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Spartan198: /* A page for Top Gun? */

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	:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::: I do not think that Su-25 (as well as its successor Su-39) can be used as a fighter)) Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence wanted to joke :)) [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::: I do not think that Su-25 (as well as its successor Su-39) can be used as a fighter)) Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence wanted to joke :)) [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)
			::::The F-111 was originally intended to be ''both'' a fighter and a bomber after Robert McNamara, in all his genius, instructed the Air Force and Navy to combine two programs into one. The former wanted a low-level tactical bomber (F-111A) and the latter a long range interceptor (F-111B) to replace the F-4. The F-111B failed miserably because it was too heavy and was cancelled, leading to the development of the F-14. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 12:58, 18 June 2021 (EDT)

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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

2011-11-22T22:21:40Z

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	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::: I do not think that Su-25 can be used as a fighter)) Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence ~~in 1975~~ wanted to joke :)) [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::: I do not think that Su-25 (as well as its successor Su-39) can be used as a fighter)) Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence wanted to joke :)) [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

2011-11-22T22:17:49Z

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	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::: I do not think that Su-25 can be used as a fighter. Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence in 1975 wanted to joke. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::: I do not think that Su-25 can be used as a fighter)) Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence in 1975 wanted to joke :)) [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

2011-11-22T22:17:18Z

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
			:::: I do not think that Su-25 can be used as a fighter. Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence in 1975 wanted to joke. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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Funkychinaman at 21:45, 22 November 2011

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)
			:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

2011-11-22T21:36:01Z

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy). Before ~~war~~ there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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Flexo: /* A page for Top Gun? */

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
			:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy). Before war there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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500Magnum: /* A page for Top Gun? */

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]

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			It's true, F-14A Tomcats do carry M61 Vulcans on the underside of the nose. But in real life the F-5E/F Tigers (the MiG-28s) are armed with a pair of Pontiac M39A2 20mm cannons mounted on the nose. The M39A2 is not a Gatling weapon like the M61 is. It is a single barrel revolver cannon (which was used on US Aircraft from the 50's through the 80's).

			I just figured I'd throw that in if you guys are curious. (I've seen this movie hundreds of times.) -[[User:500Magnum\|500Magnum]]

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	but oh well. Posting the 2nd unit shots of a fake gatling gun (the guns on the jets don't look like that) is a bit of a stretch. There are no actual firearms in this film. Also there is no such jet as a MIG-28, the MIGS are numbered in odd numbers, MiG-27 Flanker, MiG-29 Fulcrum, MiG-31 Foxhound, etc., [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)		but oh well. Posting the 2nd unit shots of a fake gatling gun (the guns on the jets don't look like that) is a bit of a stretch. There are no actual firearms in this film. Also there is no such jet as a MIG-28, the MIGS are numbered in odd numbers, MiG-27 Flanker, MiG-29 Fulcrum, MiG-31 Foxhound, etc., [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

			:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]

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	:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]		:Well, I figured I'd make the link to the quote on the main page blue instead of red. The point is to show they didn't use the real guns of an actual jet for firing close ups. And like I said, jets are not my field of profession, so I wouldn't have known the MiGs are only in odd numbers. - [[User:Gunmaster45\|Gunmaster45]]
	:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:: For all Russian fighters odd numbers are used only. It still the Soviet tradition of times of 2nd World War. Not only for MiG's. For example wartime fighters: Yak-1, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9; LaGG-3; La-5, La-7. If I am not mistaken, last time even number has been used before War for I-16 fighter. Accordingly even numbers are used for bombers and attack planes (Il-2, Il-4, Pe-2, Pe-8, Tu-2, etc). However there are exceptions. For example an attack plane of Su-25. Letters are the beginning of a surname of the designer(s) (YAKovlev, LAvotchkin, IL'yushin, TUpolev, PEtlyakov, SUkhoy, Mikoyan i (and) Gourevich, etc). Before 2WW there was other system: the first letter often designated plane type (as in the USA). For example: I - a fighter, SB - a bomber of the middle size, TB - a heavy bomber, DB - a bomber of long range of action, R - scout. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 15:33, 22 November 2011 (CST)
	:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)		:::You can argue that the Su-25 is a fighter. The F-111 and the F-117 are listed as fighters, although they are clearly ground attack aircraft, and all A-10s are in "Fighter" units. The biggest exception to the even-odd thing was the Tu-95. --[[User:Funkychinaman\|Funkychinaman]] 15:45, 22 November 2011 (CST)
			:::: I do not think that Su-25 can be used as a fighter. Simply someone in the Ministry of Defence in 1975 wanted to joke. [[User:Flexo\|Flexo]] 16:17, 22 November 2011 (CST)

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