Talk:S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl - Revision history

Ominae at 15:18, 13 July 2023

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	==AK-74==		==AK-74==
	An icon of an [[AK-74]] can be found in the game files; this was used as an icon for the [[AKS-74]] in some early builds of the game.		An icon of an [[AK-74]] can be found in the game files; this was used as an icon for the [[AKS-74]] in some early builds of the game.
	[[File:AK-74(plum).jpg\|thumb\|none\|~~400px~~\|AK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]
			[[File:AK-74 with plum furniture.jpg\|thumb\|none\|450px\|AK-74 with plum furniture - 5.45x39mm]]

	==AKS-74==		==AKS-74==

TheExplodingBarrel at 02:45, 11 June 2021

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			=Cut Weapons=
			These weapons appear within the game code or in prerelease versions of the game, but do not appear in the final unmodified game; some weapons are fully functional, and may be accessed through modification of the game, and some may be little more than an inventory icon.
			==9K32 Strela-2==
			An icon for a [[9K32 Strela-2]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:800px-SA-7.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|9K32 Strela-2 - 72mm]]

			==AK-74==
			An icon of an [[AK-74]] can be found in the game files; this was used as an icon for the [[AKS-74]] in some early builds of the game.
			[[File:AK-74(plum).jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]

			==AKS-74==
			An icon of an [[AKS-74]] rather oddly equipped with an [[AK-47]] magazine can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Aks-74.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|AKS-74 - 5.45x39mm]]

			==Browning Hi-Power Mark III==
			Another weapon which was apparently cut at the last minute for unknown reasons, the [[Browning Hi-Power Mark III]] is in the game, fully functioning, but isn't found anywhere and so can't be used. Activating the weapon requires modification of the game to add it to trader inventories so it can be purchased. It appears in all the ''S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'' games as the "HPSS-1m".
			[[file:HiPowerMk3.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl Browning HP holding.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The Browning Hi-Power in first person.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl Browning HP aim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Aiming.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl Browning HP reloading 1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The Hi-Power during a partial reload.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl Browning HP reloading 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Empty reloading animation.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl Browning HP world.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Third-person view of the pistol.]]

			==FN P90==
			A model and icon for an [[FN P90]] can be found in the game files. This weapon was planned to be included in ''Clear Sky'', but was never implemented.
			[[File:FNP90Side.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|FN P90 - 5.7x28mm]]

			==GM-94==
			An icon of a [[GM-94]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Gm94.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|GM-94 - 43x30mm]]

			==GSh-18==
			An icon and texture sheet (but no model) for a [[GSh-18]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Gsh18-l.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|GSh-18 - 9x19mm Parabellum]]

			==PK==
			A model and code for a [[PK]] mounted on a rather awkward-looking tripod can be found in the game files; an icon for a handheld PK can also be found. Unlike ''Clear Sky'''s icon (in which the weapon would be formally introduced), this icon has a loose belt rather than a belt box.
			[[File:Pk_machine_gun.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|PK - 7.62x54mmR]]

			==RGO==
			An icon of an [[RGO]] grenade can be found in the game files.
			[[File:RGO.jpg\|thumb\|none\|250px\|RGO hand grenade]]

			==RPK-74==
			An icon for an [[RPK-74]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Soviet_RPK-74.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|RPK-74 - 5.45x39mm]]

			==Stechkin APS==
			An icon of a [[Stechkin APS]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Pistol_Russian_Stechkin_9x18mm_Makarov_machine_pistol_2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|Stechkin APS - 9x18mm Makarov]]

			==TOZ-34==
			The [[TOZ-34]], an over and under hunting shotgun, was featured in some pre-release media, but the weapon doesn't actually appear anywhere in the single player game despite existing, fully functional, in the game's files. Many game modifications add it to trader inventories so it can be bought. It functions much like the sawed-off TOZ-66, but is considerably more accurate; the unmodified stats also make it incredibly powerful, far more so than the other shotguns. The TOZ-34 is restored in ''Clear Sky'' and ''Call of Pripyat'' under the names "Hunting rifle" and "Hunting shotgun", appearing as a common weapon among rookie stalkers and bandits; in these games the damage has been reduced to a more sensible level.
			[[file:TOZ-34.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|none\|TOZ-34 - 12 gauge]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl TOZ-34 holding.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The TOZ-34 in idle.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl TOZ-34 aim.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Aiming.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl TOZ-34 reloading 1.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Ejecting a shell in the non-empty reload.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl TOZ-34 reloading 2.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|Inserting in some shells in the empty reload.]]
			[[file:STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl TOZ-34 world.jpg\|thumb\|none\|600px\|The TOZ-34 on the ground.]]

			==TOZ-66==
			An icon for a full-length [[TOZ-66]] can be found in the game files; this weapon was actually available for use in some prerelease builds of the game. Like the P90, it was planned to be in ''Clear Sky'' but never made it.
			[[File:TOZ-66.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|TOZ-66 - 12 gauge]]

			==VSK-94==
			An icon for a [[VSK-94]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:VSK94.jpg\|thumb\|none\|400px\|VSK-94 - 9x39mm]]

			==Zarya-2==
			An icon of a [[Zarya-2 stun grenade]] can be found in the game files.
			[[File:Zarya-2_grenade.jpg\|thumb\|none\|250px\|Zarya-2 stun grenade]]

			=Discussion=
	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==

TheExplodingBarrel: /* Unused weapons icons */

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Unused weapons icons

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	== Unused weapons icons ==		== Unused weapons icons ==

	[https://tcrf.net/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl The Cutting Room Floor] has rips of some unused models for guns that don't appear in the game, as well as HUD icons for weapons cut from the game. Should be worth a mention. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 21:02, 23 April 2021 (EDT)		[https://tcrf.net/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl The Cutting Room Floor] has rips of some unused models for guns that don't appear in the game, as well as HUD icons for weapons cut from the game. Should be worth a mention. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 21:02, 23 April 2021 (EDT)
			:I feel like these would probably be more appropriate as a talk page listing (since they don't actually appear in-game in any usable form) but yeah, they should. [[User:TheExplodingBarrel\|TheExplodingBarrel]] ([[User talk:TheExplodingBarrel\|talk]]) 08:07, 24 April 2021 (EDT)

VladVladson: /* Unused weapons icons */ new section

2021-04-24T01:02:45Z

Unused weapons icons: new section

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	[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek The newest preview] is mostly a look around various weapon models. Enough material to make a pre-release page. if anyone wants to. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:43, 26 March 2021 (EDT)		[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek The newest preview] is mostly a look around various weapon models. Enough material to make a pre-release page. if anyone wants to. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:43, 26 March 2021 (EDT)
	:Wow, Carmel... Suddenly... [[User:Pustelga7\|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7\|talk]]) 02:35, 27 March 2021 (EDT)		:Wow, Carmel... Suddenly... [[User:Pustelga7\|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7\|talk]]) 02:35, 27 March 2021 (EDT)

			== Unused weapons icons ==

			[https://tcrf.net/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Shadow_of_Chernobyl The Cutting Room Floor] has rips of some unused models for guns that don't appear in the game, as well as HUD icons for weapons cut from the game. Should be worth a mention. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 21:02, 23 April 2021 (EDT)

Pustelga7: /* STALKER 2 */

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STALKER 2

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	[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek The newest preview] is mostly a look around various weapon models. Enough material to make a pre-release page. if anyone wants to. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:43, 26 March 2021 (EDT)		[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek The newest preview] is mostly a look around various weapon models. Enough material to make a pre-release page. if anyone wants to. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:43, 26 March 2021 (EDT)
			:Wow, Carmel... Suddenly... [[User:Pustelga7\|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7\|talk]]) 02:35, 27 March 2021 (EDT)

VladVladson: /* STALKER 2 */ new section

2021-03-26T19:43:57Z

STALKER 2: new section

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	I've heard the reason it's weird in this game is because it applies the NPC chance to hit mechanic to shots fired by the player; so if a shot hits, the game then rolls an invisible dice to see if it hits. This is also why mods for accurising the guns make it so the enemies almost never miss. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 18:43, 14 December 2014 (EST)		I've heard the reason it's weird in this game is because it applies the NPC chance to hit mechanic to shots fired by the player; so if a shot hits, the game then rolls an invisible dice to see if it hits. This is also why mods for accurising the guns make it so the enemies almost never miss. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 18:43, 14 December 2014 (EST)

			== STALKER 2 ==

			[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdJgHlTUYek The newest preview] is mostly a look around various weapon models. Enough material to make a pre-release page. if anyone wants to. --[[User:VladVladson\|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson\|talk]]) 15:43, 26 March 2021 (EDT)

Evil Tim: /* Ballistics model */ new section

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Ballistics model: new section

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	:They could always "civilianize" it, kind of like how the 5.7x28mm ammunition sold to civilians isn't the same kind used by military/mercenary units, and lacks the original's armour-piercing qualities. --[[User:Mazryonh\|Mazryonh]] 13:15, 28 January 2012 (CST)		:They could always "civilianize" it, kind of like how the 5.7x28mm ammunition sold to civilians isn't the same kind used by military/mercenary units, and lacks the original's armour-piercing qualities. --[[User:Mazryonh\|Mazryonh]] 13:15, 28 January 2012 (CST)

			== Ballistics model ==

			I've heard the reason it's weird in this game is because it applies the NPC chance to hit mechanic to shots fired by the player; so if a shot hits, the game then rolls an invisible dice to see if it hits. This is also why mods for accurising the guns make it so the enemies almost never miss. [[User:Evil Tim\|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim\|talk]]) 18:43, 14 December 2014 (EST)

12BotG: /* Arsenal */

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Arsenal

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	:In arsenal they don't. Some of the OL stuff does, like the Bizon which is still mirrored. But Arsenal doesn't. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged\|ManiacallyChallenged]]		:In arsenal they don't. Some of the OL stuff does, like the Bizon which is still mirrored. But Arsenal doesn't. --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged\|ManiacallyChallenged]]
	:Yes, there is a reason: since the weapons are wielded right handed the brass thus can be seen being ejected. It's simply for the looks and more action feeling. --[[User:Oliphaunt\|Oliphaunt]] 16:54, 15 September 2011 (CDT)		:Yes, there is a reason: since the weapons are wielded right handed the brass thus can be seen being ejected. It's simply for the looks and more action feeling. --[[User:Oliphaunt\|Oliphaunt]] 16:54, 15 September 2011 (CDT)
			:Also to avoid paying royalties to the weapon manufacturers. --[[User:12BotG\|12BotG]] ([[User talk:12BotG\|talk]]) 04:51, 4 February 2013 (EST)


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	:L.U.R.K. was here, Arsenal's for arses.-protoAuthor 20:21, 23 October 2011 (CDT)		:L.U.R.K. was here, Arsenal's for arses.-protoAuthor 20:21, 23 October 2011 (CDT)

			:Arsenal mod is being modified continuously by other supermods such as Oblivion lost 2010/2012 for SHoC and Misery for CoP, so would need compiling all the different weapons used for each of these mods.Better to wait for OL 2012 and Misery 2.0 before starting the mod page. --[[User:12BotG\|12BotG]] ([[User talk:12BotG\|talk]]) 04:51, 4 February 2013 (EST)

	==S.T.A.L.K.E.R clear sky and Call of pripyat new weapons ==		==S.T.A.L.K.E.R clear sky and Call of pripyat new weapons ==

Mazryonh: /* Different ammunition */

2012-01-28T19:15:19Z

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	::I doubt the officials would be happy about the armor-piercing 9x39mm ammunition being common among the civilian population ;) --[[User:Masterius\|Masterius]] 08:53, 28 January 2012 (CST)		::I doubt the officials would be happy about the armor-piercing 9x39mm ammunition being common among the civilian population ;) --[[User:Masterius\|Masterius]] 08:53, 28 January 2012 (CST)

			:They could always "civilianize" it, kind of like how the 5.7x28mm ammunition sold to civilians isn't the same kind used by military/mercenary units, and lacks the original's armour-piercing qualities. --[[User:Mazryonh\|Mazryonh]] 13:15, 28 January 2012 (CST)

Masterius: /* Different ammunition */

2012-01-28T14:53:59Z

Different ammunition

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	:The Soviets made their 9x18mm ammunition actually 9.2mm in diameter, so as to make it incompatible with NATO's 9x19mm firearms. Thus, you wouldn't be able to convert one to the other without some involved work. A .40 S&W firearm can fire .357 SIG with just a barrel change, and a 10mm Auto firearm can fire both of those with just a barrel change because the 10mm Auto was the parent cartridge for the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG. Due to its larger diameter than 5.45x39mm or 7.62x39mm rounds, 9x39mm has somewhat better stopping power than either of the previous, but you'd have to perform tests on ballistic gelatin or the like to find out just how much better. It was also optimized for subsonic performance with enhanced armour-penetration capabilities, so it's got a rather short effective range. Too bad 9x39mm ammunition is quite rare outside of the Russian Special Forces community. --[[User:Mazryonh\|Mazryonh]] 17:20, 8 January 2012 (CST)		:The Soviets made their 9x18mm ammunition actually 9.2mm in diameter, so as to make it incompatible with NATO's 9x19mm firearms. Thus, you wouldn't be able to convert one to the other without some involved work. A .40 S&W firearm can fire .357 SIG with just a barrel change, and a 10mm Auto firearm can fire both of those with just a barrel change because the 10mm Auto was the parent cartridge for the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG. Due to its larger diameter than 5.45x39mm or 7.62x39mm rounds, 9x39mm has somewhat better stopping power than either of the previous, but you'd have to perform tests on ballistic gelatin or the like to find out just how much better. It was also optimized for subsonic performance with enhanced armour-penetration capabilities, so it's got a rather short effective range. Too bad 9x39mm ammunition is quite rare outside of the Russian Special Forces community. --[[User:Mazryonh\|Mazryonh]] 17:20, 8 January 2012 (CST)

			::I doubt the officials would be happy about the armor-piercing 9x39mm ammunition being common among the civilian population ;) --[[User:Masterius\|Masterius]] 08:53, 28 January 2012 (CST)