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Nanomat: ID the knife

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ID the knife

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			=Miscellaneous=
			==SP1 Marine Combat Knife (custom prop)==
			The knife thrown by Trinity at the SWAT in the rooftop scene is a custom made [https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/318/lot/96005?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F318%3Fpage%3D12%26items%3D100 prop] of an SP1 Marine Combat Knife with some additional alterations such as a compass built into the hilt pommel. As of 2023, the valuation of the prop is estimated to be £3000 - £5000.
			[[Image:Ontario SP1 Marine Combat Knife.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|An Ontario SP1 Spec Plus Marine Combat Knife.]]

			=Discussion=

	== Mouse's rotary shotguns ==		== Mouse's rotary shotguns ==

MT2008: /* Skorpion */

2021-12-22T22:00:17Z

Skorpion

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	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)		:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

			::::Let's be careful, Nanomat - the links you provided are to the rubber stunt replicas of the Skorpions that were used in the movie. Those were built for drop scenes, but they would have been cast from real, blank-adapted firearms, which would not have been "fake props" (whatever you mean by that). As for the extended magazines on the Skorpions: I do concur that they could have been built by John Bowring (the movie's armorer, and the same guy who built the 12-gauge auto shotguns used by Mouse in the movie), since nobody has built magazines which hold more than 20 rounds for the .32 APC Vz.61 Skorpions. The flash hiders and grips on the Skorpions also appear to be custom jobs, probably to make the guns look more imposing. I should point out that in the airsoft world, there are extended 40-round length magazines available for airsoft Vz.61s, but the guns in ''[[The Matrix]]'' are not airsoft weapons; I'm pretty sure the airsoft 40-round Vz.61 magazines were built specifically to replicate the look of the weapons in this movie. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 17:00, 22 December 2021 (EST)

Ultimate94ninja: /* Skorpion */

2021-09-11T20:21:59Z

Skorpion

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	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:::Good find! I've been suspecting that ~~thy~~ were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)		:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

Ultimate94ninja: /* Skorpion */

2021-09-11T20:21:24Z

Skorpion

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	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			:::Good find! I've been suspecting that thy were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

Nanomat: /* Skorpion */

2021-09-10T23:35:57Z

Skorpion

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	:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)

AgentGumby: /* Skorpion */

2021-09-10T23:28:06Z

Skorpion

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	::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)		::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
	:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)

Ultimate94ninja: /* Skorpion */

2021-09-10T19:33:15Z

Skorpion

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	:::Wait, it said 30 last time I looked, did someone change that? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 00:52, 7 July 2016 (EDT)		:::Wait, it said 30 last time I looked, did someone change that? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 00:52, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
	::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)		::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
			:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)

Slon95: /* Skorpion */

2021-05-26T18:51:18Z

Skorpion

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	::Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's .32 ACP in the movie. Thing is I couldn't find info about .32 ACP 30-round mags for it (and much less the 36-rounder mentioned [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion\|there]]). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 11:02, 5 July 2016 (EDT)		::Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's .32 ACP in the movie. Thing is I couldn't find info about .32 ACP 30-round mags for it (and much less the 36-rounder mentioned [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion\|there]]). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 11:02, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
	:::Wait, it said 30 last time I looked, did someone change that? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 00:52, 7 July 2016 (EDT)		:::Wait, it said 30 last time I looked, did someone change that? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 00:52, 7 July 2016 (EDT)
			::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)

Mr. Wolf: /* Skorpion */

2016-07-07T04:52:41Z

Skorpion

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	:I've heard of them but I've never seen them, the ones in the movie are not another caliber other than .32 ACP cause they actually have a curve. Maybe the 30 rounders were rare and made in small numbers? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 21:40, 24 June 2016 (EDT)		:I've heard of them but I've never seen them, the ones in the movie are not another caliber other than .32 ACP cause they actually have a curve. Maybe the 30 rounders were rare and made in small numbers? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 21:40, 24 June 2016 (EDT)
	::Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's .32 ACP in the movie. Thing is I couldn't find info about .32 ACP 30-round mags for it (and much less the 36-rounder mentioned [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion\|there]]). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 11:02, 5 July 2016 (EDT)		::Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it's .32 ACP in the movie. Thing is I couldn't find info about .32 ACP 30-round mags for it (and much less the 36-rounder mentioned [[Sa. Vz.61 Skorpion\|there]]). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 11:02, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
			:::Wait, it said 30 last time I looked, did someone change that? [[User:Mr. Wolf\|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf\|talk]]) 00:52, 7 July 2016 (EDT)

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	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)		:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

			::::Let's be careful, Nanomat - the links you provided are to the rubber stunt replicas of the Skorpions that were used in the movie. Those were built for drop scenes, but they would have been cast from real, blank-adapted firearms, which would not have been "fake props" (whatever you mean by that). As for the extended magazines on the Skorpions: I do concur that they could have been built by John Bowring (the movie's armorer, and the same guy who built the 12-gauge auto shotguns used by Mouse in the movie), since nobody has built magazines which hold more than 20 rounds for the .32 APC Vz.61 Skorpions. The flash hiders and grips on the Skorpions also appear to be custom jobs, probably to make the guns look more imposing. I should point out that in the airsoft world, there are extended 40-round length magazines available for airsoft Vz.61s, but the guns in ''[[The Matrix]]'' are not airsoft weapons; I'm pretty sure the airsoft 40-round Vz.61 magazines were built specifically to replicate the look of the weapons in this movie. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 17:00, 22 December 2021 (EST)

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	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:::Good find! I've been suspecting that ~~thy~~ were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)		:::Good find! I've been suspecting that they were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

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	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			:::Good find! I've been suspecting that thy were custom-built, given the lack of Google search results for the magazines. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 16:21, 11 September 2021 (EDT)

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	:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
	:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			::Yes, it is a fake prop: [https://www.icollector.com/Keanu-Reeves-Neo-pair-of-stunt-Skorpion-submachine-guns-from-The-Matrix_i35088741 source 1], [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/keanu-reeves-neo-pair-of-stunt-skorpion-submachine-guns-from-the-matrix/a/997062-2477.s source 2] --[[User:Nanomat\|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat\|talk]]) 19:35, 10 September 2021 (EDT)

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	::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)		::::[https://firearmsuk.org/featured-1/vz-61-scorpion-review-by-harry-jackson/] This is even more likely to be the .22 variant (which is still 20 shots), since the .32 never had the factory 30 round magazines. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 14:51, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
	:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)		:::::The .22 LR version of the Skorpion didn't exist at the time of the film's release. It was introduced much more recently, in 2016 (plus it has a longer magazine that the movie gun). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja\|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja\|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2021 (EDT)
			:I'd bet they are custom fabricated given the muzzles. The prop department was able to put together those custom rotary shotguns; I'd think magazines for blank cartridges are probably something they could've made.--[[User:AgentGumby\|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby\|talk]]) 19:28, 10 September 2021 (EDT)