester Model 1892 - Revision history

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	[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]		[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]
	[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]		[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]
	[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-1-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|A Winchester Model 1892 (.44-40) from ''[[Breakdown]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used rifle from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/vincent-berry-deke-shotgun-from-breakdown/a/997049-2876.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]		[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-1-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A Winchester Model 1892 (.44-40) from ''[[Breakdown]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used rifle from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/vincent-berry-deke-shotgun-from-breakdown/a/997049-2876.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]
	[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-2-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|Opposite view of the screen-used Winchester Model 1892 from ''[[Breakdown]]''.]]		[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-2-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Opposite view of the screen-used Winchester Model 1892 from ''[[Breakdown]]''.]]

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Pustelga7: /* Additional Images */

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	[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]		[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]
	[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]		[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]
			[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-1-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|A Winchester Model 1892 (.44-40) from ''[[Breakdown]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used rifle from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/vincent-berry-deke-shotgun-from-breakdown/a/997049-2876.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]
			[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-2-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Opposite view of the screen-used Winchester Model 1892 from ''[[Breakdown]]''.]]

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Greg-Z: /* Additional Images */

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	[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]		[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]
			[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]

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Greg-Z at 17:47, 6 November 2021

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			[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]

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	== Magazine Capacity? ==		== Magazine Capacity? ==

SeanWolf at 20:15, 13 May 2020

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	:The modern 1892 clones with full length magazines, 16" barrel models held 8 rounds, 20" barrel models held 10 rounds and 24" barrel models held 12 rounds. The Garate El Tigre 1892 clone with 22" barrel held 12 .44-40 rounds. Those are magazine capacity. (My Rossi Puma M92 (LSI import) 20" barrel held 10 rounds in the magazine with plug, 11 rounds w/o the plug.)		:The modern 1892 clones with full length magazines, 16" barrel models held 8 rounds, 20" barrel models held 10 rounds and 24" barrel models held 12 rounds. The Garate El Tigre 1892 clone with 22" barrel held 12 .44-40 rounds. Those are magazine capacity. (My Rossi Puma M92 (LSI import) 20" barrel held 10 rounds in the magazine with plug, 11 rounds w/o the plug.)
	:The original Henry and Winchester 1866 rifles used the .44 Henry cartridge 1.35" long compared with the 1.6" length of more modern pistol/carbine cartridges (.357 Mag, .44 mag, .44-40, .45 Colt). An original Henry rifle would hold 16 .44 Henry cartridges but a modern replica in .44-40 or .45 Colt holds 13 rounds. --[[User:Carl N. Brown\|Carl N. Brown]] ([[User talk:Carl N. Brown\|talk]]) 10:16, 21 February 2017 (EST)		:The original Henry and Winchester 1866 rifles used the .44 Henry cartridge 1.35" long compared with the 1.6" length of more modern pistol/carbine cartridges (.357 Mag, .44 mag, .44-40, .45 Colt). An original Henry rifle would hold 16 .44 Henry cartridges but a modern replica in .44-40 or .45 Colt holds 13 rounds. --[[User:Carl N. Brown\|Carl N. Brown]] ([[User talk:Carl N. Brown\|talk]]) 10:16, 21 February 2017 (EST)

			== Fanning The Hammer? ==

			I was watching the Rifleman episode 'Duel of Honor' and I caught something odd and I've been meaning to ask this: Can you fan-fire this gun? Right near the end during the titular duel, Lucas apparently fires the gun by fanning the hammer (just one round) out and I've never seen this done before. --[[User:SeanWolf\|SeanWolf]] ([[User talk:SeanWolf\|talk]]) 16:15, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

Slon95: 1866 / .357 magnum / 1878 / on 1892 page... Belay

2020-02-08T21:37:09Z

1866 / .357 magnum / 1878 / on 1892 page... Belay

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	~~==Other/Additional Variants==~~
	~~[[Image:Winchester1878.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|Winchester 1892 - 357. Magnum]]~~

	== Magazine Capacity? ==		== Magazine Capacity? ==

Carl N. Brown: /* Magazine Capacity? */

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Magazine Capacity?

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	This isn't regarding currently available 1892's, but 92's, and 73's, in general. I ask because i want to know, i'm not getting one. I looked again now, and many people, even owners of it, have said it has a capacity of 12-15, in 44-40. I want to know if a 19th century .44-40 73/92 Winchester Carbine holds 12, 15, or another capacity, or if all of them are available? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		This isn't regarding currently available 1892's, but 92's, and 73's, in general. I ask because i want to know, i'm not getting one. I looked again now, and many people, even owners of it, have said it has a capacity of 12-15, in 44-40. I want to know if a 19th century .44-40 73/92 Winchester Carbine holds 12, 15, or another capacity, or if all of them are available? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

			:I know I am late to this conversation. Google might tell you the capacity of modern copies, but may not reflect capacity of original guns in original calibers. Sources don't always distinguish between magazine capacity and total capacity (full magazine +1 in the firing chamber).
			:Due to political reasons, some modern imported leveraction rifles were limited to ten round capacity. In 2012 discussions on The FiringLine and SASS Wire mentioned upping the magazine capacity on Rossi 1892 clones by removing a white plastic spacer screwed onto the magazine end plug.
			:The modern 1892 clones with full length magazines, 16" barrel models held 8 rounds, 20" barrel models held 10 rounds and 24" barrel models held 12 rounds. The Garate El Tigre 1892 clone with 22" barrel held 12 .44-40 rounds. Those are magazine capacity. (My Rossi Puma M92 (LSI import) 20" barrel held 10 rounds in the magazine with plug, 11 rounds w/o the plug.)
			:The original Henry and Winchester 1866 rifles used the .44 Henry cartridge 1.35" long compared with the 1.6" length of more modern pistol/carbine cartridges (.357 Mag, .44 mag, .44-40, .45 Colt). An original Henry rifle would hold 16 .44 Henry cartridges but a modern replica in .44-40 or .45 Colt holds 13 rounds. --[[User:Carl N. Brown\|Carl N. Brown]] ([[User talk:Carl N. Brown\|talk]]) 10:16, 21 February 2017 (EST)

Z008MJ at 22:00, 24 May 2013

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	:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

	Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference?		Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

	:That's just what I got from Google. I think that info is available because it looks like the carbine is the only 1892 Winchester still has in production. You might want to look on auction sites for specs on longer barrels. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:51, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:That's just what I got from Google. I think that info is available because it looks like the carbine is the only 1892 Winchester still has in production. You might want to look on auction sites for specs on longer barrels. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:51, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

			This isn't regarding currently available 1892's, but 92's, and 73's, in general. I ask because i want to know, i'm not getting one. I looked again now, and many people, even owners of it, have said it has a capacity of 12-15, in 44-40. I want to know if a 19th century .44-40 73/92 Winchester Carbine holds 12, 15, or another capacity, or if all of them are available? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

Funkychinaman at 14:51, 24 May 2013

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	Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference?		Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference?
			:That's just what I got from Google. I think that info is available because it looks like the carbine is the only 1892 Winchester still has in production. You might want to look on auction sites for specs on longer barrels. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:51, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

Z008MJ at 13:43, 24 May 2013

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	Thanks in Advance. [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 08:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		Thanks in Advance. [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 08:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
	:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

			Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference?

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	[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]		[[Image:Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine Half-magazine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine, half magazine - .25-20 W.C.F.]]
	[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]		[[File:Denix Winchester 92 Carbine.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Denix "Mod.92 carbine" non-firing replica (model 1068/G)]]
	[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-1-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|A Winchester Model 1892 (.44-40) from ''[[Breakdown]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used rifle from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/vincent-berry-deke-shotgun-from-breakdown/a/997049-2876.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]		[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-1-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|A Winchester Model 1892 (.44-40) from ''[[Breakdown]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used rifle from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/vincent-berry-deke-shotgun-from-breakdown/a/997049-2876.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]
	[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-2-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|Opposite view of the screen-used Winchester Model 1892 from ''[[Breakdown]]''.]]		[[Image:Breakdown-Winchester-2-HeritageAuction.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Opposite view of the screen-used Winchester Model 1892 from ''[[Breakdown]]''.]]

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	:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:According to [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/72476 this], it's ten rounds. [http://www.impactguns.com/winchester-model-1892-carbine-44-40-20in-534177140-048702119644.aspx This] has it at ten rounds as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 09:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

	Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference?		Thanks, i have some more questions regarding that if you don't mind. Does both have ten rounds, or just the carbine? What ammunition gives it the commonly heard 12 and 15 rounds? Does the Winchester 1873 have the exact same capacity as the 1892 or is there a there difference? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

	:That's just what I got from Google. I think that info is available because it looks like the carbine is the only 1892 Winchester still has in production. You might want to look on auction sites for specs on longer barrels. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:51, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:That's just what I got from Google. I think that info is available because it looks like the carbine is the only 1892 Winchester still has in production. You might want to look on auction sites for specs on longer barrels. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman\|talk]]) 10:51, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

			This isn't regarding currently available 1892's, but 92's, and 73's, in general. I ask because i want to know, i'm not getting one. I looked again now, and many people, even owners of it, have said it has a capacity of 12-15, in 44-40. I want to know if a 19th century .44-40 73/92 Winchester Carbine holds 12, 15, or another capacity, or if all of them are available? [[User:Z008MJ\|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ\|talk]]) 18:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)