https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AWinans_Steam_Gun 2026-06-02T18:37:30Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.41.0 https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=349118&oldid=prev 2010-10-27T18:00:58Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">the Text</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:00, 27 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l31">Line 31:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 31:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though (Hope nobody minds that I italicized it), despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. Shame us rebs never got a chance to mess with it.. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though (Hope nobody minds that I italicized it), despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. Shame us rebs never got a chance to mess with it.. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If it shows up in a movie or TV show along with other guns, put in it there. But saying only Mythbusters, which is getting deleted because we are getting rid of such pages anyway [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Excalibur01 https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=349034&oldid=prev 2010-10-27T14:28:26Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">the Text</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:28, 27 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though (Hope nobody minds that I italicized it), despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though (Hope nobody minds that I italicized it), despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Shame us rebs never got a chance to mess with it.</ins>. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=349033&oldid=prev 2010-10-27T14:26:41Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">the Text</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:26, 27 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Okay I'm a softy as far as admins go. Here is the text.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Okay I'm a softy as far as admins go. Here is the text.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1861, Ross Winans, a locomotive builder in Baltimore, Md., manufactured a steam-powered gun invented by a Charles S. Dickenson. Winans welcomed novelty, a trait he was known for in his locomotive designs, and he applied his enthusiasm for innovation when he produced the steam gun that came to bear his name.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>In 1861, Ross Winans, a locomotive builder in Baltimore, Md., manufactured a steam-powered gun invented by a Charles S. Dickenson. Winans welcomed novelty, a trait he was known for in his locomotive designs, and he applied his enthusiasm for innovation when he produced the steam gun that came to bear his name.'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The idea behind the gun was to use steam to hurl a cannonball; his "gun" was supposedly capable of throwing 200 balls a minute (weight unknown) up to 2 miles, of projecting a 100-pound cannon ball and even of firing bullets. The Winans device could be considered an early machine gun, and certain writers have described it by that term. A hopper fed the pivoted gun barrel of the Winans gun, which itself ran on railroad tracks. Winans evidently hoped it might be used to bring the rapidly escalating Civil War to a quick conclusion. Although born in Vernon, N.J., Winans was a Confederate sympathizer who was actively involved in Confederate politics. In May of 1861 Winans shipped his gun south from Baltimore to Harpers Ferry, Va., but on May 11, 1861, Colonel Edward F. Jones of the 6th Massachusetts Regiment under Brigadier General Benjamin F. Butler intercepted Winans</del>' <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">gun. Three days later, Butler captured Winans in Baltimore. Had Secretary of State William H. Seward not interceded on behalf of the millionaire prisoner, Winans might have been hanged for treason. Instead, he was released, a fact that angered Butler for the rest of his life. Through the remainder of the war, the gun protected the Baltimore &amp; Ohio Patuxent River Viaduct.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though, despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''The idea behind the gun was to use steam to hurl a cannonball; his "gun" was supposedly capable of throwing 200 balls a minute (weight unknown) up to 2 miles, of projecting a 100-pound cannon ball and even of firing bullets. The Winans device could be considered an early machine gun, and certain writers have described it by that term. A hopper fed the pivoted gun barrel of the Winans gun, which itself ran on railroad tracks. Winans evidently hoped it might be used to bring the rapidly escalating Civil War to a quick conclusion. Although born in Vernon, N.J., Winans was a Confederate sympathizer who was actively involved in Confederate politics. In May of 1861 Winans shipped his gun south from Baltimore to Harpers Ferry, Va., but on May 11, 1861, Colonel Edward F. Jones of the 6th Massachusetts Regiment under Brigadier General Benjamin F. Butler intercepted Winans' gun. Three days later, Butler captured Winans in Baltimore. Had Secretary of State William H. Seward not interceded on behalf of the millionaire prisoner, Winans might have been hanged for treason. Instead, he was released, a fact that angered Butler for the rest of his life. Through the remainder of the war, the gun protected the Baltimore &amp; Ohio Patuxent River Viaduct.''</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(Hope nobody minds that I italicized it)</ins>, despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=349032&oldid=prev 2010-10-27T14:24:42Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">the Text</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:24, 27 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l27">Line 27:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 27:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1861, Ross Winans, a locomotive builder in Baltimore, Md., manufactured a steam-powered gun invented by a Charles S. Dickenson. Winans welcomed novelty, a trait he was known for in his locomotive designs, and he applied his enthusiasm for innovation when he produced the steam gun that came to bear his name.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1861, Ross Winans, a locomotive builder in Baltimore, Md., manufactured a steam-powered gun invented by a Charles S. Dickenson. Winans welcomed novelty, a trait he was known for in his locomotive designs, and he applied his enthusiasm for innovation when he produced the steam gun that came to bear his name.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The idea behind the gun was to use steam to hurl a cannonball; his &quot;gun&quot; was supposedly capable of throwing 200 balls a minute (weight unknown) up to 2 miles, of projecting a 100-pound cannon ball and even of firing bullets. The Winans device could be considered an early machine gun, and certain writers have described it by that term. A hopper fed the pivoted gun barrel of the Winans gun, which itself ran on railroad tracks. Winans evidently hoped it might be used to bring the rapidly escalating Civil War to a quick conclusion. Although born in Vernon, N.J., Winans was a Confederate sympathizer who was actively involved in Confederate politics. In May of 1861 Winans shipped his gun south from Baltimore to Harpers Ferry, Va., but on May 11, 1861, Colonel Edward F. Jones of the 6th Massachusetts Regiment under Brigadier General Benjamin F. Butler intercepted Winans' gun. Three days later, Butler captured Winans in Baltimore. Had Secretary of State William H. Seward not interceded on behalf of the millionaire prisoner, Winans might have been hanged for treason. Instead, he was released, a fact that angered Butler for the rest of his life. Through the remainder of the war, the gun protected the Baltimore &amp; Ohio Patuxent River Viaduct.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The idea behind the gun was to use steam to hurl a cannonball; his &quot;gun&quot; was supposedly capable of throwing 200 balls a minute (weight unknown) up to 2 miles, of projecting a 100-pound cannon ball and even of firing bullets. The Winans device could be considered an early machine gun, and certain writers have described it by that term. A hopper fed the pivoted gun barrel of the Winans gun, which itself ran on railroad tracks. Winans evidently hoped it might be used to bring the rapidly escalating Civil War to a quick conclusion. Although born in Vernon, N.J., Winans was a Confederate sympathizer who was actively involved in Confederate politics. In May of 1861 Winans shipped his gun south from Baltimore to Harpers Ferry, Va., but on May 11, 1861, Colonel Edward F. Jones of the 6th Massachusetts Regiment under Brigadier General Benjamin F. Butler intercepted Winans' gun. Three days later, Butler captured Winans in Baltimore. Had Secretary of State William H. Seward not interceded on behalf of the millionaire prisoner, Winans might have been hanged for treason. Instead, he was released, a fact that angered Butler for the rest of his life. Through the remainder of the war, the gun protected the Baltimore &amp; Ohio Patuxent River Viaduct.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: Well, gotta have some nice guys in Administration sometimes. :b That was a interesting and pretty well done piece though, despite the fact is isn't really a gun in the strictest sense. I remember reading about the device a LONG time ago in one of my granddad's many Civil War books. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 14:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348869&oldid=prev 2010-10-27T00:43:48Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:43, 27 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is only seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is only seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== the Text ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Okay I'm a softy as far as admins go. Here is the text.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In 1861, Ross Winans, a locomotive builder in Baltimore, Md., manufactured a steam-powered gun invented by a Charles S. Dickenson. Winans welcomed novelty, a trait he was known for in his locomotive designs, and he applied his enthusiasm for innovation when he produced the steam gun that came to bear his name.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The idea behind the gun was to use steam to hurl a cannonball; his "gun" was supposedly capable of throwing 200 balls a minute (weight unknown) up to 2 miles, of projecting a 100-pound cannon ball and even of firing bullets. The Winans device could be considered an early machine gun, and certain writers have described it by that term. A hopper fed the pivoted gun barrel of the Winans gun, which itself ran on railroad tracks. Winans evidently hoped it might be used to bring the rapidly escalating Civil War to a quick conclusion. Although born in Vernon, N.J., Winans was a Confederate sympathizer who was actively involved in Confederate politics. In May of 1861 Winans shipped his gun south from Baltimore to Harpers Ferry, Va., but on May 11, 1861, Colonel Edward F. Jones of the 6th Massachusetts Regiment under Brigadier General Benjamin F. Butler intercepted Winans' gun. Three days later, Butler captured Winans in Baltimore. Had Secretary of State William H. Seward not interceded on behalf of the millionaire prisoner, Winans might have been hanged for treason. Instead, he was released, a fact that angered Butler for the rest of his life. Through the remainder of the war, the gun protected the Baltimore &amp; Ohio Patuxent River Viaduct.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Jcordell https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348801&oldid=prev 2010-10-26T22:16:07Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:16, 26 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">onl;y </del>seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">only </ins>seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348799&oldid=prev 2010-10-26T22:15:15Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:15, 26 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is onl;y seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted before. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm to the letter and is onl;y seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Simply put, if they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348798&oldid=prev 2010-10-26T22:15:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:15, 26 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as well</del>. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Just seems </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be how it goes now</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Several of such pages have been deleted recently. If </del>they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">before</ins>. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use/appearance on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as stated. But it doesn't get it's own page. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To add, I'll state that it certainly doesn't need it's own page when it's not strictly a firearm </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the letter and is onl;y seen on one other page on the whole site (A page that itself is under consideration for deletion</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Simply put, if </ins>they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348797&oldid=prev 2010-10-26T22:07:54Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:07, 26 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted as well. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">they</del>'<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ve just said. They don;</del>t get <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">their </del>own page. Just seems to be how it goes now. Several of such pages have been deleted recently. If they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted as well. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/appearance </ins>on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stated. But it doesn</ins>'t get <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it's </ins>own page. Just seems to be how it goes now. Several of such pages have been deleted recently. If they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

StanTheMan https://www.buildlogs.org/index.php?title=Talk:Winans_Steam_Gun&diff=348796&oldid=prev 2010-10-26T22:06:57Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:06, 26 October 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I would appreciate if you would put this page back because i put a lot of work into it if not just let me copy the text so I could save to my documents. --[[User:Mr. Matt|Mr. Matt]] 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted as well. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as they've just said. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Otherwise, it </del>seems <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">generally agreed </del>it <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">doesn;t fit the realm of what's allowable for weapon pages</del>. Several of such pages have been deleted recently. If they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: It was deleted for a reason, the fact it had a lot of work in it is a sad one, but irrelevant - I've seen bigger pages with even more effort deleted as well. It's just tough. If it doesn't fit the rules or meet any of the criteria of what's allowable on the site as the Admins see it, then it goes. Noting about it's use on the particular film/TV/game/anime page it is on itself is the only exception, as they've just said. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">They don;t get their own page. Just </ins>seems <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to be how </ins>it <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">goes now</ins>. Several of such pages have been deleted recently. If they say it doesn't warrant it's own page, then it doesn't get one, whatever you may think. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 22:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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