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Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifles */

2021-09-02T11:31:33Z

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	::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			:::Yes, it's possible. I thought that the magazine is more angular but on a second sight, maybe it's a Mosin magazine. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 11:02, 2 September 2021

2021-09-02T11:02:47Z

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	: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifles */

2021-09-02T09:31:41Z

Unidentified rifles

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	--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 09:05, 2 September 2021

2021-09-02T09:05:29Z

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	[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]		[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]
	--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifles */

2021-09-02T08:32:26Z

Unidentified rifles

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	I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	:Sure, this might be helpful.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:49, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		:Sure, this might be helpful.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:49, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			Let's see what can be seen now:
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-KarAZ4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Maxim3-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The rifle at the bottom right seems to have Mosin magazine but the top barrel band is different... or maybe not, it's only due to the angle of view.]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle3-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]
			--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 07:49, 2 September 2021

2021-09-02T07:49:40Z

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	[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]		[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
	I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			:Sure, this might be helpful.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:49, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

Greg-Z: /* Unidentified rifles */

2021-09-02T07:42:52Z

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	The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1.jpg seems to be a Mosin 91, judging by the shape of the magazine. Other rifles in this section make me think about Berthier though I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2021 (EDT)		The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1.jpg seems to be a Mosin 91, judging by the shape of the magazine. Other rifles in this section make me think about Berthier though I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2021 (EDT)
	: Thank you! I found a promotional picture showing a very slightly better view of one unknown rifle, maybe this will help. The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5.jpg (lower half in the center) reminds me of a Gewehr 88 judging by the rear part and the rear sight but it has a different barrel and muzzle.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:17, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		: Thank you! I found a promotional picture showing a very slightly better view of one unknown rifle, maybe this will help. The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5.jpg (lower half in the center) reminds me of a Gewehr 88 judging by the rear part and the rear sight but it has a different barrel and muzzle.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:17, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			::I agree, the rifle of Rifle5 is very likely a G88. As for me, the front section of the barrel matches G88, it's thick enough. I processed the image a little:
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

HighPhigh at 07:17, 2 September 2021

2021-09-02T07:17:40Z

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	== Unidentified rifles ==		== Unidentified rifles ==
	The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1.jpg seems to be a Mosin 91, judging by the shape of the magazine. Other rifles in this section make me think about Berthier though I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2021 (EDT)		The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1.jpg seems to be a Mosin 91, judging by the shape of the magazine. Other rifles in this section make me think about Berthier though I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2021 (EDT)
			: Thank you! I found a promotional picture showing a very slightly better view of one unknown rifle, maybe this will help. The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle5.jpg (lower half in the center) reminds me of a Gewehr 88 judging by the rear part and the rear sight but it has a different barrel and muzzle.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:17, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

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== Unidentified rifles ==
The rifle on ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1.jpg seems to be a Mosin 91, judging by the shape of the magazine. Other rifles in this section make me think about Berthier though I'm not sure. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:16, 1 September 2021 (EDT)

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	::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			:::Yes, it's possible. I thought that the magazine is more angular but on a second sight, maybe it's a Mosin magazine. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 07:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

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	: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			:: I agree to that, I'll list them as Mosins. One more thing, my first guess about the Gew. 88 may now be wrong, it could also be a US Mosin, what do you think?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 07:02, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

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	--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			::I'll make a cautious guess that these Mosins are US manufactured (Remington and Westinghouse) Russian contract rifles that were sold to private citizens. Many of these rifles were rechambered for .30-06 what could lead to differences in appearance. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 05:31, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

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	[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]		[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]
	--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			: Also the grasping groove looks like a Mosin Nagant, so could we say these are modified Mosins?--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 05:05, 2 September 2021 (EDT)

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	I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		I guess that the G88 magazine can be seen. BTW, I can try to enhance other screenshots if it would be useful for identification. --[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 03:42, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
	:Sure, this might be helpful.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:49, 2 September 2021 (EDT)		:Sure, this might be helpful.--[[User:HighPhigh\|HighPhigh]] ([[User talk:HighPhigh\|talk]]) 03:49, 2 September 2021 (EDT)
			Let's see what can be seen now:
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-KarAZ4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Maxim3-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|The rifle at the bottom right seems to have Mosin magazine but the top barrel band is different... or maybe not, it's only due to the angle of view.]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle1-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle3-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|]]
			[[File:ShanghaiExpress-Rifle4-Edit.jpg\|thumb\|none\|500px\|At the left - seemingly Mosin 91 magazine, and againt the seemingly different top barrel band.]]
			--[[User:Greg-Z\|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z\|talk]]) 04:32, 2 September 2021 (EDT)