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	I think the odd looking 1911 in the fifth screen shot [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/File:Watchmen-M1911A1-4.jpg] is a 1911 Non Gun. What do you guys think? - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 09:15, 13 March 2011 (MSK)		I think the odd looking 1911 in the fifth screen shot [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/File:Watchmen-M1911A1-4.jpg] is a 1911 Non Gun. What do you guys think? - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 09:15, 13 March 2011 (MSK)

			== Movie and Novel gun differences. ==

			I missed most of this little gun party, but I noticed differences in weapons from the novel and the movie:

			Roy Chess: Beretta Model 70:NOVEL MOVIE: Smith and Wesson 586. IDENTIFICATION: The slant infront of the trigger guard denoted it from a Beretta Cheetah to a Model 70.

			Moloch: NOVEL: Smith and Wesson 10 HB. MOVIE: Walther PPK. IDENTIFICATION: One panel in the novel had light shine on the revolver, showing the S&W cylinder latch.

			And the most wierdest gun swap goes to...

			Veidt Security Guards: MOVIE: Glock 17 NOVEL: Smith and Wesson 10 Snub nose.IDENTIFICATION:When Veidt is putting cyanide in Chess's mouth,two guards pull out their revolvers, again one shot at the left side showed the S&W cylinder latch.

			These are minor differences,yes, just wanted to point them out.

			Others.

			NYPD: NOVEL:Model 10's and M1928 Thompson with 20 round box magazine and straight foregrip.
			MOVIE: Model 10,Model 15,and Remington 870.

			US MP: MOVIE: M1 Garand. NOVEL: M14. IDENTIFICATION: A M14 is easily denoted as the magazine was too thick to be a M1 Carbine, so it must have been the M14.

			FACTOID: The famous Riot flashback from the Comedian actually ended differently in the novel, instead of him firing rubber bullets and smoke rounds, he throws in riot gas and finishes the stragglers off with the rubber bullets. -[[User:LaFarge]]

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	Unless someone objects before then, I will remove the anachronistic labels from the weapons tomorrow--[[User:Westernman1987\|Westernman1987]] 20:52, 10 March 2011 (MSK)		Unless someone objects before then, I will remove the anachronistic labels from the weapons tomorrow--[[User:Westernman1987\|Westernman1987]] 20:52, 10 March 2011 (MSK)

			== Weird 1911 ==

			I think the odd looking 1911 in the fifth screen shot [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/File:Watchmen-M1911A1-4.jpg] is a 1911 Non Gun. What do you guys think? - [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] 09:15, 13 March 2011 (MSK)

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	--I have to agree with you on that. The Watchmen universe does takes place in an alternate 1985 setting and it is fairly possible that the "anachronistic" firearms (such as the 2nd Generation Glock 17) that appear in the film were probably developed earlier in the Watchmen universe rather than later on if the timeline had not been altered. If anything, maybe the commentary on the appearance of "anachronistic" firearms should be fixed a little bit so it doesn't appear as an insult to anyone who worked on the film that might view the page.		--I have to agree with you on that. The Watchmen universe does takes place in an alternate 1985 setting and it is fairly possible that the "anachronistic" firearms (such as the 2nd Generation Glock 17) that appear in the film were probably developed earlier in the Watchmen universe rather than later on if the timeline had not been altered. If anything, maybe the commentary on the appearance of "anachronistic" firearms should be fixed a little bit so it doesn't appear as an insult to anyone who worked on the film that might view the page.

			Unless someone objects before then, I will remove the anachronistic labels from the weapons tomorrow--[[User:Westernman1987\|Westernman1987]] 20:52, 10 March 2011 (MSK)

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	I noticed quite a few comments about 'anachronistic' weapons appearing in the film. Are these comments justified considering Watchmen isn't set in our historical timeline? The movie is set in an alternate timeline to ours correct? Perhaps in this alternate timeline, certain weapons might have been developed earlier than in ours?		I noticed quite a few comments about 'anachronistic' weapons appearing in the film. Are these comments justified considering Watchmen isn't set in our historical timeline? The movie is set in an alternate timeline to ours correct? Perhaps in this alternate timeline, certain weapons might have been developed earlier than in ours?

			--I have to agree with you on that. The Watchmen universe does takes place in an alternate 1985 setting and it is fairly possible that the "anachronistic" firearms (such as the 2nd Generation Glock 17) that appear in the film were probably developed earlier in the Watchmen universe rather than later on if the timeline had not been altered. If anything, maybe the commentary on the appearance of "anachronistic" firearms should be fixed a little bit so it doesn't appear as an insult to anyone who worked on the film that might view the page.

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	The use of the [[M1 Garand]] and opening fire on the rioters was based on the Kent State Shooting in 1970, when ~~Nation~~ Guardsmen (not MPs) opened fire on protesting students. There's a little history lesson for you.		The use of the [[M1 Garand]] and opening fire on the rioters was based on the Kent State Shooting in 1970, when National Guardsmen (not MPs) opened fire on protesting students. There's a little history lesson for you.

	== Thompson Prop ==		== Thompson Prop ==

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	The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of the MP's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by peace protesters in [[M14 Rifle]]s carried by the MP's, as seen in this famous ~~photgraph~~:		The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of the MP's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by peace protesters in [[M14 Rifle]]s carried by the MP's, as seen in this famous photograph:

	[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

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	==Opening Credits Massacre==		==Opening Credits Massacre==
	The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of the MP's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by ~~hippy rioters~~ in [[M14 Rifle]]s carried by the MP's, as seen in this famous photgraph:		The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of the MP's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by peace protesters in [[M14 Rifle]]s carried by the MP's, as seen in this famous photgraph:

	[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]		[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]

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	I noticed quite a few comments about 'anachronistic' weapons appearing in the film. Are these comments justified considering Watchmen isn't set in our historical timeline? The movie is set in an alternate timeline to ours correct? Perhaps in this alternate timeline, certain weapons might have been developed earlier than in ours?		I noticed quite a few comments about 'anachronistic' weapons appearing in the film. Are these comments justified considering Watchmen isn't set in our historical timeline? The movie is set in an alternate timeline to ours correct? Perhaps in this alternate timeline, certain weapons might have been developed earlier than in ours?


	~~== JFK Assassination ==~~

	Come on guys, anyone who has read anything at all on the JFK assassination knows that the guy Jack Ruby killed didn't have a damn thing to do with it. He was in a second floor lunch room when it happened. There's no proof whatsoever that he ever ordered or received that crappy Carcano or that .38 revolver. Author John Armstrong in his book "Harvey and Lee: How the CIA framed Oswald" goes into great detail about the supposed coupon to order it, how the money order that was supposedly used to order it was of a serial number that wouldn't have been issued until 1965, and how neither gun can be traced to the patsy that was blamed for it all. That was a professional hit by 4 or 5 different shooters in different locations to perform a coup d'etat and change policies on Vietnam, the oil depletion allowance, arms reductions with the Soviets as well as co-operation in space research, and keeping the CIA intact and in power. [[User:Harleyguy\|Harleyguy]] 18 May 2010 17:25

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	== JFK Assassination ==		== JFK Assassination ==

	Come on guys, anyone who has read anything at all on the JFK assassination knows that the guy Jack Ruby killed didn't have a damn thing to do with it. He was in a second floor lunch room when it happened. There's no proof whatsoever that he ever ordered or received that crappy Carcano or that .38 revolver. Author John Armstrong in his book "Harvey and Lee: How the CIA framed Oswald" goes into great detail about the supposed coupon to order it, how the money order that was supposedly used to order it was of a serial number that wouldn't have been issued until 1965, and how neither gun can be traced the patsy that was blamed for it all. That was a professional hit by 4 or 5 different shooters in different locations to perform a coup d'etat and change policies on Vietnam, the oil depletion allowance, arms reductions with the Soviets as well as co-operation in space research, and keeping the CIA intact and in power. [[User:Harleyguy\|Harleyguy]] 18 May 2010 17:25		Come on guys, anyone who has read anything at all on the JFK assassination knows that the guy Jack Ruby killed didn't have a damn thing to do with it. He was in a second floor lunch room when it happened. There's no proof whatsoever that he ever ordered or received that crappy Carcano or that .38 revolver. Author John Armstrong in his book "Harvey and Lee: How the CIA framed Oswald" goes into great detail about the supposed coupon to order it, how the money order that was supposedly used to order it was of a serial number that wouldn't have been issued until 1965, and how neither gun can be traced to the patsy that was blamed for it all. That was a professional hit by 4 or 5 different shooters in different locations to perform a coup d'etat and change policies on Vietnam, the oil depletion allowance, arms reductions with the Soviets as well as co-operation in space research, and keeping the CIA intact and in power. [[User:Harleyguy\|Harleyguy]] 18 May 2010 17:25