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	::If Gerard’s gun is a G22, then as far as I can tell, yes, this is the first movie to feature a .40 S&W Glock. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 12:28, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		::If Gerard’s gun is a G22, then as far as I can tell, yes, this is the first movie to feature a .40 S&W Glock. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 12:28, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

			:::So after all these years, I was finally able to confirm that the Glock carried by Gerard in this movie is indeed a G22 and not a G17: It was auctioned off by Heritage Auction House in 2018 (see [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/tommy-lee-jones-samuel-gerard-glock-g22-pistol-from-the-fugitive/a/997049-2492.s here]). Not that it matters - the page was already updated based on the visual evidence discussed above. I'm adding the pics to the page now. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 22:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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	: - The stainless revolver looks like a S&W Model 686. The semiautos are kinda tough to make out. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 13:03, 28 March 2013 (EDT)		: - The stainless revolver looks like a S&W Model 686. The semiautos are kinda tough to make out. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 13:03, 28 March 2013 (EDT)

			I think that the Remington M10, in fact, a certain Stevens. --[[User:Slon95\|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95\|talk]]) 16:06, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

	==Transit Cop's Revolver==		==Transit Cop's Revolver==

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	In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)
	: [[File:Fugit_433.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]] <BR> If you look close here the second pin (just under the slide) looks to be visible in this image also, in which case I'd concur Gerard's gun in the film is in fact a G22. On that note, would that make this film be the first to feature the .40 cal Glocks? [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 11:43, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		: [[File:Fugit_433.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]] <BR> If you look close here the second pin (just under the slide) looks to be visible in this image also, in which case I'd concur Gerard's gun in the film is in fact a G22. On that note, would that make this film be the first to feature the .40 cal Glocks? [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 11:43, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

			::I can’t really tell if the Glock has a locking block pin in that picture. It also doesn’t seem to have the pin in that image of Gerard cocking the gun behind his back. Also, Joe Pantoliano’s pistol clearly has no locking block pin, so it’s a G19 and not a G23.

			::If Gerard’s gun is a G22, then as far as I can tell, yes, this is the first movie to feature a .40 S&W Glock. -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 12:28, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

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	In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)
	: [[File:Fugit_433.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]] <BR> If you look close here the second pin (just under the slide) looks to be visible in this image also, in which case I'd concur Gerard's gun in the film is in fact a G22. On that note, would this film be the first to feature the .40 cal Glocks? [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 11:43, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		: [[File:Fugit_433.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]] <BR> If you look close here the second pin (just under the slide) looks to be visible in this image also, in which case I'd concur Gerard's gun in the film is in fact a G22. On that note, would that make this film be the first to feature the .40 cal Glocks? [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 11:43, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

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	In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)		In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)
			: [[File:Fugit_433.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px]] <BR> If you look close here the second pin (just under the slide) looks to be visible in this image also, in which case I'd concur Gerard's gun in the film is in fact a G22. On that note, would this film be the first to feature the .40 cal Glocks? [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 11:43, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

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	==The Glocks' calibers (Part 2)==		==The Glocks' calibers (Part 2)==

	Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in ~~some scenes of~~ ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':		Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible on the Glocks used in ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':

	[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 17 2nd Generation - 9x19mm. Note absence of locking block pin behind takedown lever.]]		[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 17 2nd Generation - 9x19mm. Note absence of locking block pin behind takedown lever.]]

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	Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':		Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':

	[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W]]		[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 17 2nd Generation - 9x19mm. Note absence of locking block pin behind takedown lever.]]
			[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W. Note that unlike the Glock 17 above, this weapon clearly has a second pin near the top of the frame behind the takedown lever.]]
	[[Image:USM-G22-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Royce's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]		[[Image:USM-G22-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Royce's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]
	[[Image:USM-G22-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Gerard's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]		[[Image:USM-G22-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Gerard's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]

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	==The Glocks' calibers (Part 2)==		==The Glocks' calibers (Part 2)==

	Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was ~~like~~ a -17 rather than a -22. However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':		Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':

	[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W]]		[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W]]

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	: Possible, but I doubt that it's a Colt. While the Mk V Trooper did contain both a vented rib and ejector-rod shroud, it was only around a couple of years before being replaced by the King Cobra. I don't think it had a Colt style cylinder-latch either. A Llama seems more likely, but whether it's a Martial or Comanche is beyond me right now. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:36, 24 September 2013 (EDT)		: Possible, but I doubt that it's a Colt. While the Mk V Trooper did contain both a vented rib and ejector-rod shroud, it was only around a couple of years before being replaced by the King Cobra. I don't think it had a Colt style cylinder-latch either. A Llama seems more likely, but whether it's a Martial or Comanche is beyond me right now. [[User:StanTheMan\|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan\|talk]]) 17:36, 24 September 2013 (EDT)

			==The Glocks' calibers (Part 2)==

			Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was like a -17 rather than a -22. However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':

			[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W]]
			[[Image:USM-G22-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Royce's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]
			[[Image:USM-G22-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Gerard's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]

			However, in at least some scenes, it seems to be visible in ''[[The Fugitive]]'' as well:

			[[Image:Fugit 423.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|From ''[[The Fugitive]]'']]

			In this image, it looks as though there is a locking block pin visible behind the takedown lever. So maybe this is a Glock 22 after all? Anyone have any better screencaps from this movie which show more detail on the frame so that we can confirm? -[[User:MT2008\|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008\|talk]]) 09:37, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

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	Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':		Years ago, when GunMaster45 worked on this page, I was the one who advised him that Gerard's Glock was likely a -17 rather than a -22. It's generally a safe assumption that any movie made in the early-90s will use a 9mm pistol rather than a .40-caliber equivalent (since most armorers hadn't figured out how to reliably adapt .40-caliber pistols at the time to fire blanks). However, now, I'm starting to doubt my own assumption: Bear in mind that on 2nd Generation Glocks, the easiest way to tell a 9mm version from a .40-caliber version is the presence of the second pin on the frame, which was added for retention of the locking block. (This difference doesn't exist on most 3rd Gen and all 4th Gen Glocks.) The locking block pin is clearly visible in some scenes of ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'':

	[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W]]		[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 17 2nd Generation - 9x19mm. Note absence of locking block pin behind takedown lever.]]
			[[Image:Glock 22.jpg\|thumb\|none\|300px\|Glock 22 2nd Generation - .40 S&W. Note that unlike the Glock 17 above, this weapon clearly has a second pin near the top of the frame behind the takedown lever.]]
	[[Image:USM-G22-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Royce's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]		[[Image:USM-G22-4.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Royce's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]
	[[Image:USM-G22-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Gerard's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]		[[Image:USM-G22-5.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Gerard's Glock from ''[[U.S. Marshals]]'']]