Talk:Survivors - Revision history

Greg-Z at 18:31, 11 March 2014

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	If anyone can help identify them, I'd be extremely grateful. [[User:Chef Brian\|''<font color="#082567">'''Chef Brian'''</font>'']] [[User talk:Chef Brian\|<sub><font color="#FF2400">Vrooom</font></sub>]] 21:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)		If anyone can help identify them, I'd be extremely grateful. [[User:Chef Brian\|''<font color="#082567">'''Chef Brian'''</font>'']] [[User talk:Chef Brian\|<sub><font color="#FF2400">Vrooom</font></sub>]] 21:50, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

	It's really hard to say who made the shotguns. They appear to have boxlock actions instead of the classic sidelock actions. They are hammerless instead of having the exposed hammers like you would see in a western. Other than that they could have been made by one of your country's shotgun makers. Such as Churchill, Greener, or Westley Richards. They could also be of Spanish, Belgian or Italian origins. Then of course there is always the possibility that they are American made shotguns. Side by Sides can be very difficult to idenity without being able to actually handle the model in question and look for the manufactuer's mark. [[Jcordell]]		It's really hard to say who made the shotguns. They appear to have boxlock actions instead of the classic sidelock actions. They are hammerless instead of having the exposed hammers like you would see in a western. Other than that they could have been made by one of your country's shotgun makers. Such as Churchill, Greener, or Westley Richards. They could also be of Spanish, Belgian or Italian origins. Then of course there is always the possibility that they are American made shotguns. Side by Sides can be very difficult to idenity without being able to actually handle the model in question and look for the manufactuer's mark. [[User:Jcordell]]

	:Thanks for narrowing the search somewhat. I think I have some more screenshots of the shotgun, stored somewhere in the deep recesses of my hard drive, although I doubt they'll help in furthering the identity of the shotguns... [[User:Chef Brian\|<span style="font-size:9pt;color: #F40;background:#169;border:2px solid #333">'''Chef Brian'''</span>]][[User talk:Chef Brian\|<sub style="font-size: 9pt;color:#169">''Hello!''</sub>]]		:Thanks for narrowing the search somewhat. I think I have some more screenshots of the shotgun, stored somewhere in the deep recesses of my hard drive, although I doubt they'll help in furthering the identity of the shotguns... [[User:Chef Brian\|<span style="font-size:9pt;color: #F40;background:#169;border:2px solid #333">'''Chef Brian'''</span>]][[User talk:Chef Brian\|<sub style="font-size: 9pt;color:#169">''Hello!''</sub>]]
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	::Okay Mister sensitive feelings! ;) I said I '''also''' confirm, i.e. I concur with your original guess. You seemed a little noncommital, so I was concurring and stating out right that it was '''definitely''' an 870. ;) MPM2008		::Okay Mister sensitive feelings! ;) I said I '''also''' confirm, i.e. I concur with your original guess. You seemed a little noncommital, so I was concurring and stating out right that it was '''definitely''' an 870. ;) MPM2008

	'''''I'm very sensitive.''''' LOL [[Jcordell]]		'''''I'm very sensitive.''''' LOL [[User:Jcordell]]

	I agree with you about England. I own a Webley Mk VI, three Lee-Enfields and I just recently purchased a Webley Mk IV in 38/200 that I got for a very resonable price. The local Cabelas has a Holland & Holland Royal Ejector in 12 gauge that I drool over whenever I'm in the store. The country used to have such a strong shooting tradition and great gun makers. [[Jcordell]]		I agree with you about England. I own a Webley Mk VI, three Lee-Enfields and I just recently purchased a Webley Mk IV in 38/200 that I got for a very resonable price. The local Cabelas has a Holland & Holland Royal Ejector in 12 gauge that I drool over whenever I'm in the store. The country used to have such a strong shooting tradition and great gun makers. [[User:Jcordell]]

	== United States Air Force/Navy Firearms ==		== United States Air Force/Navy Firearms ==

Jcordell at 20:38, 22 May 2010

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	I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)		I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

			== Canceled ==
			Well the BBC has axed this show so this is the end of this page. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 20:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Jcordell at 21:55, 9 May 2010

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	In order to own a shotgun with a capacity of more than three cartridges (or one modified to fire slugs), it needs to be held on a firearms certificate. These are much more tightly regulated as you need to provide the police with a good reason for owning one. Given that there is rarely a reason to have more than a three shot capacity (shotguns like this can easily be fitted with an extended magazine), they would be far less available (lots of people own these, and lots of people own guns similar to this in the UK, I suggest you do a bit of research before talking about this). They are also to large to be bothered smuggling on the black market (guns can be dismantled, there's no way you can assume that large guns can not be smuggled, they can and have been).		In order to own a shotgun with a capacity of more than three cartridges (or one modified to fire slugs), it needs to be held on a firearms certificate. These are much more tightly regulated as you need to provide the police with a good reason for owning one. Given that there is rarely a reason to have more than a three shot capacity (shotguns like this can easily be fitted with an extended magazine), they would be far less available (lots of people own these, and lots of people own guns similar to this in the UK, I suggest you do a bit of research before talking about this). They are also to large to be bothered smuggling on the black market (guns can be dismantled, there's no way you can assume that large guns can not be smuggled, they can and have been).

			== Organizing firearms by type ==

			I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

87.228.248.202: /* Season 2 handsguns */

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Season 2 handsguns

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	in series 2 ep 5 tom takes a tokarev tt33 (or possibly a norinco type 54) from one of the attempted roadside robbers, the man commits suice with a webley revolver either a mk iv or mk vi --[[Special:Contributions/86.156.240.14\|86.156.240.14]] 22:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC) - captain snikt		in series 2 ep 5 tom takes a tokarev tt33 (or possibly a norinco type 54) from one of the attempted roadside robbers, the man commits suice with a webley revolver either a mk iv or mk vi --[[Special:Contributions/86.156.240.14\|86.156.240.14]] 22:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC) - captain snikt
			That revolver is not a webley, looks nothing like a webley, more likely a smith and wesson


	== Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights ==		== Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights ==

Jcordell: /* BBC America */

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BBC America

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	== BBC America ==		== BBC America ==

	''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Doctor Who(New ~~Series~~)\|Doctor Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)		''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) [[Doctor Who (New series)\|Doctor Who]] marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

	Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)		Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Jcordell: /* BBC America */

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	''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Doctor Who(New Series)\|~~Dr.~~ Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)		''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Doctor Who(New Series)\|Doctor Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

	Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)		Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Jcordell: /* BBC America */

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	''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[~~Dr.~~ Who(~~new series~~)\|Dr. Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)		''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Doctor Who(New Series)\|Dr. Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

	Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)		Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Jcordell: /* BBC America */

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	''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Dr. Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)		''Survivors'' will be starting on BBC America 02/13/10. I don't know if they are only going to show season one or both season one and two. The ad dosen't say. I'll tape it and watch the episodes in a couple sittings I imagine. I'm still working my way through the 48 hour (estimate) ''[[Dr. Who(new series)\|Dr. Who]]'' marathon that BBCA showed for New Years.Regardless of England's gun laws I like alot of the programming. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 05:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

	Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)		Okay for those who care BBC America is going to air both season one and season two back to back. Just learned that today.--[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 17:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Jcordell: /* Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights */

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	== Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights ==		== Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights ==

	(This discussion really doesn't belong on the main page. Better suited for the discussion page. So I've taken the liberty of moving it. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 08:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC))		'''''(This discussion really doesn't belong on the main page. Better suited for the discussion page. So I've taken the liberty of moving it. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 08:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC))'''''

	Another firearms that is essentially banned in Great Britain (hardly...), this [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun\|Remington 870 pump action shotgun]] holds far more than the current legal limit of two 12 shells (in the U.K.) (this is wrong, there is no legal limit to the capacity of any firearm in the UK, magazines are not legislated in any way. You can only hold small capacity shotguns on a shotgun certificate, but on a firearm certificate a section 1 shotgun can have an unlimited capacity, as long as a suitable magazine can be constructed).Used by survivors in Samantha Willis's community. In the course of the third episode, the gun is fired twice, with the traditional clunk-click sound of the pump action being worked. It is a standard extended barrel 870 with deer gun (slug) sights on the barrel.		Another firearms that is essentially banned in Great Britain (hardly...), this [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun\|Remington 870 pump action shotgun]] holds far more than the current legal limit of two 12 shells (in the U.K.) (this is wrong, there is no legal limit to the capacity of any firearm in the UK, magazines are not legislated in any way. You can only hold small capacity shotguns on a shotgun certificate, but on a firearm certificate a section 1 shotgun can have an unlimited capacity, as long as a suitable magazine can be constructed).Used by survivors in Samantha Willis's community. In the course of the third episode, the gun is fired twice, with the traditional clunk-click sound of the pump action being worked. It is a standard extended barrel 870 with deer gun (slug) sights on the barrel.

Jcordell at 08:44, 19 February 2010

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	in series 2 ep 5 tom takes a tokarev tt33 (or possibly a norinco type 54) from one of the attempted roadside robbers, the man commits suice with a webley revolver either a mk iv or mk vi --[[Special:Contributions/86.156.240.14\|86.156.240.14]] 22:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC) - captain snikt		in series 2 ep 5 tom takes a tokarev tt33 (or possibly a norinco type 54) from one of the attempted roadside robbers, the man commits suice with a webley revolver either a mk iv or mk vi --[[Special:Contributions/86.156.240.14\|86.156.240.14]] 22:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC) - captain snikt



			== Remington 870 w/ extended magazine tube and rifle sights ==

			(This discussion really doesn't belong on the main page. Better suited for the discussion page. So I've taken the liberty of moving it. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] 08:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC))
			Another firearms that is essentially banned in Great Britain (hardly...), this [[Remington Model 870 Shotgun\|Remington 870 pump action shotgun]] holds far more than the current legal limit of two 12 shells (in the U.K.) (this is wrong, there is no legal limit to the capacity of any firearm in the UK, magazines are not legislated in any way. You can only hold small capacity shotguns on a shotgun certificate, but on a firearm certificate a section 1 shotgun can have an unlimited capacity, as long as a suitable magazine can be constructed).Used by survivors in Samantha Willis's community. In the course of the third episode, the gun is fired twice, with the traditional clunk-click sound of the pump action being worked. It is a standard extended barrel 870 with deer gun (slug) sights on the barrel.

			In the UK, you are allowed to hold a shotgun if you have a shotgun certificate but it has to be limited to a 3 cartridge capacity. There are a significant number of shotgun certificate holders and so getting your hands on a three shot semi-auto wouldn't be too hard in a post-flu environment.

			In order to own a shotgun with a capacity of more than three cartridges (or one modified to fire slugs), it needs to be held on a firearms certificate. These are much more tightly regulated as you need to provide the police with a good reason for owning one. Given that there is rarely a reason to have more than a three shot capacity (shotguns like this can easily be fitted with an extended magazine), they would be far less available (lots of people own these, and lots of people own guns similar to this in the UK, I suggest you do a bit of research before talking about this). They are also to large to be bothered smuggling on the black market (guns can be dismantled, there's no way you can assume that large guns can not be smuggled, they can and have been).