Talk:The Stalin Subway - Revision history

PyramidHead at 14:28, 29 November 2023

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	~~= Trivia =~~
	~~== Tsar cannon ==~~
	It's seen during the mission inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real cannon, produced by Andrei Chokhov in the 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - 890mm. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it's only a monument. This is unusable weapon.
	~~[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Tsar cannon as it standing now - {{convert\|mm\|890}}.]]~~
	[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slightly crooked pose of it on the plinth and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don't allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]

	~~== AK-74 variant ==~~
	The unknown [[AK-74]] variant can be seen in the game "Stalin Subway" menu under the moving USSR newspapers. It seen only partially - magazine and foregrip. The magazine of it show what it was produced for 5,45mm cartridges. But they began producing only since 1972 - highly anachronistic for the summer of 1952.
	~~[[File:AK-74 NTW 12 92.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AK-74 - 5,45x39mm]]~~
	~~[[File:AK-74 SS.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The AK-74 variant can be seen on the left. We can't see exactly what weapon is this, because we can't see all AK.]]~~

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Pyramid Silent: /* Tsar cannon */

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Tsar cannon

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	== Tsar cannon ==		== Tsar cannon ==
	It's seen during the mission inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real cannon, produced by Andrei Chokhov in the 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - 890mm. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it's only a monument. This is unusable weapon.		It's seen during the mission inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real cannon, produced by Andrei Chokhov in the 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - 890mm. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it's only a monument. This is unusable weapon.
	[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Tsar cannon as it standing now - ~~890mm~~.]]		[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Tsar cannon as it standing now - {{convert\|mm\|890}}.]]
	[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slightly crooked pose of it on the plinth and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don't allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]		[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slightly crooked pose of it on the plinth and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don't allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]

Pyr0m4n14c: /* Trivia */

2019-08-13T17:34:44Z

Trivia

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	::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)		::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)

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	I don't see any reason why the above Tsar cannon and AK-74 shouldn't be on the main page. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:39, 13 August 2019 (EDT)		I don't see any reason why the above Tsar cannon and AK-74 shouldn't be on the main page. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:39, 13 August 2019 (EDT)
			:Agreed, honestly. If anyone wants to put them in, I certainly wouldn't object. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c\|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c\|talk]]) 13:34, 13 August 2019 (EDT)

Spartan198 at 13:39, 13 August 2019

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	::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)		::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)

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			I don't see any reason why the above Tsar cannon and AK-74 shouldn't be on the main page. [[User:Spartan198\|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198\|talk]]) 09:39, 13 August 2019 (EDT)

Slon95 at 18:57, 15 February 2017

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 [[File:Tsar cannon.JPG|thumb|400px|none|Tsar cannon as it standing now - 890mm.]]
 [[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slightly crooked pose of it on the plinth and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don't allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]
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 * I was in the long travelling from Tomsk to Baikal. Now I returned for the work on this page.
 == AK-74 variant WTF ==

Slon95: /* Trivia */ /Minor Grammatical Corrections/

2016-04-25T12:41:03Z

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	= Trivia =		= Trivia =
	== Tsar cannon ==		== Tsar cannon ==
	It`s seen during the ~~mussion~~ inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real ~~gun~~, produced by Andrei Chokhov in 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - ~~120 cm~~. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it`s only monument. This is ~~unusuable~~ weapon.		It's seen during the mission inside Kremlin in the "Stalin Subway". This is the real cannon, produced by Andrei Chokhov in the 1586. It has the highest calibre among cannons - 890mm. Contrary to the many hypotheses, the carriage and rounding shot near it is actually fake - the carriage were produced only in the 1835, and rounding shots are actually hollow. This gun had to be fire a charge of small stones, but this gun was never fired and now it's only a monument. This is unusable weapon.
	[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Tsar cannon as it standing now - ~~120 cm~~.]]		[[File:Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Tsar cannon as it standing now - 890mm.]]
	[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the ~~slighly~~ crooked pose of it on the ~~plinthand~~ and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don`t allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]		[[File:SS Tsar cannon.JPG\|thumb\|none\|500px\|Tsar cannon in the game from the almost the same foreshortening as a picture higher. Note on the slightly crooked pose of it on the plinth and lacking the safing chain around the gun. This shot was produced in no-clipping mode, because script don't allow the player to be nearer to the monument.]]

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Slon95: /* AK-47 */

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AK-47

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	:I might add that if I get around to updating the page's text. Anytime I tend to do it, it gets undone by the page creator. Besides that, are we sure that's a SVT-38? It looks more like a standard SVT-40 to me. And it'd make more sense for it to be a SVT-40 rather than the older, less produced and more hated SVT-38. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 16:11, 2 February 2016 (EST)		:I might add that if I get around to updating the page's text. Anytime I tend to do it, it gets undone by the page creator. Besides that, are we sure that's a SVT-38? It looks more like a standard SVT-40 to me. And it'd make more sense for it to be a SVT-40 rather than the older, less produced and more hated SVT-38. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 16:11, 2 February 2016 (EST)

			::Hmm, you're right. It's really much more like the SVT-40. It probably bug of the developers with gun's name, as well as in the game STEN Mk.V incorrectly called as "STEN Mk.II". Thanks! --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (EST)

PaperCake at 21:10, 2 February 2016

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	= AK-47 =		= AK-47 =
	I also want to add, that the AK-47 used in the game, is the 1953 final production model aka "Type III", which makes it anachronism for the first game (and for the second game, too, because it is very unlikely that the 1953 model immediately entered into mass use in a 1953 year). Historically, the best would be a Type I or Type II. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:33, 2 February 2016 (EST)		I also want to add, that the AK-47 used in the game, is the 1953 final production model aka "Type III", which makes it anachronism for the first game (and for the second game, too, because it is very unlikely that the 1953 model immediately entered into mass use in a 1953 year). Historically, the best would be a Type I or Type II. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:33, 2 February 2016 (EST)

			:I might add that if I get around to updating the page's text. Anytime I tend to do it, it gets undone by the page creator. Besides that, are we sure that's a SVT-38? It looks more like a standard SVT-40 to me. And it'd make more sense for it to be a SVT-40 rather than the older, less produced and more hated SVT-38. --[[User:PaperCake\|PaperCake]] 16:11, 2 February 2016 (EST)

Slon95 at 19:33, 2 February 2016

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	AK-74 got into serial production well - only in mid 1970s. But that's only half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that the weapon itself make NO appearance in the game and the only "evidence" presented is a very blurry picture that only depict the handguard of an AK-type rifle. That's making any attemp of identifying the rifle neary impossible.<br>		AK-74 got into serial production well - only in mid 1970s. But that's only half of the problem. The other half of the problem is that the weapon itself make NO appearance in the game and the only "evidence" presented is a very blurry picture that only depict the handguard of an AK-type rifle. That's making any attemp of identifying the rifle neary impossible.<br>
	As such, I remove this section. --[[User:RussianTrooper\|RussianTrooper]] ([[User talk:RussianTrooper\|talk]]) 11:50, 12 March 2015 (EDT)		As such, I remove this section. --[[User:RussianTrooper\|RussianTrooper]] ([[User talk:RussianTrooper\|talk]]) 11:50, 12 March 2015 (EDT)

			= AK-47 =
			I also want to add, that the AK-47 used in the game, is the 1953 final production model aka "Type III", which makes it anachronism for the first game (and for the second game, too, because it is very unlikely that the 1953 model immediately entered into mass use in a 1953 year). Historically, the best would be a Type I or Type II. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:33, 2 February 2016 (EST)