Talk:The King of the Mountain - Revision history

WZHBot: WZHBot moved page Talk:King of the Mountain, The to Talk:The King of the Mountain over redirect: Bot: Fixing title according to new titling rule.

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WZHBot moved page Talk:King of the Mountain, The to Talk:The King of the Mountain over redirect: Bot: Fixing title according to new titling rule.

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Ominae at 17:11, 19 June 2023

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	[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]

	:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)		:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:92FS_Brigadier_pistol.jpg
	[[File:~~44 elenco~~.jpg~~\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]~~
	:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)		:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)

Sebastian2A at 20:15, 31 January 2015

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	There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)		There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)



			I checked again, but these are really the only "clean" shots of the rifle I could get (very few steady shots and for a strange reason, most of the time it's of the left side of the rifle). Plus, you don't get to see the attackers and the rifles until late in the movie. FYI, it is only one sniper rifle, for one of the attackers. Here is another screencap of the gun, it seems to be a paddle style bolt all the way. I also joined three close-ups: one of the trigger guard, one of the muzzle break, and a last one of the cartridge belt.

			PS: my remark wasn't meant to be mocking, but your point is duly noted for next time. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 January 2015 (EST)[[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])

			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-05.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the trigger guard.]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-07.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the muzzle break.]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-08.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the cartridge belt.]]




	[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]		[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]

MoviePropMaster2008 at 19:06, 31 January 2015

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	==Please help ID==		==Please help ID==

	There ~~are~~ at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One ~~has~~ a paddle style bolt, the other ~~has~~ a standard ball end style. The back of the bolts ~~are~~ different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)		There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)

	[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]		[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]

MoviePropMaster2008 at 19:05, 31 January 2015

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	==Please help ID==		==Please help ID==

			There are at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One has a paddle style bolt, the other has a standard ball end style. The back of the bolts are different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)

	[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]		[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]

MoviePropMaster2008 at 19:03, 31 January 2015

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	The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])		The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])

			==try to limit potentially Mocking comments==
			We should point out cheap or airsoft optics on films, but never make comments that seem to mock the decision. Movie productions are harsh and super expensive optics are usually only used on 'hero closeups' in major motion pictures. Actors are notorious for breaking or roughhandling of props, so most armorers give actors the cheapest scopes they can, anticipating them to be broken or damaged during filming.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:03, 31 January 2015 (EST)

Sebastian2A at 13:42, 31 January 2015

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	[[File:44 elenco.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]		[[File:44 elenco.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]
	:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)		:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)



			The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])

KINKI'boy: /* Beretta? */

2015-01-31T06:46:37Z

Beretta?

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	:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)		:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)
			[[File:44 elenco.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]
			:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)

Hi, My Name Is GameZone: /* Beretta? */

2015-01-31T04:48:50Z

Beretta?

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	[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]

			:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)

Ben41: Ben41 moved page Talk:The King of the Mountain to Talk:King of the Mountain, The

2015-01-31T01:52:16Z

Ben41 moved page Talk:The King of the Mountain to Talk:King of the Mountain, The

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	[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]		[[File:King-Mountain Beretta92-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]]

	:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)		:Could be a [[Beretta 96 pistol series\|Beretta 96]]. [[User:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|Hi, My Name Is GameZone]] ([[User talk:Hi, My Name Is GameZone\|talk]]) 23:48, 30 January 2015 (EST)https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:92FS_Brigadier_pistol.jpg
	[[File:~~44 elenco~~.jpg~~\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]~~
	:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)		:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)

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	There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)		There could be at least TWO different bolt action rifles here. One could have a paddle style bolt, the other looks like it might be a standard ball end style. (better screencaps would help with this) The back of the bolts seem like they might be different shapes as well. In the film are there several rifles? or are several people sharing ONE rifle?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008\|talk]]) 14:05, 31 January 2015 (EST)



			I checked again, but these are really the only "clean" shots of the rifle I could get (very few steady shots and for a strange reason, most of the time it's of the left side of the rifle). Plus, you don't get to see the attackers and the rifles until late in the movie. FYI, it is only one sniper rifle, for one of the attackers. Here is another screencap of the gun, it seems to be a paddle style bolt all the way. I also joined three close-ups: one of the trigger guard, one of the muzzle break, and a last one of the cartridge belt.

			PS: my remark wasn't meant to be mocking, but your point is duly noted for next time. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 15:15, 31 January 2015 (EST)[[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])

			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-05.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-06.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the trigger guard.]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-07.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the muzzle break.]]
			[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-08.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\| Close-up of the cartridge belt.]]




	[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]		[[File:King-Mountain SniperRifle-01.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The first attacker holding the rifle.]]

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	[[File:44 elenco.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]		[[File:44 elenco.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Beretta 92FS Brigadier - 9x19mm]]
	:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)		:This Beretta's pistol is [[Beretta 92FS Brigadier]]? --[[User:KINKI'boy\|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy\|talk]]) 15:47, 31 January 2015 (JST)



			The official handguns for the Guardia Civil were Astra until the late 70s when they switched to Llama (mostly M-82s) and foreign manufacturers like Beretta and HK (P7 & P8). I do not know the exact gun they used at that time (2007), but for an ordinary patrol guard (distinguishable by his uniform) I think a standard Beretta - even if a little outdated - is realistic. Could be a Brigadier though, but the slides do not seem large enough. As for the Beretta 96, I highly doubt it, since the .40 S&W is still considered an exotic caliber here in Europe. Only a few special units within the police and the military use it. The staffing caliber is the 9mm. Given the budget of the movie, and the kind of scope mounted, it is also possible that the gun is a prop. -- [[User:Sebastian2A\|Sebastian2A]] ([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]]) 08:42, 31 January 2015 (EST)([[User talk:Sebastian2A\|talk]])