Talk:Smith & Wesson 59 - Revision history

Jcordell: /* Discussion */

2023-03-09T18:49:51Z

Discussion

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	:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]		:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]
	::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)		::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
			:The first-generation Model 59 would sometimes crack at that point in the slide. By beefing up the lower receiver the problem was basically eliminated though it could still happen occasionally even after the change was implemented. It really wasn't much of an issue with the first generation. I have read sources that state it would require thousands of rounds, often thousands of hot loads - such as the old NATO 9mm loads for sub-guns, fired before the lower frame would crack (if then), but it happened enough that Smith made the change. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell\|talk]]) 18:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

TheExplodingBarrel at 05:35, 20 February 2023

2023-02-20T05:35:35Z

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	[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]		[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]
	[[File:S&W 59 nickel.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59, nickel plated - 9x19mm]]		[[File:S&W 59 nickel.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59, nickel plated - 9x19mm]]
			==Airsoft Variants==
			[[File:DaisyM-59.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Daisy SoftAir Model 59]]

	=Discussion=		=Discussion=

Commando552 at 00:28, 7 April 2013

2013-04-07T00:28:22Z

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	=Additional Images=		=Additional Images=
	[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]		[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]
			[[File:S&W 59 nickel.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59, nickel plated - 9x19mm]]

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Commando552 at 12:22, 6 April 2013

2013-04-06T12:22:02Z

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			=Additional Images=
			[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg\|thumb\|400px\|none\|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]

			=Discussion=
	If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous\|Anonymous]]		If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous\|Anonymous]]
	:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]		:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]
			::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)

MoviePropMaster2008 at 22:21, 26 November 2010

2010-11-26T22:21:33Z

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	If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous\|Anonymous]]		If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous\|Anonymous]]
			:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]

Jcordell: Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 59 moved to Talk:Smith & Wesson 59 over redirect

2010-11-26T20:27:05Z

Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 59 moved to Talk:Smith & Wesson 59 over redirect

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Jcordell: Talk:Smith & Wesson 59 moved to Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 59

2010-11-26T17:23:22Z

Talk:Smith & Wesson 59 moved to Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 59

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Anonymous: New page: If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -~~~

2009-08-05T01:15:28Z

New page: If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -~~~

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If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]

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	:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]		:Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008\|MoviePropMaster2008]]
	::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)		::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --[[User:Commando552\|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552\|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
			:The first-generation Model 59 would sometimes crack at that point in the slide. By beefing up the lower receiver the problem was basically eliminated though it could still happen occasionally even after the change was implemented. It really wasn't much of an issue with the first generation. I have read sources that state it would require thousands of rounds, often thousands of hot loads - such as the old NATO 9mm loads for sub-guns, fired before the lower frame would crack (if then), but it happened enough that Smith made the change. --[[User:Jcordell\|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell\|talk]]) 18:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)