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	== Eldridge's Eye Protection ==		== Eldridge's Eye Protection ==
	Although it may be irrelevant, does anyone happen to know what brand or type of eye protection (or shooting glasses) that Eldridge uses throughout the movie? My guess is the Oakley M-Frame Sweeps with the clear lenses, but I'm not sure. Thanks. --''[[User:Blemo\|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#D3D3D3">'''B'''</font><font color="#A9A9A9">'''le'''</font><font color="#808080">'''mo'''</font></span>~~]] [[Image:Progress Wheel.gif~~]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small> [[Special:Contributions/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''EMAIL'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="By the time you finish reading this hidden message, twelve nuclear warheads will have been launched toward your location. Thank you and have a nice day.">'''MESSAGE'''</span></font></small></sub>'' 08:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)		Although it may be irrelevant, does anyone happen to know what brand or type of eye protection (or shooting glasses) that Eldridge uses throughout the movie? My guess is the Oakley M-Frame Sweeps with the clear lenses, but I'm not sure. Thanks. --''[[User:Blemo\|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#D3D3D3">'''B'''</font><font color="#A9A9A9">'''le'''</font><font color="#808080">'''mo'''</font></span>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small> [[Special:Contributions/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''EMAIL'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="By the time you finish reading this hidden message, twelve nuclear warheads will have been launched toward your location. Thank you and have a nice day.">'''MESSAGE'''</span></font></small></sub>'' 08:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

	I reckon that is ESS product, check their page cuz I dont know what the product name is		I reckon that is ESS product, check their page cuz I dont know what the product name is

Greg-Z: /* M 136. */

2014-03-25T11:02:28Z

M 136.

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	On a sidenote, what pistol does James have when he goes on his little vigilante crusade? Most of the camera angles for that part, make it hard to identify the trigger guard.		On a sidenote, what pistol does James have when he goes on his little vigilante crusade? Most of the camera angles for that part, make it hard to identify the trigger guard.
	:It's a Beretta 92 series. I'm pretty sure it was a 92FS, from the hooked trigger, but I'll have to check. --''[[User:Blemo\|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#D3D3D3">'''B'''</font><font color="#A9A9A9">'''le'''</font><font color="#808080">'''mo'''</font></span>~~]] [[Image:Progress Wheel.gif~~]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small> [[Special:Contributions/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''EMAIL'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="By the time you finish reading this hidden message, twelve nuclear warheads will have been launched toward your location. Thank you and have a nice day.">'''MESSAGE'''</span></font></small></sub>'' 10:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)		:It's a Beretta 92 series. I'm pretty sure it was a 92FS, from the hooked trigger, but I'll have to check. --''[[User:Blemo\|<span style="color: gray; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="#D3D3D3">'''B'''</font><font color="#A9A9A9">'''le'''</font><font color="#808080">'''mo'''</font></span>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small> [[Special:Contributions/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small>[[Special:Emailuser/Blemo\|<font color="#A9A9A9">'''EMAIL'''</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="By the time you finish reading this hidden message, twelve nuclear warheads will have been launched toward your location. Thank you and have a nice day.">'''MESSAGE'''</span></font></small></sub>'' 10:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

	== Six wheeled armore vehicles. ==		== Six wheeled armore vehicles. ==

Scarecrow: /* Barrett Shells */

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Barrett Shells

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	What I mean is that they have the appearance of live rounds. They have the slug in the shell casing. But when Sanborn reloads, they show two different shots. In one, he holds a loaded magazine, but in the other he has what looks like just empty shell casings. Watch the part again if you can and tell me what you think. --[[User:FirearmFanatic\|FirearmFanatic]] 12:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)		What I mean is that they have the appearance of live rounds. They have the slug in the shell casing. But when Sanborn reloads, they show two different shots. In one, he holds a loaded magazine, but in the other he has what looks like just empty shell casings. Watch the part again if you can and tell me what you think. --[[User:FirearmFanatic\|FirearmFanatic]] 12:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
			:They'd be dummy rounds (no propellent or primer) though from what you're explaining it sounds like they failed at editing, ussaly dummy rounds would be shown being loaded, then blanks would be switched out off camera then filming would continue giving the effect that a round had been loaded but in reality a blank is being fired (look into the death of Brandon lee to see how they can still go wrong...)

	== Airsoft? ==		== Airsoft? ==

Commando552: /* The PMC AKMS is not really AKMS */

2012-02-02T16:08:58Z

The PMC AKMS is not really AKMS

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	::::::::Cheers, -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 08:48, 2 February 2012 (CST)		::::::::Cheers, -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 08:48, 2 February 2012 (CST)
			:::::::::These are not the same as the guns from ''The Kingodom'', as those ones are fitted with a different RIS system and use the standard stamped AKMS folding stock, wheras these guns use an AK-47 type stock. I don't see the problem with calling this a WASR-10, as this is the only gun that has a stamped receiver without the dimple above the magazine well. Although these may be built up from several different rifles, the receiver is unique to a WASR, and everything else matches a WASR-10. I think what I read before about the underfolding being rare (less than 300) was BS, as have googled it and have found a few of them for sale at about $400 - $500 so they are obviously around. Quoting from Wikipedia: "''After the sunset of the assault weapons ban, importers were able to legally equip WASR-10s with compensators, bayonet lugs, and folding stocks, thus making the GP WASR-10 (with GP standing for general purpose).''" --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 10:08, 2 February 2012 (CST)

MT2008: /* The PMC AKMS is not really AKMS */

2012-02-02T14:48:24Z

The PMC AKMS is not really AKMS

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	:::::I mentioned about the filming location because you mentioned about only a few being exported into the US. Another gun that I thought it could be when I was looking on the AK page was the Bulgarian AR AKs. Is that a possibility? I don't know a lot about the differences between specific varients down to the little details lol. I only wondered that it could be an airsoft version because I'm pretty sure that one of the airsoft companies made an AK model that looked very similar to that at one point. --[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 10:07, 8 October 2011 (CDT)		:::::I mentioned about the filming location because you mentioned about only a few being exported into the US. Another gun that I thought it could be when I was looking on the AK page was the Bulgarian AR AKs. Is that a possibility? I don't know a lot about the differences between specific varients down to the little details lol. I only wondered that it could be an airsoft version because I'm pretty sure that one of the airsoft companies made an AK model that looked very similar to that at one point. --[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 10:07, 8 October 2011 (CDT)
	::::::Is definitely not an Arsenel AR as that has no flash hider, larger type front sight and a milled receiver. The easiest way to tell receiver type is the long rectangular indent indent in the lower receiver above the magazine well on a milled receiver, wheras normally stamped receiver guns have a much smaller rounded indent above the magazine well. The gun in this film has neither, and the only AK pattern rifles I can think of that don't have an indent here are the Valmet M76 (which this isn't), and a WASR. I'm going to change the page to a WASR, as even if that isn't what the gun is, it is identical in every way as far as I can tell.--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 11:37, 8 October 2011 (CDT)		::::::Is definitely not an Arsenel AR as that has no flash hider, larger type front sight and a milled receiver. The easiest way to tell receiver type is the long rectangular indent indent in the lower receiver above the magazine well on a milled receiver, wheras normally stamped receiver guns have a much smaller rounded indent above the magazine well. The gun in this film has neither, and the only AK pattern rifles I can think of that don't have an indent here are the Valmet M76 (which this isn't), and a WASR. I'm going to change the page to a WASR, as even if that isn't what the gun is, it is identical in every way as far as I can tell.--[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] 11:37, 8 October 2011 (CDT)

			::::::::Here are my thoughts on this issue:

			::::::::(1.) Someone pointed out that the weapon might have come from local armorers. Actually, most of the guns in this movie were supplied by American and Canadian armories and imported to Jordan for filming (if you look at the credits, the credited armorers include David Fencl, who is an American, and Charles Taylor, who is Canadian). With some exceptions - i.e. the Beretta 92 which came from a Jordanian military officer after the 92FS got held up in customs - we can assume most of the hardware in this film came from American armories.

			::::::::(2.) I have postulated (though without evidence) that the AKMS rifles in this movie are the same ones from ''[[The Kingdom]]'' (an American movie filmed in the U.S.), except with the AK-74 flash hiders removed.

			::::::::(3.) Movie guns are often built up from parts of different guns of different brands. This is particularly true of AR variants, which is why I always insist that we never label a gun as a "Colt M16A2" or "Colt M4A1" instead of just "M4A1". Indeed, in this movie, as I pointed out, the M4 used by Eldridge is actually an M4 upper on a Lewis Machine & Tool lower receiver. I would guess that the same is true of the AKMS rifles - they're custom-built guns that were constructed from stock receivers and fitted with parts kits.

			::::::::(4.) Therefore, I do not want the rifles to be labeled as "WASR-10s" since we can't verify this. "AKMS" is the catch-all term for ALL rifles that look like AKMS until we can verify exact manufacturer. If any armorers on here can get us more info on these guns and prove that they are WASR-10s, then cool. Until then, we call them "AKMS".

			::::::::Cheers, -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] 08:48, 2 February 2012 (CST)

Cool-breeze: /* Blood covered rounds?? */

2011-11-02T22:53:04Z

Blood covered rounds??

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	I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt		I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt
	::Anyway you have sand in any gun chamber will definitely damage the weapon in one way or another. Right? - [[User:S9771773G\|S9771773G]]		::Anyway you have sand in any gun chamber will definitely damage the weapon in one way or another. Right? - [[User:S9771773G\|S9771773G]]

			I don't think it will damage the weapon but it can clog up the internals causing a possible failure. --[[User:Cool-breeze\|cool-breeze]] 17:53, 2 November 2011 (CDT)

	== Taking it a bit further... ==		== Taking it a bit further... ==

S9771773G: /* Blood covered rounds?? */

2011-11-02T14:56:04Z

Blood covered rounds??

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	Just looking at the condition of that Barret with all the dust and sand, I would think that just that would be enough to jam the weapon.--[[User:MarineCorps1\|MarineCorps1]] 22:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)		Just looking at the condition of that Barret with all the dust and sand, I would think that just that would be enough to jam the weapon.--[[User:MarineCorps1\|MarineCorps1]] 22:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
	I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt		I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt
	::Anyway you have sand in any gun chamber will definitely damage the weapon in one way or another. Right?		::Anyway you have sand in any gun chamber will definitely damage the weapon in one way or another. Right? - [[User:S9771773G\|S9771773G]]

	== Taking it a bit further... ==		== Taking it a bit further... ==

S9771773G: /* Blood covered rounds?? */

2011-11-02T14:34:26Z

Blood covered rounds??

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	Just looking at the condition of that Barret with all the dust and sand, I would think that just that would be enough to jam the weapon.--[[User:MarineCorps1\|MarineCorps1]] 22:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)		Just looking at the condition of that Barret with all the dust and sand, I would think that just that would be enough to jam the weapon.--[[User:MarineCorps1\|MarineCorps1]] 22:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
	I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt		I assumed the sand that was kicking about would stick to the blood on the round, and tats what would cause a jam. Tho i also thought it would have been easier to empty the mag, and load the rounds into the breech directly, one shot at a time - Captain Snikt
			::Anyway you have sand in any gun chamber will definitely damage the weapon in one way or another. Right?

	== Taking it a bit further... ==		== Taking it a bit further... ==

Markit at 03:34, 24 October 2011

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	How about the beginning caption when the movie opens that says "Baghdad 2004".		How about the beginning caption when the movie opens that says "Baghdad 2004".
			::That title only appeared in some of the releases of the film - for instance it is on the DVD, but not on the version screened internationally at film festivals.--[[User:Markit\|Markit]] 22:34, 23 October 2011 (CDT)

	:::Little off question. Why most hi-speeds ignore helmet covers? Pimpin'?		:::Little off question. Why most hi-speeds ignore helmet covers? Pimpin'?
	:If it is set in 2004, then the ACU uniforms are anachronistic at the time as the ACU uniform was not issued until February 2005. A more accurate choice would be the DCU uniform. Also, the ACU uniforms in the movie appear to have an inaccurate appearance, such as the nametapes and the "U.S. Army" title in the wrong spots. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 20:43, 23 October 2011 (CDT)		:If it is set in 2004, then the ACU uniforms are anachronistic at the time as the ACU uniform was not issued until February 2005. A more accurate choice would be the DCU uniform. Also, the ACU uniforms in the movie appear to have an inaccurate appearance, such as the nametapes and the "U.S. Army" title in the wrong spots. - [[User:Kenny99\|Kenny99]] 20:43, 23 October 2011 (CDT)
			::I dislike dredging up this two year old debate, but it isn't particularly clear whether the director/producers intentionally set the film in 2004 when it was being made- the title "2004" was added in afterwards when the movie got a wider release. At the same time, some of the inaccuracies also can be attributable to the film's relatively low budget (around $10 million iirc)- that probably meant less retakes to cover up mistakes such as the guns changing or incorrect nametapes and so on. --[[User:Markit\|Markit]] 22:34, 23 October 2011 (CDT)

	== Watermarked pic ==		== Watermarked pic ==