Talk:Vabank - Revision history

Slon95 at 12:41, 23 July 2020

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	::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			The second revolver is clearly some kind of [[Webley RIC]]-derivative. In any case, I do not remember another revolver with the Colt/S&W style frame, but a gate loader. The third is most likely the same. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 08:41, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified pistols */

2020-07-21T17:44:25Z

Unidentified pistols

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	::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Slon95 at 15:25, 21 July 2020

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	:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Slon95: /* Unidentified pistols */

2020-07-21T14:04:37Z

Unidentified pistols

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	I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)		I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
	:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified pistols */

2020-07-21T07:19:03Z

Unidentified pistols

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	I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)		I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
			:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Slon95: /* Unidentified pistols */

2020-07-21T00:26:37Z

Unidentified pistols

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	[[File:Vabank-pistol-select4.jpg]]		[[File:Vabank-pistol-select4.jpg]]
	: Maybe it will be useful. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT)		: Maybe it will be useful. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT)

			I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Greg-Z at 18:53, 17 February 2015

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			== Additional Images ==
			[[File:Vabank-Swordstick.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Kwinto holds a sword cane that he used against the hitman.]]

	== Unidentified pistols ==		== Unidentified pistols ==
	I have problems with pistols in this movie. Please help to identify them.		I have problems with pistols in this movie. Please help to identify them.

Greg-Z: /* Beretta 1915 ID */ Correct.

2012-07-10T04:25:07Z

Beretta 1915 ID: Correct.

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	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Greg-Z: /* Beretta 1915 ID */

2012-07-10T04:18:20Z

Beretta 1915 ID

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	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
			:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

Commando552 at 22:57, 9 July 2012

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	[[File:Vabank-pistol-select4.jpg]]		[[File:Vabank-pistol-select4.jpg]]
	: Maybe it will be useful. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT)		: Maybe it will be useful. [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 10:40, 23 October 2011 (CDT)

			==Beretta 1915 ID==
			Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

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	::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			The second revolver is clearly some kind of [[Webley RIC]]-derivative. In any case, I do not remember another revolver with the Colt/S&W style frame, but a gate loader. The third is most likely the same. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 08:41, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

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	::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			:::OK, let's call Revolver 1 "Custom Nagant". Agree? --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 13:44, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

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	:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
	::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			::On another note, it looks like a 100% original Nagant with a piece welded to the front of the frame, so I don't understand what could get in the way of them if they suddenly wanted to. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 11:25, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

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	I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)		I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
	:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)		:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)
			::The Spaniards made many copies of the Nagant M1895-style, this may be one of them. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)

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	I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)		I don't know why it's still there, but all the revolvers obviously in both films are target versions, fitted with barrel pads to look more "muffled". --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 20:26, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
			:Yes, but they differ from Soviet Nagant-based target revolvers, and I couldn't find any similar Polish design. I don't dare to make a positive identification without any similar sample. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

	==Beretta 1915 ID==		==Beretta 1915 ID==
	Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		Anyone else think the Beretta 1915 is actually a [[Mauser Pocket Pistol]] of some sort? It lacks the distinctive slide stop which is on the 1915, it has a fully exposed barrel rather that the 1915 which has the "bridge" at the front sight, and it looks like the barrel protrudes too far. Also, it has whatever that thing under the front of the frame of a Mauser Pocket Pistol is. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 17:57, 9 July 2012 (CDT)
	:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)		:You are absolutely right, thanks! It is pocket Mauser, <s>and may be the same Model 1910 pistol that was used in another polish movie of the same director Juliusz Machulski, ''[[Deja_Vu_(1988)#1910_Mauser_Pocket_Pistol\|Deja Vu]]''.</s> and most likely Model 1914. So Beretta M15 is going away as ''Vabank'' was the only entry... [[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] 23:18, 9 July 2012 (CDT)